Getwhatchuwant
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Scritty, Expertpeon and Mad Octopus in 1 thread...AWESOME! Thanks for the breakdown and by all means keep talking! 
Ranking Factors In Google October 2012
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Stop words are common words such as "a", "the", "and", etc. They're called "stop" words because it was or still is believed that search engines stop crawling your headings or titles when they encounter them. This only applies to titles and headings, not to the content of your pages where you should be writing naturally. (You must have stop words when writing naturally or it would sound really dumb.)
The OP is saying that you should include these common words in the anchor text of both your internal and external backlinks. This indicates to google that "everything's fine here...just naturally getting links big guy..."
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Lalalaenhund
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This is why I come here, great post.
Scritty
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Thanks,Scritty, Expertpeon and Mad Octopus in 1 thread...AWESOME! Thanks for the breakdown and by all means keep talking!
I've been thinking about what is missing. For me the 3 biggies are domain age, pr and "size" . Does anyone else have any other K.P.I that they think might be important for January's update?
trevorhoang
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alright, i got dissy while scrolling down to see how long it is. gunna get a coffee and dive right in to this Behemoth!
profitpioneers
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EPIC post man! Seriously, thanks for this in-depth analysis.
Expertpeon
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I've written in the past about spinning as well, with you and we've had this discussion. Your resources in this regard far outstrip my own (in generating this content using software, since you've designed it yourself).
I will comment on something however.
I generally generate master articles of sorts, that have 60 sentences (written specifically) for each of 5 paragraphs (300 total) grouped into 6 groups/paragraph. Each sentence can come before or after another, and make sense. The articles are then generated paragraph by paragraph, 3 sentences/paragraph, with all permutative possibilities and hand spun synonyms which make sense. The results are unique (all unique sentences) with extremely good grammar as the end result. If you're talking about uniqueness percentages, after 10s of thousands of uses of this article, a random n-gram of >7 will not generally show up in Google beyond a single instance. I'm unsure if this actually has a workable limitation or not, at least if it has a meaningful one for real use. I'm thinking that google would struggle majorly with identifying such a thing as spun.
I use these for tier 1, and they are quite time consuming to produce (though I do at least 100k articles out of them). Articles are usually around 10mb in text files when done up this way.
I've tried such articles for tier 1 and another such article for tier 2 and achieve absolutely identical results (and perhaps worse when it comes to updates etc, though who knows since google spit out 3 at once) than when I use mismashed and auto-spun sentences as you describe that are only moderately readable for tier 2. As such, I've abandoned this for tier 2 work and am back to using 1 hour spun content rather than 15 hours or more of work.
I do some funky things with tier 2 nowadays, such as linkwheeling at least 50,000 web 2.0s/articles etc with each other and with links to tier 1, then injecting thousands and thousands of blog network posts as tier 3 etc.
I haven't seen any indication that even n-gram issues on tier 1 actually affects much unless it's literally duplicated... so this method is likely overkill
Considering how well footer farms and crap are doing again, makes you wonder what the point of all this even is.
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madoctopus
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@Expertpeon
I do something similar too. I build ultra-spun articles and spin them thousands of times. I am calculating using 3-grams not 7-grams so mine are even more complex. I use them for either support sites or I make several seeds and use a madlib approach where I have placeholder variables and generate articles for tens of thousands of related keywords from one seed article. I don't find it overkill though because first it is cheap to produce considering the number of articles generated and it covers my ass against a manual inspection, not to mention they convert better.
I do something similar too. I build ultra-spun articles and spin them thousands of times. I am calculating using 3-grams not 7-grams so mine are even more complex. I use them for either support sites or I make several seeds and use a madlib approach where I have placeholder variables and generate articles for tens of thousands of related keywords from one seed article. I don't find it overkill though because first it is cheap to produce considering the number of articles generated and it covers my ass against a manual inspection, not to mention they convert better.
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It looks like the trend is for "authority" and usability for quite some time. So I would think that some kind of signals that support this trend will be used or if they are already in use, will be tweaked. An example of a signal that support authority is that there are brand searches. Also a combination check of the number of referrals (links) to estimated traffic from other indicators (alexa, chrome...).
tedchang8592
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Expecting scritty's seo blueprint.
Scritty
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i already blog everything I find on my seo site.
the cupboard is bare for blue prints. But it's a thought.
radarsurge
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Great share Scritty. Things are definitely changing, glad to see someone is staying on top of it :rofl:
Scritty
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No it's not imperative. I don't know whether it is on a sliding sclae either (so 49 is ok, 60 is worse etc etc) but any figure below 48 seems to offer no disadvantage at all.
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