Secure crypto-to-fiat exchanges

[Dialgon]

Hello. My company is engaged in translations and sometimes we get payments in crypto from the clients. I know numerous exchanges to convert fiat into crypto or buy crypto even with Money Gram (coinmama). But I got into trouble while seeking for secure crypto-to-fiat exchanges (sometimes we need USD), all of them require kyc. What can you advice?

 

[on1]

Local bitcoins, they are all kyc you can't anonymously convert crypto into usd. The sec is cracking down on anything unregulated.

 

[Dialgon]

Local bitcoins, they are all kyc you can't anonymously convert crypto into usd. The sec is cracking down on anything unregulated.

It can't be. Everyone talks about anonymity. I hope there is some option.

 

[dibridor]

why do you care so much about security everywhere? Do you really think that your life and your data are interesting to someone?

 

[Dialgon]

why do you care so much about security everywhere? Do you really think that your life and your data are interesting to someone?

I don't want to be an open book for anyone. I want privacy. I have this right.

 

[NulledCode]

You should probably stay off the internet then and maybe wear a tinfoil hat. You do realize that btc is not as private as you think. Sounds like you are trying to launder money.

 

[on1]

It can't be. Everyone talks about anonymity. I hope there is some option.

Sure maybe on a decentralized exchange where you can trade crypto to crypto, still not possible yet. You are asking how to fiat to crypto annoymously, that will never happen.

 

[gawdric]

As far as I know the only way to do it anonymously is to do cash transactions locally. I have done it several times in the past, it's pretty easy to find buyers / sellers locally.

 

[telim2]

To convert btc to fiat anonymously you will have to look for a trusted fellow in a third world country which as little or no regulations they will convert btc to usd and send it to you via swift. I once used a service of someone on this forum with a VCC sales thread but the fees was about 25% or so.

 

[dibridor]

I don't want to be an open book for anyone. I want privacy. I have this right.

I understand this, but this is already too much. Did you solve this problem somehow?

 

[dibridor]

You should probably stay off the internet then and maybe wear a tinfoil hat. You do realize that btc is not as private as you think. Sounds like you are trying to launder money.

haha but in fact, I believe that he is entitled to it

 

[dibridor]

Sure maybe on a decentralized exchange where you can trade crypto to crypto, still not possible yet. You are asking how to fiat to crypto annoymously, that will never happen.

Why do you think so?

 

[dibridor]

To convert btc to fiat anonymously you will have to look for a trusted fellow in a third world country which as little or no regulations they will convert btc to usd and send it to you via swift. I once used a service of someone on this forum with a VCC sales thread but the fees was about 25% or so.

Why in the third world country?

 

[Prensty]

Maybe one day there will be something like that but for now I don't think it's possible. You have to withdraw it somehow and for that reason you have to use your credit card or web money or PayPal which are all not anonymous.

 

[aldo08]

Buy for cash. Try localbitcoins to find an offer

 

[CryptoBlake]

Kyc is also good to secure your trading funds.

 

[-Sylar-]

If you are not sure from where they come, you can "mix" them with clean crypto. Just search on google "bitcoin mixer".

After that, you can always use a special Virtual Bank with real or virtual Credit card that you can fund with bitcoins and then use your card with paypal for example, to transfer it to your bank account

 

[-Sylar-]

I almost forget! Because it's a real plastic credit card, you can withdraw bitcoins at ATM

 

[dejanlesi]

https://payfair.io/ is like local bitcoins but doesn't need KYC... Might be something that works for you

 

[Dialgon]

You should probably stay off the internet then and maybe wear a tinfoil hat. You do realize that btc is not as private as you think. Sounds like you are trying to launder money.

Don't judge by yourself.

Sure maybe on a decentralized exchange where you can trade crypto to crypto, still not possible yet. You are asking how to fiat to crypto annoymously, that will never happen.

Why not?

As far as I know the only way to do it anonymously is to do cash transactions locally. I have done it several times in the past, it's pretty easy to find buyers / sellers locally.

It's not always a convenient way. Thanks.

To convert btc to fiat anonymously you will have to look for a trusted fellow in a third world country which as little or no regulations they will convert btc to usd and send it to you via swift. I once used a service of someone on this forum with a VCC sales thread but the fees was about 25% or so.

It's too much loss. I don't think it will be profitable. Thanks.

I understand this, but this is already too much. Did you solve this problem somehow?

I'm still looking for a solution to this problem.

haha but in fact, I believe that he is entitled to it

Yes, I think so.

Maybe one day there will be something like that but for now I don't think it's possible. You have to withdraw it somehow and for that reason you have to use your credit card or web money or PayPal which are all not anonymous.

I hope I can find such way.

Buy for cash. Try localbitcoins to find an offer

Thanks, it's good idea.

Kyc is also good to secure your trading funds.

I don't think so.

If you are not sure from where they come, you can "mix" them with clean crypto. Just search on google "bitcoin mixer".

After that, you can always use a special Virtual Bank with real or virtual Credit card that you can fund with bitcoins and then use your card with paypal for example, to transfer it to your bank account

Good way. I'll try it.

I almost forget! Because it's a real plastic credit card, you can withdraw bitcoins at ATM

Oh, really?

https://payfair.io/ is like local bitcoins but doesn't need KYC... Might be something that works for you

Thanks, I'll try it too.