Clayton + Mystery Income Coaching

[gross100]

Seeing how my last post was edited, and my most recent post that explained why I was given access was not posted I suppose I am fighting a losing battle.

I want to clear something up one more time, I am not associated with Clayton in launching this club. I am a potential member that is it. I had no idea that we joined that close to each other, but I am not him, and did not join forces with him at any point in order to trick or deceive anyone here.

I was asked to preview this club and was given temporary access for 2 days. In these two days Clayton asked me how I like the interface, the course layout, the resources, the material, videos, and everything else. After I gave my 2cents I no longer had access.

Yes I saw the inside of the club, and that is all I can say.
- Jeff

 

[havokb8]

We heard you the first time, but it doesnt matter or explain anything so u can stop talking about it

 

[nitin22]

I am smelling something very fishy now. I hate to do this, but in interest of not people falling in trap of a scam, I have to ask a few pointed questions.
Gross100 even though joined in Feb 2008, but his actual activity started on April 1, 2008 Clayton's activity on this forum started on April 4, 2008. Too close coincidence.
Next doubt and its a BIG one. On date 22 April Gross100 wrote in a post where he gave a sneak preview of Clayton's Club:
Below is specific quote from Gross100 post
"
A while ago, I had a question posted on this forum. Clayton was kind enough to provide me with some excellent insight into the nature of the work I was trying to accomplish. After receiving this help from Clayton I continued to have the pleasure of interacting with him. From experience I can say that he is a no bullshit, straight to the point, patient, and most importantly honest individual. He took more time out of his day to answer even the most simple of questions than anyone else I have met since starting in the IM world. Even during this incredibly busy time for him he has still taken the time to help me out. Just take a look at this thread, his responses are personalized, well written, and in my opinion 100% sincere and accurate.
"
I checked all posts of Gross100 (he hardly has a few posts on this forum). I do not see any post of Gross100, where Clayton helped him. As a matter of fact the first public interaction of Clayton / Gross100 I see is in the Clayton post of Mystery club. In this post Gross100 crossed all limits in praising Clayton and His work.

So I do not see any evidence of Clayton supporting and helping Gross100 (as claimed by Gross100 the sole reason of their friendship).

I do understand that there is a little possibility of Gross100 posting a question in public forum and Clayton responding in private message only, but with my experience and reading most of the Clayton's post, he does not seem like a guy who loves secrecy.

Also analyzing Clayton's post, I do see a few people doing favorable response to Clayton. To me it seem very fishy why Clayton does not give a preview chance to those nubes with whom he contacts in public. Instead review and all defence is being done by a nube, with whom there is no record of public conversation. To make matter worse the guy is claiming friendship with Clayton as he is claiming Clayton to be helping him all the time in this forum.

To me all this sound very scammy and fishy now.

 

[Professor]

A little sad but hey, I'll be a man and admit to it when I'm wrong ... bitches!

I spoke with Clayton a few times on AIM, I asked him why he'd give access to a newb but not to a mod/admin, which he took defense to. Makes you wonder (consider his marketing efforts of trying to sell his service and taking the trouble to create threads and to answer consistently) why he wouldn't want to continue to properly market his product and give an admin access, if there's one thing he could've possibly done to gain more credibility and thus, sell his mentorship, it would be access for an admin.

Instead, he's killed his reputation here and suppose he does come through with his program, I'm not entirely sure he could even find 100 heads here to join.... then again, I might be wrong ... we're surrounded by ultimate ninja leechers.

 

[enovator]

Harro, I am glad you care so much about the member of this forums. Thanks


PS: (To all dp minded) For God's sake dont try to make this forum another DP.

 

[Essential Clix]

gross100 - why not provide an admin with your username/login? Let us take a look.

 

[battman323]

EC has a VERY good point there.

If you really have access, give it up and you'll be "acquitted" from any accusations

 

[caretaker2007]

He thought ahead on that. After helping out Clayton he lost his access.
Gross could also tell us exactly what was in there, but refrains, no that Clayton is pretty much ruined here. Why?

 

[Tofast4u]

smells like fish. looks like scam. so i guess it is

 

[gross100]

Ok, I'll try to publicly defend myself once again. I no longer have access to this coaching club. I am waiting, like everyone else, for the release date. I told everyone here that I was given access to assess the look and feel and the initial release of content.

When I previewed the club, there was no intent on my part to rub it in anyones face, or say haha I got access and no one else did. The way I saw it I was doing Clayton a favor by giving him the opinion of a potential member. As for the conspiracy bullshit...why is it not possible for two members of this forum to send one or two PM's and continue their social interactions on another platform... in this case AIM.

As for this quote:

"I do understand that there is a little possibility of Gross100 posting a question in public forum and Clayton responding in private message only, but with my experience and reading most of the Clayton's post, he does not seem like a guy who loves secrecy."

Making an assumption that someone does or doesn't like secrecy is kind of foolish. I do not know how much Clayton likes privacy, but using this as your primary argument is actually pretty ridiculous. Yes, I have very few posts, as I joined only a few month ago, and yes I praised Clayton because he stood out in the crowd and spoke to me outside of forum interactions. If I had more posts at this juncture, I feel that most of them would have been worthless filler bullshit, and I do not feel that the number of posts makes much of a difference.

While I am here I will also praise another member who went out of the way to help me... BoomBoomer. You can investigate posts and such, and might not find much interaction between us, but he helped me via gmail. Why can't this happen?

Let me just set this record straight...I am nothing more than a future member of this coaching club. I happen to speak to the creator, but the creator and I aren't conspiring to scam or dupe anyone. If you have any further arguments you would like to bring up I'd be more than happy to answer them in length.

All the best,
Jeff

 

[havokb8]

Harro, I am glad you care so much about the member of this forums. Thanks


PS: (To all dp minded) For God's sake dont try to make this forum another DP.

Im the persistant asshole that wouldnt drop this haha

 

[AnImALmoTheR]

HI Clayton, ohh sorry i mean JEFF.. Ahahhaahaaa ok, but you seriously have to stop thinking that we all are a bunch of kids.. the forum moderators deserve a little more respect than that..

and i did now you whare a scam, hahahaaa ask Smitty! i pm him last week about you...

ps
i think you find bigger success in scaming old ladies, YOU GIGOLO!

 

[gross100]

rakelspektakel,

I don't think members of this forum are kids....as you can tell (I hope) from reading my posts, I write like an adult for other adults... So let's calm down with this one.

You spoke to Smitty? What is that supposed to mean? I just spoke to Smitty as well and your story doesn't jive pal. Anyway, please let's stop the bullshit. I am not Clayton, I am from NY and I have been repeating my name in just about every post. Come on man, the only thing childish said in this thread is what you just posted.

To everyone else, I look forward to moving past this and working with you all in the future.

Best Regards,
JEFF

 

[havokb8]

I think we can move past it if u stop talking about it

 

[idk12]

well at first this coaching club looked legit.

until the the admins and mods came in (thank god we have them). and really exposed this.

I really don't understand why he wont give an admin or mod a login but either way there is no way i am buying this without a review from a staff member.

Thanx again BHW staff (saved me from a potential scam.)

 

[AnImALmoTheR]

You spoke to Smitty? What is that supposed to mean? I just spoke to Smitty as well and your story doesn't jive pal.

Ahhh obvious you did... you se, now i know you lie. stupid, you know that the moderators can go in and look at your/mine pm's so, now they also know you are a liar, and a relly bad one...

good luck with everything, cuz you need it.

 

[AnImALmoTheR]

 

[Smitty]

Jesus, I leave for five minutes....


Ok I spoke with rakel about a week ago and he said he found that previous salespage regarding the mystery income.

I told him we may want to look into that. I contacted Clayton and he explained the reason as he said he purchased the domain from a previous business contact.

I contacted Jeff today, telling him not to worry about this whole ordeal. And that this thing will all blow over, because he is being accused of many things here.

Personally I believe Clayton is offering something genuine. After hearing a respected member saying that he really knows his stuff I'm thinking Clayton is legit. But the whole deal with not giving up the review login is a bit screwy.

Who knows, we will see soon enough.




@ Rakel.... chill dude.

 

[oscarslater]

hey smitty

any chance we can see more of that 'client' you have on your knee there

it will lighten up this thread a bit

os...

 

[nitin22]

OK Guys, so far things are not turning out good the way they should be in a bootcamp. Missing deadlines, shady promotional tricks, shady defending tricks, shady spammy tricks. To me shit has really hit the fan. There has been so much of drama so far and personally I am very skeptical about all this. I don't want to argue more about it and don't want to create stone throwing contest. But I must say I am hugely disappointed with all this. For me, I am out of the shit now.