bhcg101
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All very good tips and things I had to learn as well to cut the fat off the ads to trim them down to where they are actually performing well.
My first $160 in CPA Bing Ads
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Thanks man. I've got some work to do to rebuild a new site and then restart my amazon campaigns and see if things stay consistent with what I've seen or if my I see the ctr go down. Still working to see what I can do to get conversions without blowing through a bunch of cash on the CPA campaigns as well in the meantime.
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OP why not direct to a squeeze page to get the e-mail, then send an automatic e-mail sequence for 3 days
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The network is Maxweb.
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True, but for a beginner I would consider breaking even a huge success. Most beginners would just burn through $150 immediately, I know I would
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great start, hope to see your methods
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Like the idea. Might be something to try out as another aspect of this experiment later on. Not there yet at this point, but it does as food for thought as this journey continues to unfold.
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Plenty of folks would do the same thing and many have already even if they aren't saying it. But all in all that's okay.. we all go through the bumps and bruises of trying to make money online and if you're one of those that didn't have to, then consider yourself very very fortunate. Most of lose plenty before we make any and then again there are those that never do too.True, but for a beginner I would consider breaking even a huge success. Most beginners would just burn through $150 immediately, I know I would
To that I say.. don't give up. If you believe it's possible, then keep grinding away. No one's gonna hand you success no matter how small or big that success may be.
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12/15 - Just wanted to provide a quick update.
As some of you may know.. as of last Wednesday, I learned that I was breaking Amazon's TOS by direct linking. Thank you @dandan594594 for pointing that out to me.. so I had to revise what I was doing. I have since built a new site. No I can't share the url but I can tell you that I've built an ecommerce store now. No more direct linking.
The rep I am working with at Microsoft, provided me with some good feedback and it should also resolve the disapproved ads issue I was having on many of my campaigns linking to Amazon. While I was able to always "eventually" get them approved, it was a headache always having to call in because of the immediate disapprovals.
The positive is that the rep worked out a $200 credit in ad spend for me for my patience (that's what they told me) and letting their team work through the issues with me. So while that money is going back to future ad spend, it may as well be considered profit that I didn't have to work for this week. Even after I paused all of my campaigns I still brought in another $35 which was cool.
The new site since it's only been LIVE for 2 days hasn't brought in any new sales, but that's fine. I tend to look at it this way.. if it doesn't work, then I'll just keep tweaking things until I can find a recipe that works. "Never Give Up". I've got over 700 products added to the store and today so far I've seen 88 impressions on the site and I've set up a Bing campaign targeting 2 keywords that are the most relevant for what I'm targeting for the new site's campaign.
Get this.. it hasn't cost me a dime in ad spend yet on that campaign !
I guess people are just seeing the site and typing in the url instead ? Again there are absolutely no other advertising channels at this point and the site is only 2 days old.
Hoping for conversions.. that would be awesome especially since ad spend is at $0.. however, If I don't get any conversions I'll still continue to make some changes until I get that first conversion and go from there.
No additional CPA earnings for now but I might work that in to the new site somehow too as another section maybe ?
That's it for now.
Definitely not a total loss this week with the free $200 from Bing to use.
As some of you may know.. as of last Wednesday, I learned that I was breaking Amazon's TOS by direct linking. Thank you @dandan594594 for pointing that out to me.. so I had to revise what I was doing. I have since built a new site. No I can't share the url but I can tell you that I've built an ecommerce store now. No more direct linking.
The rep I am working with at Microsoft, provided me with some good feedback and it should also resolve the disapproved ads issue I was having on many of my campaigns linking to Amazon. While I was able to always "eventually" get them approved, it was a headache always having to call in because of the immediate disapprovals.
The positive is that the rep worked out a $200 credit in ad spend for me for my patience (that's what they told me) and letting their team work through the issues with me. So while that money is going back to future ad spend, it may as well be considered profit that I didn't have to work for this week. Even after I paused all of my campaigns I still brought in another $35 which was cool.
The new site since it's only been LIVE for 2 days hasn't brought in any new sales, but that's fine. I tend to look at it this way.. if it doesn't work, then I'll just keep tweaking things until I can find a recipe that works. "Never Give Up". I've got over 700 products added to the store and today so far I've seen 88 impressions on the site and I've set up a Bing campaign targeting 2 keywords that are the most relevant for what I'm targeting for the new site's campaign.
Get this.. it hasn't cost me a dime in ad spend yet on that campaign !
I guess people are just seeing the site and typing in the url instead ? Again there are absolutely no other advertising channels at this point and the site is only 2 days old.
Hoping for conversions.. that would be awesome especially since ad spend is at $0.. however, If I don't get any conversions I'll still continue to make some changes until I get that first conversion and go from there.
No additional CPA earnings for now but I might work that in to the new site somehow too as another section maybe ?
That's it for now.
Definitely not a total loss this week with the free $200 from Bing to use.
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Yep, that's fine. Even I've got questions about my own campaigns as well so the disclaimer here is that I'm still learning too. By no means am I super knowledgeable on this stuff but if I can answer a question for you I will try.
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I’ve had to change things because of the direct linking I was doing.
The new site is finished and now I’m running ads to it but I’m not seeing anywhere near the same level of activity or consistency. Still getting orders (not daily) but it’s like a drip now compared to the faucet like activity I was seeing before.
I went with Crowdo links for my link building and visibility strategy. Definitely expensive but I prefer the no footprint approach and I believe you get what you pay for.
May try them out for 2-3 months to see if it has an impact.
If it works, I’ll see organic traffic and I’ll continue to use paid ads to test new campaigns on products that I can add to the store.
That will likely be how I scale things up. Not solely through paid ads as this journey or experiment evolves.
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how is your amazon project progress atm
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Hey @nelida kornilova, my Amazon progress at the moment was covered in my last message. Slowed drastically since I had to change my method from DL (which I learned was against their TOS) to building a site that was in compliance with them. While I'm also sending PPC traffic there, it's not the same. Before visitors were sent directly to Amazon, now it's an additional click or two before they reach Amazon for any product.
I believe it will take some time before I see the consistency of traffic and sales I was getting before, but I'm gonna keep grinding it out and tweaking things until I get there and will scale from there. I've got a couple other ideas for how I can add some visibility but I'll be testing that out on my own to see how that goes.
However, as for my CPA campaigns, I got another sale yesterday.
3 clicks, CPC .19 Payout $80 and I'd only spent $18 of my own dollars.
I say that because Bing gave me $200 so in total spend for this month it was $34 and some change but $16 of that came from Bing's freebie they gave me. However, the campaign still hasn't been profitable yet, but the point is that at the start my ad spend was high and conversions (even though I had some) did not justify continuing the campaign the way it was currently set up. So I had to change it...
Things are slower now but the ad spend as I have mentioned before in this thread is under control now. I've increased my bid slightly to see if I can increase the volume on the campaign for the keywords that I have tracked using my tracker (let me know if you want my link for it) and we'll see over the next week if that has an impact on it at all.
I believe it will take some time before I see the consistency of traffic and sales I was getting before, but I'm gonna keep grinding it out and tweaking things until I get there and will scale from there. I've got a couple other ideas for how I can add some visibility but I'll be testing that out on my own to see how that goes.
However, as for my CPA campaigns, I got another sale yesterday.
3 clicks, CPC .19 Payout $80 and I'd only spent $18 of my own dollars.
I say that because Bing gave me $200 so in total spend for this month it was $34 and some change but $16 of that came from Bing's freebie they gave me. However, the campaign still hasn't been profitable yet, but the point is that at the start my ad spend was high and conversions (even though I had some) did not justify continuing the campaign the way it was currently set up. So I had to change it...
Things are slower now but the ad spend as I have mentioned before in this thread is under control now. I've increased my bid slightly to see if I can increase the volume on the campaign for the keywords that I have tracked using my tracker (let me know if you want my link for it) and we'll see over the next week if that has an impact on it at all.
how much did you send on ads ??
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Sorry I never answered your question, I use all three.. broad, exact and with modifier for every campaign. I don't focus on one over the other. Since you need to focus on getting data you should always use all 3 at the beginning. Cut out the ones that aren't working after you've run the campaign for a while.
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