[Instagram] Chapter 2 - Getting to $500/day

[fyrizon]

Are you doing ogads or which platform to drive in incentives ?

Yes I am using OGads and have actually been sending some traffic to other networks as well to test CVR.

I'd like to refrain from discussing what I use as incentives as It is the bread and butter of my operation.

 

[fyrizon]

that was my main hang up with instagram cpa. it's blackhat so the ban rate is expected. instagram does not approve of what's happening so the environment is a constant effort to outrun bans and security. this caused me to switch to something 100% whitehat like reselling. i get hit with a lot of fees for selling on amazon but its the price i pay to gain exposure

Yeah, I definitely agree with you on that one. It took me months to figure out how to avoid detection and reduce my ban ratio down to what it is right now. Who knows, maybe it might go up in the coming months. We will see.... The reason I see this working is because there's plenty of people already spamming on IG. Those same people are making anywhere from $5 a day to $100 a day and I know for a fact there's thousands of them. IG traffic to content lockers can easily net millions of dollars a year if you take all the revenue generated from these popular CPA networks combined. All I ask is for a tiny $100,000 fraction of that yearly revenue. There's 700 million accounts on Instagram, lets say just 1% of those fill out a silly 10c content locker. That's already $700,000 worth of revenue.

 

[tux]

$300 for 10 Dedicated servers

i7-7700 3.6ghz
32gb ram
500gb ssd

I think I got a pretty reasonable deal considering I'm not paying for windows on them otherwise the cost could easily be double that.

Some people easily pay the same price I'm paying for a "quality" VPS with windows installed.

dude you are using 10 vpses not dedicated server. You are somehow mistaken. If that config costs $30 that its not dedi. I'll repeat myself again for $100-120 you can get a dedicated server that can run 2k accounts no matter how shitty your current bot is in terms of usage. Windows install is mostly free if your provider has kvm over ip

 

[fyrizon]

dude you are using 10 vpses not dedicated server. You are somehow mistaken. If that config costs $30 that its not dedi. I'll repeat myself again for $100-120 you can get a dedicated server that can run 2k accounts no matter how shitty your current bot is in terms of usage. Windows install is mostly free if your provider has kvm over ip

I bid on linux servers at an auction, that's the only reason I'm able to pay such a low price. Yes you are right, the average dedicated server with windows will cost $100+ however those are from smaller providers that lease racks at data centers. I'm quite confident the dedicated servers I have can run over 1,000 accounts but I rather pay that extra $$$ for stability and consistent performance, consider it a little insurance policy.

https://www.hetzner.com/sb

 

[netalgo122]

And I'm sitting there with my 3 accounts haha!
Good job dude!

 

[PBNSurprise]

Yeah, I definitely agree with you on that one. It took me months to figure out how to avoid detection and reduce my ban ratio down to what it is right now. Who knows, maybe it might go up in the coming months. We will see.... The reason I see this working is because there's plenty of people already spamming on IG. Those same people are making anywhere from $5 a day to $100 a day and I know for a fact there's thousands of them. IG traffic to content lockers can easily net millions of dollars a year if you take all the revenue generated from these popular CPA networks combined. All I ask is for a tiny $100,000 fraction of that yearly revenue. There's 700 million accounts on Instagram, lets say just 1% of those fill out a silly 10c content locker. That's already $700,000 worth of revenue.

ig spam will make you money quick, the issue is stability. i thought i would be able to cruise on my set up for months on end, until ig updated and security tightened. with that being said i feel that ig security will always keep tightening and one needs to keep innovating and tweaking to be able to continue. it takes a lot of resilience to turn ig spam into a long term reliable method. however, it is very good in terms of making money short term. milk as much money as possible for the first handful of months and then reinvest that into something sustainable and whitehat. whitehat as in you are working with the platform that you are advertising with so they see no reason to ban you or kick you off

 

[fyrizon]

ig spam will make you money quick, the issue is stability. i thought i would be able to cruise on my set up for months on end, until ig updated and security tightened. with that being said i feel that ig security will always keep tightening and one needs to keep innovating and tweaking to be able to continue. it takes a lot of resilience to turn ig spam into a long term reliable method. however, it is very good in terms of making money short term. milk as much money as possible for the first handful of months and then reinvest that into something sustainable and whitehat. whitehat as in you are working with the platform that you are advertising with so they see no reason to ban you or kick you off

I already have whitehat projects that generate revenue with little to no maintenance. That being said, I'm not here to discuss the merits of whitehat or blackhat methods. I'm here to discuss how we can all evolve and still earn from Instagram despite how people say the method is "dead", "saturated", or "too hard".

A little food for thought.

 

[fyrizon]

And I'm sitting there with my 3 accounts haha!
Good job dude!

Don't worry, we all have to start somewhere. I started with just 15 accounts myself

 

[tux]

I bid on linux servers at an auction, that's the only reason I'm able to pay such a low price. Yes you are right, the average dedicated server with windows will cost $100+ however those are from smaller providers that lease racks at data centers. I'm quite confident the dedicated servers I have can run over 1,000 accounts but I rather pay that extra $$$ for stability and consistent performance, consider it a little insurance policy.

https://www.hetzner.com/sb

I buy servers from hetzner myself , get an amd ryzen dude. It's enough juice for you. You still do KVM over ip for windows though right or do you use Lara console ? I'd be jealous if your bot runs on linux

 

[BoostChef]

Damn dude! This is insane!!
All the best for your journey
Will be following this one

 

[netalgo122]

Don't worry, we all have to start somewhere. I started with just 15 accounts myself

That's right for sure! Do you think I can make some money with 3 good accounts?

 

[fyrizon]

I buy servers from hetzner myself , get an amd ryzen dude. It's enough juice for you. You still do KVM over ip for windows though right or do you use Lara console ? I'd be jealous if your bot runs on linux

KVM. Yes I'd be jealous of me too if my bots ran on linux LOL

Will give the ryzen a try later on once I hit my next earnings target. At this point I feel I have sufficient resources to hit $500 already (I may be wrong)

Damn dude! This is insane!!
All the best for your journey
Will be following this one

Thank you!

That's right for sure! Do you think I can make some money with 3 good accounts?

It wouldn't hurt to try, there are plenty of ways to monetize accounts on IG.

 

[mindeswx]

Cool journey , love it!
a couple of things that interest me -
Are you using real sim cards?
Are your proxies from a provider or own vps ipv4?
What type of TDLS are you using? Also , all domains pointing to those few hostings without cloudflare or a cloaker?

 

[inajiffy]

Following this. It's always inspirational to see folks doing well with it. I'm on my own IG+CPA journey facing abysmally low CVR.

 

[dolomite310]

@fyrizon have you thought about simply taking each of your accounts to the maximum follow/unfollow number of 7000 and just stopping? I say this because I did this with only 40 accounts and even though half of them got banned I still have at least 20 bringing me over $100 per month. I haven't touched any of the accounts or followliker since January and they are still bringing money. I also know how much it can cost and how time consuming it can be as the most accounts I'd managed at one time was just north of 200.

 

[fyrizon]

Cool journey , love it!
a couple of things that interest me -
Are you using real sim cards?
Are your proxies from a provider or own vps ipv4?
What type of TDLS are you using? Also , all domains pointing to those few hostings without cloudflare or a cloaker?

No real sims here, genuine personal US sims would offset the cost way too much.

I am using proxies from a private provider who only uses them for Instagram related activities masked by normal user activity. Yes, I am paying a premium for them.

I use any TLDs I can get my hands on. I've found that things work out best when its all a 1:1 ratio even without a cloaker. I've tried cloakers before, did not work well but to be fair at this was at an early stage of my operation. It was likely that the proxies were the issue at the time which caused massive bans. A cloaker however would definitely be beneficial if you want to add in those extra costs.

Following this. It's always inspirational to see folks doing well with it. I'm on my own IG+CPA journey facing abysmally low CVR.

Thanks man! I feel your pain when it comes to that CVR...

@fyrizon have you thought about simply taking each of your accounts to the maximum follow/unfollow number of 7000 and just stopping? I say this because I did this with only 40 accounts and even though half of them got banned I still have at least 20 bringing me over $100 per month. I haven't touched any of the accounts or followliker since January and they are still bringing money. I also know how much it can cost and how time consuming it can be as the most accounts I'd managed at one time was just north of 200.

I've done that before and have to say keeping your followings under 2000 makes a noticeable difference in follow back ratio (and ultimately traffic). If you could get those accounts up to 100 you could easily make $500/month. Why stop at just $100?

 

[dolomite310]

@fyrizon I'm not sure where you are but in the states logistically speaking it can be a nightmare from the PVA perspective alone. I got really tired of trying to find new alternatives and at one time had dozens of sim cards and it just wasn't making much sense because even the real sim cards I had weren't going through anymore. If you have a good solution to that please let me know know through a DM and I could gladly let you know what worked for me so that you can better capitalize on what you have and are going to have.

 

[fyrizon]

@fyrizon I'm not sure where you are but in the states logistically speaking it can be a nightmare from the PVA perspective alone. I got really tired of trying to find new alternatives and at one time had dozens of sim cards and it just wasn't making much sense because even the real sim cards I had weren't going through anymore. If you have a good solution to that please let me know know through a DM and I could gladly let you know what worked for me so that you can better capitalize on what you have and are going to have.

I'm in the states. I've been DMed numerous times already about dealing with PVs since I started this thread yesterday. My only does phone numbers at a certain volume most people aren't willing to pay. However, I'll see if I can convince him to provide his service to you guys as well. Feel free to DM me if you have questions regarding PVs.

 

[fyrizon]

9/3/17 Update

With an hour and a half left in the day, it should close at $130 as usual - More clicks, more conversions, less payout, what a day LOL

Added another 100 accounts to a couple niches I've been testing. Hopefully we'll see some gains in the following days. Trying to hit a constant $150+ daily.

One of the niches I'm running just took a giant dip in traffic, might have some funny business going on with the follow sources, will have to check some stats and see if I can implement a fix

 

[SEO FOX]

Good luck on journey, Looking for more updates.