Do you host all your sites together?

I wont suggest you to host them on same IP. Site hosting on same IP means...One of them gets caught for some thing bad..you are bound to see the bad effect on others too!

On that ip there are tens of other sites which are not yours, what if something bad caught them ? I don't think google will penalize all the sites on that ip, this does not make sense otherwise nobody is going to use shared hosting.
 
It's just a hassle to separate everything. I host them all together and I've them added into one WMT account. Never had any problem.
 
if the whois info and niche are diff.. then sure.. go ahead.. just don't interlink them.

Niches are obviously different, but not the whois. It's not something that can be easily sorted. I was thinking of using pen names for whois details but I don't know how that would work.
 
Just use private registration and you don't have to fake the reg info.
 
I always host any money site I have on a different IP.
 
Just use private registration and you don't have to fake the reg info.

I know, it's just that some seem to recommend to use different details due to:

Google is a domain registrar and knows your whois (even if privacy is used) plus it uses many different ways to catch all of your sites. Using different hosting companies help you diverse the risk.
 
Sound like it would be good measure to slightly mispell your name and address now and again.
 
That's all speculation...nobody has presented proof one way or the other. I have multiple sites on the first page for some high comp keywords all using private reg. I don't know if G can see through it but if they can then they're not taking action.
 
I think it could be a problem if there are other things that link your accounts - eg the same adsense code, the same affiliate id, similar niche, links from similar sites. OR it could be that if one of your sites gets hit because of a big update, others get affected too
 
I use incapcula dot com instead multiples IPs.

My site now uses Incapsula's IPs. Will this affect my SEO?

No, it won?t.

For years there?ve been rumors about the negative effect of hosting several websites on the same IP. Although, in the past, an under-populated IP may be held some ?extra? SEO value, today this is not the case, partly because of IPv4 IP address shortage which makes the whole idea simple unfeasible .

Google officially addressed this rumor on a several different occasions. Here are some references:

Matt Cutts talks about IP related SEO myths

?I wouldn?t worry about being on the same IP address and I definitely wouldn?t worry about being on the same server that is something what everyone does??
Matt Cutts ? Head of Google WebSpam Team

CDN and SEO discussed on Google Official Product forum

?We generally do not treat sites hosted on CDNs any differently?
Google Official Representative

This alone makes me feel as if the service is pretty much useless. Though on the other hand I can see benefits.

Then again with the pricing structure they have, there are cheaper options. At $9 per website per month you're better of getting a dedicated IP.

They've got a free plan but 50GB of bandwidth can only take you as far.
 
I wouldn't worry about as long as your sites don't link together, and they arn't shitty sites, cutts confirms this in a video about addon domains. Plus hosting companies don't bother when they host your website, if your buying "i am clueless " hosting package.
 
I used to have like 10 hostings to different companies because I have some websites with small traffic and some with big traffic, but having 10 hostings can be a pain in the ass. Now I have a dedicate server for the bigger ones and for the smaller ones I used 2 hostings until, I hope, they will grow.
 
I use multiple virtual accounts for money sites (about 20). Apart from any issues about keeping the sites separate which may or may not be true, it's for the simple reason that if your hosting goes down for your money sites, your income immediately drops to zero until your hosting comes back up. Therefore if one hosting provider goes down, has a routing issue etc., you want your sites on other providers to still be up and generating income.

I read a post on another forum years ago (Alex on the old ARS board) where he suggested that you never have more than 10% of your eggs in one basket - i.e. at least 10 hosting accounts, 10 good affiliate programs etc. so if one thing fucks up you're never going to lose more than 10% of your income. Good advice to follow.
 
I use multiple virtual accounts for money sites (about 20). Apart from any issues about keeping the sites separate which may or may not be true, it's for the simple reason that if your hosting goes down for your money sites, your income immediately drops to zero until your hosting comes back up. Therefore if one hosting provider goes down, has a routing issue etc., you want your sites on other providers to still be up and generating income.

I read a post on another forum years ago (Alex on the old ARS board) where he suggested that you never have more than 10% of your eggs in one basket - i.e. at least 10 hosting accounts, 10 good affiliate programs etc. so if one thing fucks up you're never going to lose more than 10% of your income. Good advice to follow.

The hosting accounts for that reason is an over kill. Depending on the amount of sites you have and the resource usage, a few reseller or VPS accounts would be enough IMO. If you have quality hosting, and I mean quality from someone reputable then any sort of downtime will be very unlikely. I've got two reseller accounts on two different servers, same company, and over the past year that I've been with them, I don't remember there being any downtime.
 
most of my sites are on hostgator. got one on godaddy. use namecheap to register domains.
 
The hosting accounts for that reason is an over kill. Depending on the amount of sites you have and the resource usage, a few reseller or VPS accounts would be enough IMO. If you have quality hosting, and I mean quality from someone reputable then any sort of downtime will be very unlikely. I've got two reseller accounts on two different servers, same company, and over the past year that I've been with them, I don't remember there being any downtime.

That entirely depends...

I would never host with a company that wasn't quality, but accidents, runaway scripts, kernel updates etc. happen, and in any case hosting companies can't control what happens with their upstream providers. All hosting companies have downtime at some point, even if it is just a few minutes here and there, which is why you will only ever see claims of 99.9xx% uptime in the SLAs, never 100%.

I have had people seriously come gunning for my sites because of blackhat link generation and two or even five hosting accounts would just not be robust enough. The more blackhat you go, the more robust, diverse and anonymous your network has to be. I am not just hedging against downtime on the part of the hosting provider - I'm primarily hedging against domains and hosting accounts getting canned because of complaints.

$200 a month for virtual hosting is a drop in the bucket (less than 0.5% of revenue) compared to the monthly income provided by those sites. Dedicated or VPS hosting wouldn't be appropriate because although a lot of traffic goes through those sites, they are designed and served very efficiently and resource usage is very low, plus I don't want to manage the hosting.

If you want to do SEO (whether white or black) robustly then your network should be like a bunch of terrorist cells - they all operate independently and if one goes down, the rest can carry on without interruption.
 
$200 a month for virtual hosting is a drop in the bucket (less than 0.5% of revenue) compared to the monthly income provided by those sites. Dedicated or VPS hosting wouldn't be appropriate because although a lot of traffic goes through those sites, they are designed and served very efficiently and resource usage is very low, plus I don't want to manage the hosting.

Everything you've mentioned I can totally agree with. Just like you said, it depends. Though looking at your figures, what can I say, that's a completely different matter. On the other hand, once again it depends but a VPS can be very appropriate depending on how you use it. Appropriateness is very subjective in this case because there are many factors involved. By your statement I can only imagine that you've never really had any real experience with a VPS, it's not like it's any different than having a cPanel/WHM hosting account. There are managed solutions which wouldn't rip a hole in your pocket. It's much easier to work with 5 different yet well setup VPS's then it is with 50 different hosting accounts. There are many solutions there, ever heard of mirroring or redundant hosting?

It obviously all depends on what you're doing. I would most definitely not host any black hat sites on the same account as my white hat sites.
 
There are managed solutions which wouldn't rip a hole in your pocket. It's much easier to work with 5 different yet well setup VPS's then it is with 50 different hosting accounts. There are many solutions there, ever heard of mirroring or redundant hosting?

It doesn't have to be difficult to manage. I just have to upload my framework, possibly update some paths in the single config file, and away I go; uploads are all done via a simple php wrapper script (around the ncftpput unix command) so user / pass / ftp host / ftp path info is all stored in a text file - so using different hosts is completely transparent and it's all braindead simple and doesn't require me to remember anything or constantly go looking stuff up. All of my sites are also stored on my main dedi (which doesn't serve any sites, it's for running my blackhat scripts) and so can easily be uploaded to different hosting accounts at data centre speeds; then all I have to do is switch the DNS over, and I have imacros to do that at all my registrars (plus a simple php script to generate the imacros that fills in the domain names and new DNS info). Emails to catchall email domains are all forwarded to a single mailbox at the provider where I host all my email; admin or contact emails for all domains are forwarded to another account, so I only have to check a couple of mailboxes. Apache logs are downloaded and collated automagically every day by my main dedi for creating traffic reports; the same happens every day for my click counter, so keeping an eye on the health of the network isn't too difficult.

I'm not a huge fan of VPSs because they tend to be a bit underwhelming in terms of specs compared to even a shitty dedi; and also although you might be sandboxed to some extent from other users in terms of cpu / memory / disk usage (disk not so much if someone is running disk heavy scripts), if the traffic is still going through a single network card on the machine then to some extent you're still at the mercy of DDOS, mail bombs, other people's traffic spikes etc. Dedicated prices have come down so much that you can get a cheap dedi for not much more than the cost of a VPS...

Anyway I have been using some variant of this system since before VPSs were a thing (i.e. before virtualization became robust and efficient enough to be offered commercially) so it's what I'm used to and it works fine, but YMMV. Yes there are some issues you have to work around and debateably a cost advantage to using fewer hosts. But it doesn't matter if it's 5 virtuals, 5 VPSs or 5 dedis - if you're pushing some volume then IMHO five points of failure is just not enough in case someone comes after you seriously for your blackhat bidness.

In case anyone is interested, I use fake whois info for all my domains (but it still looks real, e.g. the addresses all exist, the phone numbers have the right area code and format etc.). I use whois protection as well if it's free but otherwise I don't bother. I don't worry about IPs, if you're using enough hosts then you'll get a mix of unique and shared IPs by default, depending on what each host offers.
 
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