[Journey] Building a private mass dm network again

[hexagonal]

Still testing accounts and proxies while promoting an old IG page of a friend, don't have too much time to research this been focusing on building SAAS and a deal that could add 2k to MRR

 

[xploader]

You are doing actions with requests or with browser automation?

 

[hexagonal]

You are doing actions with requests or with browser automation?

Requests

 

[hexagonal]

Been sending 20k DMS daily for a few days and got a warning from IG about using automated tools and getting captcha on the account that I'm promoting.

Want to check if IG will ban my account in case IG is banning for mass DM then people could use it to take down competitors profile which is unlikely but still want to check it.

 

[rxnaldo]

Following! GL mate

 

[synciaguard]

As far as I know, there is really no better way to do this than what you have described.

 

[olivier]

I worked hard to find the right model and chatter for ONLYFANS AGENCY.

i Suggest you to take another Path;
Better if you build and manage an SMM panel in a specific niche that you like.


here are some other idea
Join adult cpa network and sp@m your adult smartlink on youtube. Cant tell exactly how (I dont need competition), but you will figure out. Search on Journey discussions here on forum.
2) get adult niche interested email list and send them adult cpa smartlinks in huge amounts (sp@m).
3) join cpabuild and find school kids online (discord, forums, yt, tiktok) and start sending them roblox related "cheats" with content locker. promise them 10000-50000 robux for unlocking locker.
4) Learn mobile app coding and make apps and publish them on play/app store and advertize on social media

These are easiest methods. Yes they still require dedication, willpower, time, dedication, some accounts and some knowledge but they work.
Choose 1 and work on it without stopping.
Dont do many (all of these at once). You will get nowhere.

There are more working methods but this should be enough and I stop here

I didnt allow you to copypaste my messages!


@hexagonal

Price of 1k DMS has increased but it's still low to make it worth, realized a lot of struggle had to be done with 3rd party things rather than trying to reinvent the wheel.

So you buy fresh IG accounts and then feed the list to your bot and thats how it works?
Or what expenses you have there? Proxy?

Do you warm up the people before DM ro you just blast in fresh account: Hey, go to this account here: @whatevergirlman and check it out
You blindly spam every person without looking their interests/hobbies or you choose what accounts to spam?

 

[hexagonal]

I didnt allow you to copypaste my messages!


@hexagonal


So you buy fresh IG accounts and then feed the list to your bot and thats how it works?
Or what expenses you have there? Proxy?

Do you warm up the people before DM ro you just blast in fresh account: Hey, go to this account here: @whatevergirlman and check it out
You blindly spam every person without looking their interests/hobbies or you choose what accounts to spam?

Yes, expenses are proxies and AWS that's 1$ or so per month

I warm up them and scrape the followers of target accounts

 

[atif_xc]

I warm up them and scrape the followers of target accounts

When it comes to warm up what would be the best advice you could give? (plz expand on it a little bit if it's possible) thank you!

 

[hexagonal]

Crossed 10k MMR with other business, my mind has decided to say F* OFF to all the doubts about this project going to make this work no matter what.

Once I hit the right spot for 0.5$ per 1000 DMS going to giveaway a few hundreds and play all night.

I was thinking on building IOS/Android apps to get dms sent by real accounts but that would mean playing under strict rules.

Not everything is great

Was depressed for several weeks, what was happening? Turns out it was me trying to launch into IOS/Android apps they have so many red tape and bureaucracy that kills all creativity.

Decided to say F* you to that I've come to this point by being creative and using unusual methods.

Won't try to make an IOS/Android app EVER i've tried it so many times but it always feel playing to another person rules.

We're in BHW that human race is not made to fit big corp/other people expectations, we have to be creative make 100 different new things.

Also going to pursue more business in the against TOS for different platforms I don't care about bans, money spend but I'm going to win at the end, feeling alive again.

 

[w4ed]

what kind of proxies do you use ?

 

[sexycrazywolf]

What's an interesting journey. I'm following

 

[hexagonal]

Update

Talked with a few private sellers, testing limits of accs so far.
Going to work this during all the weekend will buy 1 or 2 android phones if there's no reliable seller.

what kind of proxies do you use ?

4G Mobile

 

[vittorianicolosi1994]

Android transfers all sensitive device data easier to app owners and Google, This jeopardizes accounts and results in bans and ghosted content,
so easier regarding violations of your privacy.
- The automation is easier to detect by app owners, so easier for apps to ban your accounts and ghost your activities.
- The bots you use are easier to get taken down by app owners.

How tò deal with it
?
Does your account get shadowbanned quickly?

 

[hexagonal]

When it comes to warm up what would be the best advice you could give? (plz expand on it a little bit if it's possible) thank you!

Send 1DM during 2 hours until 12 DMS for 1 week then increase to 24-48

Android transfers all sensitive device data easier to app owners and Google, This jeopardizes accounts and results in bans and ghosted content,
so easier regarding violations of your privacy.
- The automation is easier to detect by app owners, so easier for apps to ban your accounts and ghost your activities.
- The bots you use are easier to get taken down by app owners.

How tò deal with it
?
Does your account get shadowbanned quickly?

Decided to not follow that path and found a provider of aged accounts for a low price.
Finally seeing some improvements right now I'm spending 3$/1k DMS in a consistent manner and without burning accounts also got some accounts able to send 100 DMS

 

[followerlike]

Interesting,good luck

 

[PedroGonzalo]

Hello BHW! In the past I used to run a bot network for 5k fake accounts capable of sending 50k DMS per day, now I want to test a new way to make the bot network, found new tools that could decrease the cost to 0.2$ per 1k DMS, I'll be clear on the setup

Plan

Running a software dev company has teach me that simplicity is the real king, I'll use a single EC2 instance (think of a virtual machine) running a custom library and a database if I have to scale it'll as easy as spinning a new instance and make an extra DB collection.

Each account will send 10 DMS per day nothing too crazy I don't want to burn accounts when that is not really the way to make DMS cost efficient, the thing that will take the biggest time is to make the automation suite strong enough.

The first thing will be taking handle of the automation suite as soon as I've an undetectable suite will run it with 100 accounts if not a single account is banned then will scale it.

Costs
- Emails
- Proxies
- AWS

Spoiler: Technical aspects

EC2 using m7g.medium using a custom puppeteer package it'll run 24/7 and it has enough power to run up to 10k accounts proxies rotating each 5mins, mongoDB to store info

Hey man. Read this whole thread and I’m seriously impressed with your work. Well done bro.

Hello BHW! In the past I used to run a bot network for 5k fake accounts capable of sending 50k DMS per day, now I want to test a new way to make the bot network, found new tools that could decrease the cost to 0.2$ per 1k DMS, I'll be clear on the setup

Plan

Running a software dev company has teach me that simplicity is the real king, I'll use a single EC2 instance (think of a virtual machine) running a custom library and a database if I have to scale it'll as easy as spinning a new instance and make an extra DB collection.

Each account will send 10 DMS per day nothing too crazy I don't want to burn accounts when that is not really the way to make DMS cost efficient, the thing that will take the biggest time is to make the automation suite strong enough.

The first thing will be taking handle of the automation suite as soon as I've an undetectable suite will run it with 100 accounts if not a single account is banned then will scale it.

Costs
- Emails
- Proxies
- AWS

Spoiler: Technical aspects

EC2 using m7g.medium using a custom puppeteer package it'll run 24/7 and it has enough power to run up to 10k accounts proxies rotating each 5mins, mongoDB to store info

Hey man. I’ve read this whole thread and I gotta say I’m impressed with your dedication. Your solutions and updates so far are sick, fair play bro. I’m trying to create almost the exact same thing by RE the private Instagram api. I’m wondering if you’d be willing to help me out a little?

I’m still at the research phase trying to figure out all the bits I need to fully understand before I begin coding. My approach is to first capture network traffic from an iPhone using proxy software on my Mac then reverse engineer the api calls and figuring out what they do. Gotta get around ssl pinning for this and understand QUIC and http3 a bit better. Any suggestions on proxy software to avoid ssl pinning? Have you managed to do it without jailbreaking? I can JB if necessary but don’t want insta to know I’m using a jail broken phone.

Also do I need to know much about encryption method and how to decrypt the headers etc?

I have proxies and aged accounts sorted for now so shouldn’t need any advice on that part.

As for coding the bot do you suggest c++ and then running the bot on an AWS ec2 instance? I’d love to use python instead of c++ but can do whatever works best. Don’t have too much experience in AWS as of right now but need to get into it anyway.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated and I wish you luck in the rest of your journey! Thanks man

 

[PhillipCharlson]

Hope You Have A Great Journey Of Building A Private Mass Network Again. Wish You Will Get Your Goal.

 

[rampzeus]

Hello!
I moved from puppeeter to reverse engineering the requests, took me a few hours as already had experience with it, you don't want to emulate phones as it requires a ton of memory to run them and a single change will break the whole process.

Saw a team trying to use selenium to automate ecommerce purchases and it was an endless fight, everyday you had something new broken or something needing manual input even tried with real devices in USA and it didn't make any sense it was a waste of money not sure if they have changed recently.

I already did reverse engineering on android app still trying iOS

Here's the guide to use proxyman to intercept android requests
https://www.alexschnabl.com/blog/ar...to-reverse-engineer-the-instagram-private-api
Using IOS will need this as a guide
https://github.com/merdw/iOS-Instagram-SSL-Pinning-Bypass

How long did it take you to switch everything from Puppeteer to requests?

Any tips on how to make it look like a real device?

 

[z3nix]

you should make something like this but for linkedin, that's where the true money is/