Be aware of MUGSHOTS!
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Ok second email.
Like I ain't got better things to be doing at 3.25 in the morning.
No partiality.
Like I ain't got better things to be doing at 3.25 in the morning.
No partiality.
These Popcorn .gifs are better then the thread.I know you think this is awesome but I seriously am traveling. Overdestined is the kid's name I worked with. I can't access the Forum from the hotel's computer. Blocks me.
5:12 PM overdestined: Hey you here? I have a question
me: Abt to be leaving for flight, what's up?
5:13 PM overdestined: Not much, and I hope you have a good time by the way (happy birthday) whats the max that can be sent by paypal at a time?
All the limits I looked up varied.
5:14 PM me: Its not my bday
Was a friends
overdestined:Tomorrows not your birthday?
me: I just bought trip
overdestined: I was going by facebook. lol
me: lol
Ohhh my partner Steve's
We all are various
5:15 PM overdestined: Makes sense =P
Do you think that paycheck will be here tonight?
Kind of hoping to get my fiancee a little gift tonight and bring it to her
me: Its not me dealing with finances
5:16 PM overdestined: Ah.
Damnnn my head hurts so bad, lmao.
Still numbed up
5:17 PM me: hope you feel better
overdestined: Thanks man, hope you have a great time
Really appreciate it
7 minutes
5:25 PM me: No worries
5:26 PM overdestined: Hey, whats your #? o.o
me: Why?
overdestined: Just curious
me: I don't give it out due to prank calls
5:28 PM Marketers have pranked me many a times
overdestined:
me: If we become serious business partners, you'
ll get my number
5:31 PM Pretty private guy
5:34 PM overdestined: Dude, please just admit this is a sham. I've known it was for awhile but I stayed hopeful but it's just obvious. The number posted on your facebook I texted, and got "some lady named kay" but the phone is registered to you. I'm just going to go ahead and give up hope that I'm ever going to get payed, I just don't want to get in to anything. I just don't want to get lied to anymore. But best of luck to you whatever you do. And there's no record of a military police officer by the name of Joe Anderson, I asked my recruiter if he could tell me a little bit because I was curious. I just don't really care anymore. I'm not gonna sob story, or anything like that. I'm done. But can you please just admit it so I can know and move on? Because I'm not the only one who thinks so, I'm not the only one who realizes it, and I'm not the only one who's gonna find out. There's bits and pieces missing. If I was ever going to get payed I would've been contracted, so now I have no way of legally getting my pay. And a corporate company would never let a jarhead or a random person work for their company, especially not manage their sales team. And then there's a guy who mentioned to me and showed me a conversation about asking him for a $5000 investment? Why would you need an investment if you've got so much money? None of it adds up. I'm done being worried about being skeptical I just want the truth
me:
5:35 PM You offered me that you wanted to prove your salt
My name is Joe Anderson
5:36 PM Yet I don't tell ppl my first name
My middle name is Joseph
lol
I agreed
To help you
prove yourself
You went and told ppl that I was scamming you
I STILL
5:37 PM even went against my partner company to help you
RepATX is still budding and protected by the parent company
overdestined: Yeah but what have I got so far Joe? I mean you said I'd be paid monday but I wasn't and you said that you don't handle it, but yet you're the CFO?
I'm confused
None of it really makes sense to me
me: Several ppl told me to not to help you
5:38 PM My name is on the bank docs but seven others handle finances
So they are a bit late
They don't personally want to send 1500 over PP's circuit
5:39 PM What 17 y/o doesn't have an account
That makes no sense
I am in constant contact
This is the internet
Luckily
I have been wise to not give my personal info out
overdestined: I know but constant contact doesn't mean much. Anyone can run things for awhile. It's smart not to give your personal info out but a phone number?
me: Want to call me a liar, fine do so
5:40 PM For what reason?
You no longer work with me and nor my team
Not to be an ass
but you told me to let you work to prove yourself
I have EVERYTHING saved
5:41 PM overdestined: Maybe I'm a skeptic, maybe I'm just overreacting but I know that this isn't the job for me. I don't want to cause you any more trouble but can I please just get paid and walk away?
me: Tim, I am not at home but I'll call in the AM and see what the hold up is
5:42 PM DO NOT put any of our brand on your stuff
If you want to be a skeptic after OFFERING
us your services to prove yourself
and THEN trying to siphon a recruiter for info
That's wrong
5:43 PM overdestined: It's not wrong. I have reason to be skeptical. I'm not the only one who's a little bit wary about this.
me: Oh who else is?
So my stuff is private
I have that right
5:44 PM who else Tim?
All the people you solicited with your story
5:45 PM overdestined: I have a friend of mine who's also on BHW and a jr. vip who's telling me I should shit list you and I don't think that's necessary. He doesn't think it makes any sense, either.
me: Who would that be?
Cause several that I have talked to and showed chat logs think you are just manipulating
overdestined: How am I manipulating
I may not have earned a full paycheck but I earned a paycheck
5:46 PM *********** 5:43 pm
post on BHW right now
hit him where it hurts
me: You even told me that I didnt need to pay you since it was a trial
overdestined: You still promised me a paycheck
me: You asked for start up money
overdestined: You gave me a pay scale
me: No I did not
overdestined: And you said you'd pay me today
Yesterday*
me: I said I'd give you start up money
Sorry, I needed to do traveling
5:47 PM I can't control everything Tim.
overdestined: You said you're paying me on the 27th
You're the CFO of a company. If you had to make a payment you could make it.
me: No you asked for START UP MONEY
So what, I still have people I ANSWER to
overdestined: You also said you'd pay me on the 27th
me: Not after ditching responsibilities
5:48 PM You were gone 2 days
overdestined: If you plan to take 50 members to las vegas in black hat world and possibly pay 300-500k, then how do you expect to promise $1500 to someone?
And not keep it
me: Tim
overdestined: And I was gone 2 days because you told me I was moving somewhere else
me: You will still get the payment
5:49 PM It may be a simple thing of them not wanting to send through PP
When I get back to office, I'll personally send it through Western Union or something so you have it
overdestined: I can't WU.. The only way I can get money right now is paypal. There's no reason why it can't be sent through paypal, it's secure.
5:50 PM me: No its not on our end
Simple fact of the matter of limits
overdestined: The limit for paypal is $2500 to send?
me: PP is not our portal for money processing
maybe for you
5:51 PM No one is here to screw you
overdestined: And I'm not here to screw anyone
me: But considering from the beginning
5:52 PM You WROTE that I was screwing you
overdestined: Because I'm frustrated and confused.
When can I get my money by the latest.
me: Just like you are now
I need to talk to my team and see what's going on
5:53 PM I get home tomorrow so like I stated
I'll happily eat the charges for Western Union or something
overdestined: What time tomorrow
me: Depends on if I get bumped some more
5:54 PM overdestined: I'm not bumping. But I'm frustrated and I just want the money that I earned. I know I didn't do a full months work but I was told I was getting a partial which turned in to getting a startup
me: If I get bumped!!
You are banned at BHW..
Whats up with that?
5:55 PM overdestined: I know I'm banned on BHW. Reason was "Spamming" trying to get a JV so I can earn some honest money.
me: Thats not honest
5:56 PM When I get home.. We will chat
overdestined: I was getting in to autoblogging or facebook viral scripts. I'm looking to get successful
Dude how do I even know you're getting on to a flight
me: lol
I am in Baltimore Maryland
5:58 PM I have no reason to lie
5:59 PM overdestined: No offense but if you wanted to send the money you could. There are ways to get it especially if you say what you have. For now I'm going to post a post on the SL and when I get my money I'll make sure it gets deleted. I'm not the only one who finds this a little odd. But give me some proof and I won't bother.
6:00 PM me: Excuse me???
How are you going to post when you are banned?
overdestined: Friend's going to post for me and I'll post my case on it.
6:01 PM And I have two other accounts.
me: hmm
You know I'll win because 7 others will tell them that you are full of it
and that you solicited them as well
6:02 PM And it was outside of a freelance and everything else
Hope your friends okay with getting his account banned too
I am being very nice, I am traveling
6:03 PM and have been the last two days
overdestined: Where is the proof is my question.
me: What you want as proof?
overdestined: And 7 others can say whatever they want, the proof will be there.
me: No it wont
overdestined: A picture of your staff, a picture of your building, ANYTHING.
me: You can see my building
overdestined: I haven't talked to any other members of your staff
Ever.
6:04 PM me: And guess what, you offered me work
6:05 PM I was being nice by offering the cash for your business
overdestined: Which I haven't received and have been promised.
I wouldn't be so skeptical if things connected
But I don't see anything that connects.
me: YOU WERE NEVER PROMISED!!!
Show me where I stated I would give you
And I promised that?
6:06 PM overdestined: I don't have half the chat logs, as I doubt you have half of them either. You told me what my pay scale is. You told me then it would be adjusted but I still would get paid. I didn't work for a few days because you said you were moving me
I asked if there was work I could do for you while you were figuring it out
Anything.
6:07 PM Half the time, no reply, which I understand. You were busy.
6:08 PM me: I have them all
I am looking at them right now
overdestined: Post me something from the first time I talked to you
6:09 PM me: Ok
6:10 PM 8:21 PM me: starting up a CPA company, reputation repair and product launches
overdestined: Oh that's very cool.
8:22 PM Well I really don't want to waste any of your time, can I explain the position I'm in?
8:23 PM me: feel free
8:24 PM overdestined: I'm a very intelligent and hard working man who is really needing a solid job and would prefer for it to be net-based. I'm engaged and in a year I'm going in to the Marine Corps for Aviation or Electronics as my MOS (more than likely Electronics) scored a 97 on my practice ASVAB) which of course is an easy test. I've got a lot of positive customer service experience and if you happen to have any spot for anything available, I would truly like to be considered. I really don't have a formal resume or anything but if you do ever fill me in to a position I can assure you, you will not find a harder worker.
fromoverdestined [email protected]
[email protected]
dateFri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:52 PM
subjectChat with overdestined
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6:11 PM overdestined: I'm more than willing to work for free on a trial basis or anything along those lines. I've been trying to do YouTube channels, twitter feeds, etc for niches and what not to get some money flow but the start up just isn't working.
I'm 17.
overdestined: That's fine. I really don't have much to hide. I looked for a job. You can post whatever you feel necessary in the thread I make. I just want what I should be getting.
me: You OFFERED
6:12 PM YOU OFFERED
overdestined: I offered. You took. I got told I would be paid so I worked. You said I was moving positions. So I still asked if there was anything I can do.
I asked for a contract
Never got a contract.
me: No I offered
the contract
But you were rarely there
overdestined: And I asked multiple times about when I could get the contract.
6:13 PM me: and you ditched out several times
overdestined: Every time I asked it was "next week" or "our lawyer's busy right now"
me: fiancee this or that
overdestined: Half the time I thought you fired me because you're so cryptic about everything
me: No I was trying to give you that trial basis
I was trying to give you a chance
6:14 PM Listen Tim, I'm more than happy to give you the 1500
I unfortunately am not even near my bank to pull the cash
for your start up
6:15 PM I have no ill will towards you and want you to have success
6:16 PM Whether you believe me abt work or not
overdestined: When do you land next?
me: I know whats true
6:17 PM I get in at 11:05
overdestined: AM?
me: PM tonight
6:18 PM Then I am flying out again tomorrow
overdestined: Can you have my money paypal'd to me by tonight. Please.
me: No
I cannot
I'll western union you or your dad
I am talking to my colleagues right now and they are back to the same thing
6:19 PM but because I believe in you and want you to see some success
I'll pull this personally from my account
overdestined: When can it be Western Union'd
6:20 PM me: probably in the mid afternoon
6:22 PM Like I stated
I am glad you don't know our parent company
No one wants to screw you or vice versa
6:26 PM overdestined: Can you Western Union it before you leave for your flight tomorrow
6:27 PM me: Possibly
Nothing against you but you threatening me and I have several asking me why I am still helping you makes me weary
6:28 PM Yet I want to help you
overdestined: I think we both want this to be over with. I have nothing against you either but I've been taken advantage of many times before so I'm very skeptical.
6:29 PM me: How is that possible?
You offering
That makes no sense
overdestined: If someone comes up and offers you something it doesn't mean you can't take advantage of them.
It's just more odd if it happens.
6:30 PM me: I wanted you to work a full and long term job with us Tim
I had convinced everyone to let you 6 month deal with us
As the social media and your paintball idea
6:31 PM overdestined: I wanted to as well but I don't think I'm quite ready for this.
me: Obviously
overdestined: The Western Union is: Daniel Stanitski , Bank Name: WSFS Bank Account
6:32 PM Routing and checking account # coming in a minute
That's a friend of mine who's just going to paypal me the money.
me: Email is nice
See that sounds strange
6:33 PM Come on now
Just email me
overdestined: The money is getting sent by my request to the bank account I request. I don't see how that sounds weird
He needs to know when you'
You're sending it, so he can tell his bank
me: Um
lol
Look at how it sounds
and then come back to me
overdestined: I just did. Nothing is wrong about it
But I need to know when you're wiring this
6:34 PM me: YES IT IS
just like you fucking think I am a sham
you sound like a sham just as much..
overdestined: [6:31:43 PM] dan stanitski: i have to run to my check book in my car.
[6:32:14 PM] Tom Nick: Okay, thank you man.
[6:32:40 PM] dan stanitski: yeah no problem, when is he going to wire it, i have to call my bank and let them know
[6:33:13 PM] dan stanitski: and when you have a chance go onto your paypal and make a donate button
[6:33:25 PM] dan stanitski: and ill use that to "donate" it to you
me: Wow
Money laundering at its best...
6:35 PM overdestined: Laundering?
lol
me: Yah thats what we are doing
and asking me to do
overdestined: I'm getting it sent to him and then sent to me through a service more preferable.
me: !!!!
Tim, your dad can pick it up just fine
6:36 PM You can too with ID
since you now have a drivers license
overdestined: I don't have a bank account and I'm not asking my dad to get my paycheck WU'd. This works perfectly fine.
me: No not to me
Aorry
I am not going to be liable
If he doesnt send it to you
overdestined: You're not liable. Once the money goes out you're not in charge of it anymore
6:37 PM I'll even contract it
I don't care.
I just want my money sent.
me: Nope
I just contacted BigBuddy
He'll have a remedy for me
overdestined: Okay. Posting on the SL, sorry man. :/ have a good time wherever.
me: You do
BigBuddy has already been notified
6:38 PM And see look at this
overdestined: Okay.
me: I was STILL willing to help you
overdestined: I don't want to get anything. You can post on BHW because I'm not doing any more private chat.
me: I dont want to send to someone who hasn't done business with me
overdestined: It doesn't matter. I'm willing to contract. This is a friend of mine.
me: Sorry
overdestined: You could easily paypal it to me.
Or some other way
But you won't.
me: No I cant
overdestined: Save it.
me: We hbeen through this
Want to know why?
6:39 PM I already logged in
and it limited me because I was in a different location
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pyrogod117
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I got this from Joe to post here:
Winchester
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Lets crunch numbers they don't lie
Spending money: 50 * 500 = $25,000
CHEAPEST Caesars Palace room price (minus 20% for bulk - which is still a little much) (50*5)*100 = $25,000
Flights: (cheapest for internal = $49 most expensive external so far would be roughly $1600 average = $1024) 50*1024.5 = $51,225
Food:
Average cost of in room dinner vegas (no drink): $60
Average cost of in room dinner vegas (with drink): $80
Average of dinners: $70
Average cost of in room breakfast: $40
Average cost of bottle of wine: $110
((($70*5)*50)+($40*5)*50)+(110*35))+15%=
(17500)+(10000)+(3850)+15%=
$31,350 + 15% =$36,052.50
Totals:
$36,052.50 + $51,225 + $25,000 + $25,000 + (margin 25%) = $102,958.12 - $171,596.88
But wait now we have to think taxes:
$102,958.12 - $171,596.88 + 7.5% (vegas tax rate)
$110,679.98 - $184,466.65
So most likely we are looking at $175,000
Now MugShots said there are several in his company and parent company which seems fair - infact if you google his skype "repguys" you can eventually backtrack to what his company might be.
To spend $175,000 he'd be spending 17.5% of his HOPEFULL yearly profit. Assuming that that average sale is $7.5-15% profit he would have to sell:
$6,000,000 - $13,000,000 by himself if he got all the profit (which would mean he is the sole owner of the parent company which I doubt)
Let's assume there is even four other people. This means there would be $25,000,000 - $52,000,000 in revenue a year. If there is only four partners.
That would be a rather large corporation - one would think he could pay the people he hires from here AND one would imagine that he would be better spending time doing his PR work rather than anything done here.
Numbers. Fun stuff. Win for BHW
Spending money: 50 * 500 = $25,000
CHEAPEST Caesars Palace room price (minus 20% for bulk - which is still a little much) (50*5)*100 = $25,000
Flights: (cheapest for internal = $49 most expensive external so far would be roughly $1600 average = $1024) 50*1024.5 = $51,225
Food:
Average cost of in room dinner vegas (no drink): $60
Average cost of in room dinner vegas (with drink): $80
Average of dinners: $70
Average cost of in room breakfast: $40
Average cost of bottle of wine: $110
((($70*5)*50)+($40*5)*50)+(110*35))+15%=
(17500)+(10000)+(3850)+15%=
$31,350 + 15% =$36,052.50
Totals:
$36,052.50 + $51,225 + $25,000 + $25,000 + (margin 25%) = $102,958.12 - $171,596.88
But wait now we have to think taxes:
$102,958.12 - $171,596.88 + 7.5% (vegas tax rate)
$110,679.98 - $184,466.65
So most likely we are looking at $175,000
Now MugShots said there are several in his company and parent company which seems fair - infact if you google his skype "repguys" you can eventually backtrack to what his company might be.
To spend $175,000 he'd be spending 17.5% of his HOPEFULL yearly profit. Assuming that that average sale is $7.5-15% profit he would have to sell:
$6,000,000 - $13,000,000 by himself if he got all the profit (which would mean he is the sole owner of the parent company which I doubt)
Let's assume there is even four other people. This means there would be $25,000,000 - $52,000,000 in revenue a year. If there is only four partners.
That would be a rather large corporation - one would think he could pay the people he hires from here AND one would imagine that he would be better spending time doing his PR work rather than anything done here.
Numbers. Fun stuff. Win for BHW
pyrogod117
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This is also a conversation I just had with him:
Winchester
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Also RepATX doesn't seem to be a company and no significant internet mention of Joe Anderson - seems at least one of these names would exist on google if he could make a million in profit
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JackSparrow
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From the conversations it seems the mugshots is willing to pay money out of his own pocket, when his partners don't want to pay out anything. Which seems quite admirable if mugshots actually does what he claims.
But the disgruntled worker is trying to use some dodgy send money to other people's accounts method to collect his salary. I understand he is 17 years old and i don't know enough about American law regarding bank account ownership, so can't really make an opinion on that issue.
Seems a strange situation!!
But the disgruntled worker is trying to use some dodgy send money to other people's accounts method to collect his salary. I understand he is 17 years old and i don't know enough about American law regarding bank account ownership, so can't really make an opinion on that issue.
Seems a strange situation!!
pyrogod117
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You can have your own bank account at 17 without any problem. I've had my own since 16 without a custodian on it. Debit card and all.
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