How to Use Xrumer With White Hat Sites

[battman323]

It involves creating a network that doesn't associate your Xrumer links to the white hat site. Here's a super hi-tech illustration of what to do:

So send Xrumer links to parasite hosts, sites that aren't yours (to cloud the trail...), to blogs like blogger and wordpress, and your black hat sites that you expect to lose anyway.

Link those to another level of sites that we'll call "grey hat" but they should be primarily white hat looking sites that just serve as link juice to the main white hat site.

Basically, use Xrumer to give your existing links more juice, and don't link directly to your own sites.

 

[lukeevans]

So basically reg .infos get free hosting set up a doorway page on it have it redirect to another site which redirects to your whitehat site?

 

[aj113]

I have just ordered 100 000 backlinks to my whitehat site from Sharpro's service. I know there are many warnings against doing this, but my thinking was: if this can get you banned from goggle's serps, then it would be very easy to nuke the competition out of business wouldn't it? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

 

[battman323]

So basically reg .infos get free hosting set up a doorway page on it have it redirect to another site which redirects to your whitehat site?

Don't redirect, you want to build link juice to those last few sites. So you use the Xrumer spammy links to build up expendables, the expendables pass that link juice to the other sites, which should be safe, which link to yours. Pure linking, no redirects.

If you're using Xrumer for traffic, then that's another case. If you're using it for SEO, then do it like this and your white hat site is untouchable.

 

[lukeevans]

Don't redirect, you want to build link juice to those last few sites. So you use the Xrumer spammy links to build up expendables, the expendables pass that link juice to the other sites, which should be safe, which link to yours. Pure linking, no redirects.

If you're using Xrumer for traffic, then that's another case. If you're using it for SEO, then do it like this and your white hat site is untouchable.

Use xrummer on say craplin*k.info then have it redirect to say decent site which links to your white hat site?

So I'm guessing you have to have a decent bit of $ to get this rolling? Or can you just use .info and free hosting which puts ads all over your sites, and it won't matter?

Do you make the lets say middle site related to the white hat site?

Also if using xrumer for traffic do you just cut out the middle site?

Sorry for the load of poorly typed questions I'm in a rush and I know xrumer is good but I'm pretty new to "grayhatting" techniques


I call myself a grayhatter as I have yet to make a site full out blackhat and make $100 in a week

Hopefully I'l get there lol

 

[battman323]

If you're using xrumer for traffic, then I'd send all the links to just one domain that redirects to whatever you're selling.

To use xrumer for rankings, you'll get the most benefit from using poor quality links like what Xrumer gets to build up several pages with a little link juice that all link to yours, giving it more authority.

If registering 5 domains to make grey hat sites is expensive for you, then you can keep using parasite hosting like freewebs or stuff like that. You'll get more benefit from building up sites you own though.

 

[lukeevans]

Oh I thought we where talking about a few hundred bad domains

But I thought it had to go like bh domain redirects to gh domain redirects to wh website?

Wouldn't that require more than 5?

 

[ptsniper]

Stop saying redirect without telling us what your objective is!


What he's saying for rankings/backlinks is;

1. (Xrumer links on - forums, blogs etc)

Point to;

2. (your own gh sites - free sites, blogs, self-made etc)

Point to;

3. Your 'WH' Site



What he's saying for traffic is;

1. (Xrumer links on - forums, blogs etc)

Point to;

2. (single switch-over site)

Redirects to;

3. Your sales page/site

 

[Traffics Pain]

100, 000 Links? You own nike or you are a tv station? There will be nothing natural about 100,000 links for 99.9999999% of websites inside of like ten years so of course expect a penalty as quick as you can build them.

As for that penalty, in most cases if foul play isnt obvious then it would be an immediate dropping of any link juice from any of those links as oppose to a site being dropped from the index altogether. So innocent whitehat sites wouldnt usually lose out no. If you are to be dropped from the index there would probably be clear footprints of foul play coming from the site in question.

 

[BlackSmack]

I"m just testing out Xrumer and I say this.

You can either use it on a small scale to automate forum postings you would make manually and save yourself lots of time, use a sig to generate the link juice.

Or you can use it as an instant traffic surge, I can't imagine 100,000 links isn't going to get you a shit-ton traffic from just the sheer number alone, especially on forums where people are actively reading and clicking.

But I will know in a few days ;D

 

[neokk]

Very pleased to read the software can do its thing for WH sites also.
Is there any risk for the WH site, as in it suffering the "penalty" (dropping of rank or de-indexing, whatever)?

I understand that is why you would put up the other level sites in the first place, but just wondering if the penalty that those will probably suffer might follow to the WH site?

The WH site is my main bizz so I can't be experimenting to much there.

Thanks!

 

[MontyzPython]

Great diagram and explanation. I've done something similar in the past.

I'm not sure what a parasite host is, although I've heard the term before. Care to clarify?

 

[ptsniper]

Parasite hosting is where you put your content on another site, essentially using a page on their site as your own. This allows you to benefit from the 'status' of that site. (Most then usually redirect the page to their sales link.)

You normally see it on the top spam phrases like 'buy vi*gra', 'buy ph*ntermine' etc.

e.g. for 'buy ph*ntermine' at the moment you get the following in 2nd;

http://news.meta.ua/redirect.php?url=88.80.7.248/sutra/in.cgi%3F3%26parameter=phentermine

this isn't the best example of parasiting, but you get the point.

edit: here's a better example, and it's on an edu;

http://centaur.acm.jhu.edu/newsite/images/.svn/props/.drugs/?q=buy-phentermine-levitra.htm

 

[lukeevans]

How do you go about doing that?

Parasite hosting is where you put your content on another site, essentially using a page on their site as your own. This allows you to benefit from the 'status' of that site. (Most then usually redirect the page to their sales link.)

You normally see it on the top spam phrases like 'buy vi*gra', 'buy ph*ntermine' etc.

e.g. for 'buy ph*ntermine' at the moment you get the following in 2nd;

http://news.meta.ua/redirect.php?url=88.80.7.248/sutra/in.cgi%3F3%26parameter=phentermine

this isn't the best example of parasiting, but you get the point.

edit: here's a better example, and it's on an edu;

http://centaur.acm.jhu.edu/newsite/images/.svn/props/.drugs/?q=buy-phentermine-levitra.htm

 

[ptsniper]

How do you go about doing that?

it all depends on the site you're trying to do it on. there is no one-for-all solution.

 

[lukeevans]

I actually own an rx cash site like above currently using the same template if that helps.

 

[MontyzPython]

Parasite hosting is where you put your content on another site, essentially using a page on their site as your own. This allows you to benefit from the 'status' of that site. (Most then usually redirect the page to their sales link.)

You normally see it on the top spam phrases like 'buy vi*gra', 'buy ph*ntermine' etc.

e.g. for 'buy ph*ntermine' at the moment you get the following in 2nd;

http://news.meta.ua/redirect.php?url=88.80.7.248/sutra/in.cgi%3F3%26parameter=phentermine

this isn't the best example of parasiting, but you get the point.

edit: here's a better example, and it's on an edu;

http://centaur.acm.jhu.edu/newsite/images/.svn/props/.drugs/?q=buy-phentermine-levitra.htm

Ah OK. I've actually seen that done on an edu before. So we just need to figure out how to find these pages. Got it.

 

[ptsniper]

what i mean is, it all depends on the site you're trying to parasite on - not the affiliate program. The exploits are different depending on the site.

 

[ptsniper]

we just need to figure out how to find these pages.

yep, you look for the exploit. easiest way is to see what's working currently.

 

[lukeevans]

oh ok

So in a way you get into the site, and set up a page on it? Is this hard to do?


Also is it kind of like the pbwiki exploit?