CHRONOTHERAPY: ACT 3

[SirLouen]

Day 4: As expected, it was extremely harsh to stay awake until 12.30pm in the first most difficult day of the process. Now I start the second most difficult day, having to stay up until 3.30pm which is also very harsh.

To have a little bit of perspective, the difficulty is not staying awake until 12.30pm or 3.30pm but doing this after a series of 3 days in a row repeating this process. If it was a one-timer it would be harsh but not THIS harsh.

At this point, like the other 2 times, I've thought like 10 times on quitting the therapy and going to bed asap. But endurance is the key. Funny enough, also exactly as the other two times, 30 minutes before going to bed, I'm awaken AF. It's like my mind wants another extra hour of laziness... NONSENSE

And another thing that repeats in this 3rd ACT: I can't understand why I'm doing this again, is making me mad. 5-6 hours before going to bed, all I have in my brain is the word sleep.

Would I recommend anyone this process? Seriously, I can't answer this with confidence. It's an extremely harsh process. Today when I woke up at 8.00pm (I woke up first at 6.00pm but I was able to go back to sleep in 4 little naps of 30 minutes) and it was burning in the room from 6pm to 8pm (now, in the middle of the summer).

What it's funny is that, after being 19 hours awaken (when the normal is 16 hours), I can't barely sleep for 6-7 hours. But the day I reach the ending point (going to bed at 12.30am, I'm sure I would be able to sleep 8 or even 9 hours straights away). Funny how weird is the sleeping processes and habits. But I hope I could keep this up for longer than the times I trialed before.

This is by now probably one of the biggest experiments on Chronotherapy we can read online, with 3 different trials at different points, paradoxically, written in a Marketing forum.

 

[SirLouen]

Day 5: Last day has been extremely harsh as expected but managed to go on and wait until the go to sleep hour.

The nice thing is that I've been able to sleep the 8 hours straight without much interruption, so now I feel f*****g on fire for the 6th day and 2 more days to go!

I'm aware that this is unusual, and generally the 6th day is as harsh as the 3rd (medium difficulty on average). So maybe I will remember a good experience from this process for the future when I think about doing this again, but for myself in the future: don't be fooled, this process is extremely harsh and there are no memories or anything good! Don't forget!

Anyway to not discouraging anyone willing to do a Chronotherapy session, the results are worth the harshness. Being able to adjust the circadian rhythm to anyone that is completely fucked up or has extreme issues to wake up early in the morning is amazing. No other processes, like lighttherapy or anything like that work as well as Chrono. It's what I call, the definitive jet-lag-reprogramming.

 

[M4DM4X]

Try melatonin mate it helps a lot with sleep

 

[GenesisOne]

I love to take a nap after dinner.
Problem solved.
Still good luck reaching your goal op.

 

[SirLouen]

Try melatonin mate it helps a lot with sleep

After 3 trials, people still don't take the issue

I have trouble waking up early, not sleeping FFS.

I go to bed at 12am? I wake up at 10am
I go to bed at 1am? I wake up at 10am
I go to bed at 2am? I wake up at 10am
I go to bed at 3am? I wake up at 10am
I go to bed at 4am? I wake up at 10am

It doesn't matter the time I go to bed, I've been waking up at 10am for almost a year.

Chronotherapy is designed to break this problem with CIRCADIAN RHYTHMS.
To restructure the circadian to put it earlier in the morning (8 AM)

Why? Because I WANT to wake up at 8AM permanentely.

Sorry for my unusual rant, but today I'm tilted AF.

I love to take a nap after dinner.

If I have a nap after dinner, I wake up 2 hours later and with a terrible headache. Not worthy.

 

[M4DM4X]

After 3 trials, people still don't take the issue

I have trouble waking up early, not sleeping FFS.

I go to bed at 12am? I wake up at 10am
I go to bed at 1am? I wake up at 10am
I go to bed at 2am? I wake up at 10am
I go to bed at 3am? I wake up at 10am
I go to bed at 4am? I wake up at 10am

It doesn't matter the time I go to bed, I've been waking up at 10am for almost a year.

Chronotherapy is designed to break this problem with CIRCADIAN RHYTHMS.
To restructure the circadian to put it earlier in the morning (8 AM)

Why? Because I WANT to wake up at 8AM permanentely.

Sorry for my unusual rant, but today I'm tilted AF.



If I have a nap after dinner, I wake up 2 hours later and with a terrible headache. Not worthy.

Mate melatonin not only make you sleep better it also regulate your inner clock and make your cycles more regular. It's totally the problem you are facing.
But do what you want, if this info is not useful to you I hope it will be for someone else. Good luck

 

[SirLouen]

Mate melatonin not only make you sleep better it also regulate your inner clock and make your cycles more regular. It's totally the problem you are facing.
But do what you want, if this info is not useful to you I hope it will be for someone else. Good luck

By default, doesn't make any sense. How a substance could regulate this?
I think the blind trust that society has in substances is pure weakness.

Just behavioural strategies are GOD-like.

I would admit the lux therapy to some extent, since it requires certain degree of behaviour and a combination or real timing factors (receiving a certain amount of light after waking up to increase the circadian restructuring).

But melatonin? Don't be fooled. It may help you sleep better but never restructure a circadian rhythm. It doesn't make any sense by any logical perspective.

 

[M4DM4X]

By default, doesn't make any sense. How a substance could regulate this?
I think the blind trust that society has in substances is pure weakness.

Just behavioural strategies are GOD-like.

I would admit the lux therapy to some extent, since it requires certain degree of behaviour and a combination or real timing factors (receiving a certain amount of light after waking up to increase the circadian restructuring).

But melatonin? Don't be fooled. It may help you sleep better but never restructure a circadian rhythm. It doesn't make any sense by any logical perspective.

It's an hormone, hormones regulate many aspects of our body.
I feel you when you say people rely on supplements to get better and I agree that's not a good thing to do, but this one is very effective and don't have any side effects, and since you struggle since a long time it could be a solution for you, at least to get things rolling.
Anyway, again, good luck whatever you do.

 

[SirLouen]

It's an hormone, hormones regulate many aspects of our body.

Yes I'm aware its an hormone.
But consider that times are not something "natural", is something cultural
So how an hormone can "know" that I'm trying to wake up exactly at 8am not at 10am?
This is why it doesn't make sense.

 

[M4DM4X]

Yes I'm aware its an hormone.
But consider that times are not something "natural", is something cultural
So how an hormone can "know" that I'm trying to wake up exactly at 8am not at 10am?
This is why it doesn't make sense.

It doesn't know, it just helps you fall asleep when you take it, then little by little you can adjust your cycles.
That's always better than taking sleeping pills.
Yep better not to take anything, but since you are struggling for a long time I was just advicing a semi natural option to you.
Another natural one is to wear orange glasses goggles a few hours before going to sleep to filter the blue light entering your eyes. Blue light doesn't help with sleep.

 

[SirLouen]

Day 6: Just on a quick note, on Day 5, I had to postpone one hour to the hour to go to bed, so I decided to pospone another hour for Day 6 and finally on Day 7 I will postpone the last 3rd hour and CUT one day of the whole process saving me one day.

Similar to other days, it's interesting than 4-6 hours before going to bed became really harsh, but 1-2 hours before, I were completely reactivated, and ready for a couple of extra hours.

The sleeping has not being the best compared to the previous day, but not bad either.

Today I will be going to bed at 12.30AM completely finally the cycle.

As a final recap, this has been the chronohours process for this 3rd trial:

Thursday 8th // 3.30am - 11.30am
Friday 9th // 6.30am - 2.30pm
Saturday 10th // 9.30am - 5.30pm
Sunday 11th // 12.30pm - 8.30pm
Monday 12th // 4.30pm - 12.30pm (+1 extra hour)
Tuesday 13th // 8.30pm - Wednesday 14th // 4.30am (+1 extra hour)
Thursday 14th // 0.30pm - 8.30am (+1 extra hour)

 

[SirLouen]

Finally, I have ended the Chronotherapy sessions, and today, as expected I've slept really well, my 8 hours (with a little wake up in the first hour of sleep for whatever reason) + the most important: I could go out of bed without issues at 8.30AM

Now is the time to keep monitoring this process to see for the next days if it has been effective enough to keep up the results.

 

[4440]

congrats dude

 

[SirLouen]

Day 1 post therapy: Went to bed at 12.45am and woke up at 8.30am like a clock.

Plain wonderful.

 

[SirLouen]

3 days after therapy I have to say that I'm starting to have difficulties on waking up at 8.30 though going to bed at 12.30am

Maybe results are fading? Not sure yet. Maybe my circadian cycle is draggin me back to his natural hour. One cannot fight against one's nature.

 

[SirLouen]

Two weeks after Chronotherapy ended:
I've been able to wake up consistently at 8.30am, even when I've been to bed at 12.45 or 12.50am.
The truth is that I feel a little tired at 8.30, and it takes me like 15 minutes to get out of bed, so I just take the phone and watch some news until I'm ready.
But still, I'm able not to turn around and put the alarm to snooze, which are definitely great and consistent results.

 

[Gogol]

Two weeks after Chronotherapy ended:
I've been able to wake up consistently at 8.30am, even when I've been to bed at 12.45 or 12.50am.
The truth is that I feel a little tired at 8.30, and it takes me like 15 minutes to get out of bed, so I just take the phone and watch some news until I'm ready.
But still, I'm able not to turn around and put the alarm to snooze, which are definitely great and consistent results.

U ok bro?

 

[crnack]

Stop this act and get some real responsibilites.
It doesn't make much sense if you just sit in your house.
You think you are the issue.
Nope, it's lack of stuff to do in the morning.
If you've had a kid, there's no way you would not wake up early.
For real.

 

[SirLouen]

U ok bro?

Sure, why?

It doesn't make much sense if you just sit in your house.

Dafuq? Define "real responsibilities" according to you.

 

[Gogol]

Sure, why?

Nah, sometimes we think we are ok but that's not what our body is going through. Not eating for consecutive days is scary, atleast for me. I thought I'd confirm.