Spotify stream farm questions

[user10364]

Is it profitable tho? Let's say u have 50x phones, spotify pays 0.004 per stream. Let's say the song is 2m. In 24h you will be able to get 720 streams.

720 * 50 = 36000
36000 * 0.004 = $144
0.75 x 50 (proxies isp) = 37.5

144 / 2 (distrokid's cut)
72
72-37.5 = 34.5

You also have to charge the phones, maybe have premium on some, etc. This calculation took 30s so it's not the most accurate one. So do you think that $30 / day is worth it lol?

distrokid takes half?

also, I can't imagine phones being a good option long term

 

[Twez]

distrokid takes half?

also, I can't imagine phones being a good option long term

Well if u wanna use vm's u gotta spend lots of time to make sure they ain't getting detected.

 

[simone1977]

It's obvious that you've never streamed.....that bill with the minutes and seconds...$30 a day...According to you, you listen to exactly 2 minutes of a song for 24 hours a day and Spotify doesn't block them. .I think that sometimes before leaving on various trips you should study a little....

 

[veezup]

Get more phones and more artists. Spread your streams cos soon if ur artists and songs aren’t much those songs will get take down. No doubt. I’ve been there.
All u need is more phones, more artists and more songs. Good songs with lyrics.
Sometimes u can upload instrumentals too but make it minimal.
That ur 3k streams per day u can scale it to 10k-15k streams per day with more phones but make sure u spread streams across many artists and songs like each artist with 30 songs minimum having 3K streams/artist/daily and u have like 20-30 artists. You’ll make money with ease.
It’s what I’ve been doing and no it’s stress.
Only requires some good investments.
This means 30 songs = 100 streams per song daily =3k streams per day
If u have 20 artists and u have enough phones u got massive streams.
It’s what I’m doing like I said. My TG is @steve31117

are you putting all the songs from multiple artists in the same playlist? i was told that if you do this its not a good idea because if you are caught, your other artists will get found as well since theyre also in the playlist

 

[veezup]

It also worth to try streaming on Apple Music - they have better payout rates but need to be careful - not too much streaming.

There are many good distros like Distrokid, Landr, Routenote, Amuse, Tunecore. Just try them.

how much do you stream on apple music? i do 12 hours almost every day no issues. i make around £100 a month from one account. wondering if i can do even more hours each day, as long its safe of course

 

[Ranki_SEO]

It's a Huge planing, go ahead Brother with your Dream

 

[redamarko]

Hello, I have a catalog of 50 professional songs ready for commercial use. I prefer to sell them all so that I can develop my home studio.

 

[fushii]

very interesting thread

 

[Audiowhiz]

You could probably run this at a cost of 0.75€ per IP. That's the price we can provide per IP for IPv4 ISPs, not sure if there are better rates out there

If you’re providing ISP quality 0 fraud score proxies at that price I’ll buy you 500.

 

[pulicafranaru]

Hi,
I am currently in the process of creating 500 Spotify accounts manually across different ips and I’d like to use them to hopefully boost my future songs into the Spotify algorithm. All this will be done manually without a bot. The accounts will stream my songs and other songs in the genre and they will only stream my song once or twice in a day to make it look like real people. The problem is that I will be using free accounts and I’m worried that Spotify will detect this and will catch me for bot streaming as well as not putting my songs in the algorithm. Does anyone have any insights on the subject? Will Spotify catch be if I only use free accounts?

I have 8 cheap androids and I am replaying my song over and over. Any chance this will work or should I do something different?

 

[meta4tony]

If they listen from my instagram or other traffic sources and act like a real human being, why would the accounts get flagged? These account would be trained like real humans that already listen, save songs and create playlists like a real person would.

You don't wanna go over 2 to 3 streams per listener per day. You need about about 100 streams , from 50 listeners ,25 saves for about 2 weeks,so about 700 accounts, then you should hit discovery weekly. Hitting the algorithm will net you way more streams in the long run if the music is at least decent. You could even run fb conversation ads targeting 3rd world for 2 dollars a day to make it safer.

 

[meta4tony]

I would love to help you out here and give you the best advice I can on this subject.

Okay, so first I want to start off by giving you the music platforms I would recommend avoiding.
1). Apple Music
2). Spotify
3). Amazon Music
4). YouTube Music

These are the Top 4 that I would avoid trying to fraudulently stream as this will ultimately lead to getting zero payouts and getting your music taken down.

Let me explain,

So for Apple Music and even Amazon Music, if you try to bot and stream farm this it’s a pretty much a guarantee that they will ban you, get your music taken down from every other music platform as well and depending on your distributor they will likely, majority of the time withhold your royalties indefinitely.

Now with Spotify, this is very very complicated. To be able to successfully start a streaming farm you not only need to use a substantial amount of Premium paid accounts (not free accounts that are created using a bot) but you also need high quality rotating Residential/ Mobile 4/5g proxies with a very large pool of IPs. I’m not just talking about a few premium accounts either, I’m talking about spending thousands of dollars in legitimate paid for accounts.

Furthermore, if you choose to use phones, this is also going to be very expensive as you will need a substantial amount of phones. Or if you choose the bot programs, you still need to invest in a functioning bot program that utilizes protections to help avoid triggering flags that will get your artist streams marked as suspicious and thus fraudulent.

Spotify has evolved incredibly since 2020 and they have been actively focusing on fraudulent streaming activity and successfully made it their mission to prevent fake artists and those who are illegitimately inflating streams from getting any payouts. They will certainly either withhold your royalties or they will pay you out cents, a lot of the time even without taking down your music so that you keep doing what you are doing and spending money hoping to get a good payout. Trust me when I say, you will likely lose your investments and you will throw money down the drain if you peruse trying to bot on Spotify.

Just think it takes 3 months to get a payout on Spotify. In that 3 months say you spend $1,000 a month. So after 3 months you spent $3,000 and you are hoping to get a $6,000 payout. What will end up happening is you’ll get maybe if you’re lucky $20-$60 for example. And you will likely keep going because you think well they didn’t take down your music, maybe next month is when the big payout will hit.. Well 9.9/10 it won’t ever come. And so you will certainly be down and lose money.

For the beginners trying to get into bot farming, I would never recommend getting into something as complicated and complex as Spotify botting. Years ago before 2020 before there was massive influx of botters; it was profitable having a Spotify bot farm. But sadly, with how advanced Spotify has got with artificial streaming intelligence. The average Joe will not be able to beat their bot detection infrastructure.

There are however platforms out there that are much easier to game the system. That doesn’t require such a huge investment and that’s SoundCloud. This is coming from my own personal experience over the course of the years ever since early 2016-2017 when I first started getting into music bot farming. I’ve experienced the highs and lows. So take it from me, those are the platforms to avoid.

Yeah I had 30k organic streams and ended up on a botted playlist and got my song taken down with only a few 100 bot streams on Spotify. One thing about YouTube nobody talks about is publishing though. If you bot a music or lyric video on YouTube (not YouTube music) with USA views Bmi will actually pay you royalties. It's not profitable but if you're promoting real music, you can actually break even on Google ads views.

 

[JazSky]

As far as I heard the best way to do it is just get cheap androids and run them phyiscally. It's quite profitable

I hear this in other forum, i think this can work pretty well

 

[veezup]

As far as I heard the best way to do it is just get cheap androids and run them phyiscally. It's quite profitable

i currently have 2 iphones and my windows pc streaming about 14 hours a day, (iphones have apple music subscriptions, pc has apple music, spotify, and tidal suscription). I earn about £80-100 a month for each subscription and have been doing so for a while now. everything running smooth. each device has its own artist/distrubutor profile so theyre not linked together or traceable in any way. is there a limit of devices i can use in the same ip before i could get caught? i was thinking of buying a few more used iphones, but dont want to risk getting caught

 

[tauro29]

Yes, me personally I do not use an actual phone farm. I think this would be too difficult to manage on such a large scale ( would be okay on a smaller scale) however, it’s not needed as with advanced bot programs there wouldn’t be a need to use an actual phone farm. So I do use tons of RDPs to run the software on so it can be running non stop.

But for the bot if you decide to create one yourself, you will really want a developer to work on this as you will want features in the program that will help prevent bot detections. If you just had a click farm without using fingerprints, random human moments etc etc what will happen is that they will easily be able to detect this. So you will need to find a good bot to use ( which isn’t public that can be found on Google) or you will need a good developer to make one unless you can code and do it yourself.

I recommend reading some more of the other posts I’ve made here on BHW that explains something further in more details that can really help you get started.

you are a good teacher . I would like you to publish your method. to be aware and learn from your experience.

 

[dieulli]

Is it profitable tho? Let's say u have 50x phones, spotify pays 0.004 per stream. Let's say the song is 2m. In 24h you will be able to get 720 streams.

720 * 50 = 36000
36000 * 0.004 = $144
0.75 x 50 (proxies isp) = 37.5

144 / 2 (distrokid's cut)
72
72-37.5 = 34.5

You also have to charge the phones, maybe have premium on some, etc. This calculation took 30s so it's not the most accurate one. So do you think that $30 / day is worth it lol?

you have never touched streaming before, have you

 

[dieulli]

I have 8 cheap androids and I am replaying my song over and over. Any chance this will work or should I do something different?

only 1 song? you will most likely get banned by your distributor

 

[Twez]

you have never touched streaming before, have you

only for 2 years. so no I haven't ever touched it

 

[dieulli]

only for 2 years. so no I haven't ever touched it

Stop the cap. Your calculations are so wrong mate.

Distrokid does not take 50% and if you pay 75 cents DAILY per proxy you're doing something wrong or you don't know how to do a simple calculation.
Even if we say the distributor takes a 10% cut, which many don't, and you pay 10$/ proxy/ month you are looking at 3.388$/ month or 113$ daily.

And if you were really streaming for 2 years you would know that it's very easy to get 10$+ for 1k stream instead of the 4$ you claim. That would make 282$ daily with 50 phones.

+ electricity for 50 phones is negligible.

 

[simone1977]

but you still believe these things....ahahaha