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Well I'd definitely be reporting that guy now. You're getting rejected for him copying your screenshots?? That's like going to jail for someone else's crime..
I don't even know who that guy or app is. I don't want to waste my time. I have already wasted weeks because of this shit.

Also I have no clue whats going on with Apple. They literally called me and said the problems are the screenshots. I changed the screenshots and sent the app for review again. Now I still get the same rejection, LOL. I messaged them and asked them what is actually going on.
 
reason. Even after the call. LOL.
I have same problem there and after I read Apple forums, Reddit and many other boards I understand one thing - when Apple see that you try to submit app which they consider saturated they will reject you, no matter what you do or change on app. If you got answer from one review guy, next time in review you will get new one and that guy will work by a script - see app, check it, there is few similars apps, deny it. And there is no help with that. I change app content, added new features, new icon, screenshots and nevermind, I got reject every time.

Right now I dont know what to do. I have 5 Google Play accounts verified, two with apps and three without apps because all have 2 or 3 app ban. I dont know should I use that accounts because next app ban probably will terminate account and maybe cause chain ban to all others - because Google love it.
 
I have same problem there and after I read Apple forums, Reddit and many other boards I understand one thing - when Apple see that you try to submit app which they consider saturated they will reject you, no matter what you do or change on app. If you got answer from one review guy, next time in review you will get new one and that guy will work by a script - see app, check it, there is few similars apps, deny it. And there is no help with that. I change app content, added new features, new icon, screenshots and nevermind, I got reject every time.

Right now I dont know what to do. I have 5 Google Play accounts verified, two with apps and three without apps because all have 2 or 3 app ban. I dont know should I use that accounts because next app ban probably will terminate account and maybe cause chain ban to all others - because Google love it.
Yeah bro, I understand that, but my app is not new. It is 2-3 years old. It got approved 20+ times in updates previously. They are literally preventing me from UPDATING an app....
 
I don't even know who that guy or app is. I don't want to waste my time. I have already wasted weeks because of this shit.

Also I have no clue whats going on with Apple. They literally called me and said the problems are the screenshots. I changed the screenshots and sent the app for review again. Now I still get the same rejection, LOL. I messaged them and asked them what is actually going on.
That doesn't seem to make sense. You said previously it turned out someone else was stealing your screenshots, how do you know that if you don't know who it is? I assumed you'd seen the app with your screenshots on it otherwise how would you know..? Seems like you could have saved weeks by just reporting that app.
 
That doesn't seem to make sense. You said previously it turned out someone else was stealing your screenshots, how do you know that if you don't know who it is? I assumed you'd seen the app with your screenshots on it otherwise how would you know..? Seems like you could have saved weeks by just reporting that app.

I had a call with an Apple representative who said my app update gets rejected because of the screenshots. She said I copied someone elses screenshots, which isn't true. I don't know if someone stole my screenshots. I never saw it. Even now, I have no idea who she was referring or what other app she meant.

You say I could have saved weeks by reporting that app? I am not scraping the app store 24/7 to see if someone could have stolen my screenshots. How the fuck can I know if some random dude puts my screenshots on his random app? Wtf are you even on about? Please read the previous posts again: Apple NEVER said the problem were the screenshots until I had the call. So how can I know? Come on.

Look, I do know my place. I know that if I argue with these people or start a discussion or come off as a little bit aggressive, they might terminate my developer account. They are the ones in the position of power. They can destroy your income. You need to know what to say, how to say it and what to simply let slide in order to move on.

Of course I didn't steal any screenshots. For them, it would be super easy to find out. My app was published in 2022 and my screenshots didn't change. I could have said to this person on the phone: "Are you dumb? You don't have eyes or can not read? My app is there since 2022, so how can I steal screenshots of an app that was published way after mine?!" But I didn't do it for my own sake.


By the way, no matter how stressful this situation or outlandish Apple might appear. It is STILL BETTER than Google Play. And why? Because Google Play would have directly terminated the entire developer account and there would be NO ONE you could talk to (only send a 1000 letters appeal).

Google Play had my account terminated before because of a word that repeated itself (some mistake in the translation) in the Chinese app description! Thats who they are.
 
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Update (here again, this time in the right thread :poop:)

They finally approved the update. Man, this was nasty. I spent 3 weeks guessing whats wrong with my app and app store description.

The problem is: The rejection is really vague. They say:

We noticed your app shares a similar binary, metadata, and/or concept as apps submitted to the App Store by other developers, with only minor differences.

Submitting similar or repackaged apps is a form of spam that creates clutter and makes it difficult for users to discover new apps.

And this can many a lot of things. It just leaves you guessing. Is the UI the problem? The binary code? one specific feature? The app title?

I improved my entire app, changed its design, changed its branding, added new features, onboarding, paywall, etc. but NONE of that was ever the problem. According to them, the screenshots were the problem. Specifically, as they write: "metadata". The metadata includes the title, keywords, app description, subtitle and the screenshots.

After every rejection I asked them: Whats the exact problem? can you be a bit more specific? but they just kept copy and pasting the same reason above until I requested a call with them.

I mean, it is also in their interest to fix this problem as soon as possible. I believe they have a lot of things to do, many apps to review. I don't know why they wouldn't just say the exact reason. I mean, lets be honest, the guys are looking at something specific and say "Nope, he didn't change it - rejection". Sometimes the app review took 15 minutes until they rejected it. So they were definitely looking at ONE specific thing they wanted me to change, I just had no idea what it was.
 
Update (here again, this time in the right thread :poop:)

They finally approved the update. Man, this was nasty. I spent 3 weeks guessing whats wrong with my app and app store description.

The problem is: The rejection is really vague. They say:



And this can many a lot of things. It just leaves you guessing. Is the UI the problem? The binary code? one specific feature? The app title?

I improved my entire app, changed its design, changed its branding, added new features, onboarding, paywall, etc. but NONE of that was ever the problem. According to them, the screenshots were the problem. Specifically, as they write: "metadata". The metadata includes the title, keywords, app description, subtitle and the screenshots.

After every rejection I asked them: Whats the exact problem? can you be a bit more specific? but they just kept copy and pasting the same reason above until I requested a call with them.

I mean, it is also in their interest to fix this problem as soon as possible. I believe they have a lot of things to do, many apps to review. I don't know why they wouldn't just say the exact reason. I mean, lets be honest, the guys are looking at something specific and say "Nope, he didn't change it - rejection". Sometimes the app review took 15 minutes until they rejected it. So they were definitely looking at ONE specific thing they wanted me to change, I just had no idea what it was.
Very strange man! I think some employees send it back without checking. I imagine that nowadays with AI the number of apps they have to check has increased considerably.

Were you able to start with the new crypto app?
 
Very strange man! I think some employees send it back without checking. I imagine that nowadays with AI the number of apps they have to check has increased considerably.

Were you able to start with the new crypto app?
Not yet, but will do in the following days. Right now want to finish another app
 
I mostly receive 4.3.0 design spam message, did you have same one?
Yes.

If you don't know what exactly they mean, you can request a call and they will tell you in detail.
 
They reject my last app back in august but I didnt realize that screens or titles can be a problem too, I just change app interface but now screens or titles. I will try to send new one, thanks! Will post results here.
 
They reject my last app back in august but I didnt realize that screens or titles can be a problem too, I just change app interface but now screens or titles. I will try to send new one, thanks! Will post results here.
Yeah, the problem is they are really vague in what they say. It can literally be anything. I changed almost every aspect of my app, spent 5 days working on it and then these guys just say "yeah, actually the screenshots are the problem"
 
You say I could have saved weeks by reporting that app? I am not scraping the app store 24/7 to see if someone could have stolen my screenshots. How the fuck can I know if some random dude puts my screenshots on his random app? Wtf are you even on about?
No you said you wasted weeks on this already and you said you found that someone had stolen your screenshots....you seem a bit confused now I have to say.

"Apple was really patient but at the same time they wasted so much time"
"Because it has been a back and forth for more than 2 weeks and I just want to move on"
"Someone stole my screenshots and used it for their own app."

Anyway forget about it, I was just going by what you said. And you're right, I find Apple still way better than Google Play. I only use Apple. I have a google play account but gave up with them.
 
No you said you wasted weeks on this already and you said you found that someone had stolen your screenshots....you seem a bit confused now I have to say.

"Apple was really patient but at the same time they wasted so much time"
"Because it has been a back and forth for more than 2 weeks and I just want to move on"
"Someone stole my screenshots and used it for their own app."

Anyway forget about it, I was just going by what you said. And you're right, I find Apple still way better than Google Play. I only use Apple. I have a google play account but gave up with them.
You really think apple would give him the company/app that stole the screenshots?
 
@nakamura
How you would promote completely new app?

What ad provider to use?
I mean Google ads, meta (fb) ads, appstore search ads?
Of course, good social media account is good way but clearly not enough.

I got excellent app idea and im 99% sure its not yet made.
But userbase for this app is huge from mothers to scientists.

How people or you would advertise such app?
Is it true that paid ads are almost guaranteed way to grab attention?
 
@nakamura
How you would promote completely new app?

What ad provider to use?
I mean Google ads, meta (fb) ads, appstore search ads?
Of course, good social media account is good way but clearly not enough.

I got excellent app idea and im 99% sure its not yet made.
But userbase for this app is huge from mothers to scientists.

How people or you would advertise such app?
Is it true that paid ads are almost guaranteed way to grab attention?
First, focus on the app itself and the flow. Currently, I downloaded the app "Moonshot" and this app doesn't have many features, but the UX and the UI is awesome.

it really depends on the niche of your app. For some niches, Google ads work fine. For others, which are more focused on visuals, Meta is best. For apps with a "wow" effect, TikTok and Meta are great as well. Also, you can try Apple Search Ads. Often time, what I noticed is users that you acquire through Apple Search ads are more likely to make in app purchases.

In the end, you will have to test different providers and make sure you integrate analytics as best as possible to get the best possible data.

If you have a strong branding and you spend a lot of money on paid ads on Facebook, etc. you can definitely grab attention and stay in the mind of the users.

Basically there are two ways I do:

- Full focus on organic traffic (no branding, keywords instead)
- Full focus on branding (brand name first, then keywords)

If you don't have a budget, try full focus on organic traffic first to get as much money. If you got money, try focus on branding. Also, generally speaking users are more willing to purchase IAP when your brand has a strong branding
 
You really think apple would give him the company/app that stole the screenshots?
That doesn't make sense on any level. He said himself that someone else was stealing his screenshots so why would he ask them for the app name? If he knows it's happening then he must obviously already know which app it is otherwise what in tf is that statement based on....
This was his quote: "Someone stole my screenshots and used it for their own app."

You think he doesn't know which app it is but knows for sure that someone stole the screenshots? You really didn't think at all before you posted that did you.
 
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