BHW USER: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/904795-ringmogul.html
BHW Thread: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/other-affiliate-programs/561726-pay-per-call-tracking-issue.html#post8249019
I was looking for more cap on a pay-per-call offer. I found BHW user: RingMogul at the above referenced thread claiming to have lots of available cap.
Long story short... First started working with them on a daily-pay basis. First 2 days were rocky with them not understanding the very basics of pay-per-call offers and how concurrent calls work. That should have been my first red flag. Then my "daily pay" was delayed by 9 days (proof below) while they said they were having issues with their buyers. This should have been my second red flag.
Finally after they paid up, they liked my traffic and wanted a lot more but due to the previous issues I demanded a prepay. They offered to go deposit money directly into my account at the bank so it would be an instant deposit. After the deposit was made, they urged me to start traffic immediately as they had call centers waiting on my traffic. I logged into my bank online and confirmed "Teller Deposit" appeared and assumed the pre-pay was completed and sent over $7,100 worth of traffic.
A few days later they went to make another pre-pay at my bank, after I was unable to confirm online he said that he deposited it into the wrong account and would resend via ACH (proof below). A week later a check arrived for $2,000 from a bill pay service in which when I deposited into my account I immediately got a warning that the check was likely going to be rejected due to fraud.... thus I didn't send traffic on this final $2,000 since I knew something was up.
A day after the above issue, I get a letter from my bank saying that $7,100 in deposits were returned as "Non Sufficient Funds" (proof below). Here I already sent the traffic for this $7100 and thought it was a cash deposit because nothing online indicated it was a check (in which I likely would have waited a week for it to clear)..... thus I am basically screwed. Luckily I was alerted about the $2,000 fraud check (proof below) before I sent traffic on that deposit.
So lesson learned here. When someone claims to do a direct deposit into your account at the bank CALL the bank and ask if the deposit was in cash or via a check....etc. Had I done this, I likely would not have fallen victim to this scam as I would have waited for the check to clear.
Of course Ring Mogul kept saying "I'm at dinner, will check on this later" for days, then suddenly blocked me from Skype. Point being, do NOT do business with these scammers.
Skype Chat Screenshots:
http://i.imgur.com/e4hVFPG.png (Easing my mind that he is a long term player lol)
http://i.imgur.com/0FBMXqa.png (Pretends PayPal isn't working)
http://i.imgur.com/UfPGWDB.png (9 days late on my "daily pay")
http://i.imgur.com/pdzIe5c.png (Deposited a bad check)
http://i.imgur.com/WImRfL7.png (Another bad check deposit)
http://i.imgur.com/FXrdZYg.png (Another fraud deposit and rush to send traffic before check bounces)
http://i.imgur.com/ryaTunS.png (Another "wrong account" deposit)
http://i.imgur.com/6aqxMhv.png (My bank warning me about the bad check)
http://i.imgur.com/2eEDMu7.png (Fraud Exposed)
http://i.imgur.com/omDq22K.png (Proof the Checks Bounced)
http://i.imgur.com/UKZrL0f.png (Confronting the fraud)[/QUOTE]
BHW Thread: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/other-affiliate-programs/561726-pay-per-call-tracking-issue.html#post8249019
I was looking for more cap on a pay-per-call offer. I found BHW user: RingMogul at the above referenced thread claiming to have lots of available cap.
Long story short... First started working with them on a daily-pay basis. First 2 days were rocky with them not understanding the very basics of pay-per-call offers and how concurrent calls work. That should have been my first red flag. Then my "daily pay" was delayed by 9 days (proof below) while they said they were having issues with their buyers. This should have been my second red flag.
Finally after they paid up, they liked my traffic and wanted a lot more but due to the previous issues I demanded a prepay. They offered to go deposit money directly into my account at the bank so it would be an instant deposit. After the deposit was made, they urged me to start traffic immediately as they had call centers waiting on my traffic. I logged into my bank online and confirmed "Teller Deposit" appeared and assumed the pre-pay was completed and sent over $7,100 worth of traffic.
A few days later they went to make another pre-pay at my bank, after I was unable to confirm online he said that he deposited it into the wrong account and would resend via ACH (proof below). A week later a check arrived for $2,000 from a bill pay service in which when I deposited into my account I immediately got a warning that the check was likely going to be rejected due to fraud.... thus I didn't send traffic on this final $2,000 since I knew something was up.
A day after the above issue, I get a letter from my bank saying that $7,100 in deposits were returned as "Non Sufficient Funds" (proof below). Here I already sent the traffic for this $7100 and thought it was a cash deposit because nothing online indicated it was a check (in which I likely would have waited a week for it to clear)..... thus I am basically screwed. Luckily I was alerted about the $2,000 fraud check (proof below) before I sent traffic on that deposit.
So lesson learned here. When someone claims to do a direct deposit into your account at the bank CALL the bank and ask if the deposit was in cash or via a check....etc. Had I done this, I likely would not have fallen victim to this scam as I would have waited for the check to clear.
Of course Ring Mogul kept saying "I'm at dinner, will check on this later" for days, then suddenly blocked me from Skype. Point being, do NOT do business with these scammers.
Skype Chat Screenshots:
http://i.imgur.com/e4hVFPG.png (Easing my mind that he is a long term player lol)
http://i.imgur.com/0FBMXqa.png (Pretends PayPal isn't working)
http://i.imgur.com/UfPGWDB.png (9 days late on my "daily pay")
http://i.imgur.com/pdzIe5c.png (Deposited a bad check)
http://i.imgur.com/WImRfL7.png (Another bad check deposit)
http://i.imgur.com/FXrdZYg.png (Another fraud deposit and rush to send traffic before check bounces)
http://i.imgur.com/ryaTunS.png (Another "wrong account" deposit)
http://i.imgur.com/6aqxMhv.png (My bank warning me about the bad check)
http://i.imgur.com/2eEDMu7.png (Fraud Exposed)
http://i.imgur.com/omDq22K.png (Proof the Checks Bounced)
http://i.imgur.com/UKZrL0f.png (Confronting the fraud)[/QUOTE]
