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Stop selling yourself short on recurring income..

Discussion in 'Offline Marketing' started by Ysrayl, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. Ysrayl

    Ysrayl Registered Member

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    First off, I've been drinking. Ok...

    Recently, I've noticed a lot of fliggas (offline n*ggas) saying they charge $x,xxx for x amount of months for the initial startup/loading phase and then reduce the price to $xxx per month for maintenance. What I have to say to you gentlemen is:

    STOP SELLING YOURSELF SHORT

    These fools NEED you. Why would you appease to them and lower the cost because of "maintenance"? WHAT THE FUCK do they know of your work? If you charge $x,xxx for the first month, you need to charge $x,xxx for EVERY month. Letting these business owners "come up" off of some petty $$ is ridiculous. You need to take vacations to Viet Nam, Brazil, Budapest, Thailand, and Costa Rica. Unless these clients can add an inch or two to your dick, don't give them the deal of a lifetime. The first month of service should be the same as every other month of service. And if you change your price, you BEST be RAISING it instead of DROPPING it. Like, once you get them to position x in Google, raise the price to $x,xxx/monthly.

    If you don't agree with me, you're dumb. And if you have a girlfriend who knows you drop the price after x amount of months, she's dumb too. If you're this dumb, you probably allow her to mooch off of you without her sucking your dick as much as you need her to.

    Stop being a beta phaggot. Rise like the blood pressure of a "black" woman eating pork every day of her life. Be an alpha male and get what you DESERVE... $$$

    Disclaimer: If you are selling yourself short, it's your own fault. Money Talks.

    P.S. Watch Glengarry Glen Ross. Alec Baldwin said in that flick, "A.B.C. Always Be Closing". Constantly scale up and up. You need paper to blow so you can spit game to these hoes.

    I apologize to the Caucasians for my use of slang, most notably the word, "nigga". I know how uncomfortable you guys get reading/hearing it hahaha. I also apologize for my lack of the use of exclamation points. I feel a nigga's (my) IQ is too high to need such a thing to get the point across.

    In all seriousness, though: Put yourself first. Fuck these people who say you're too expensive. They're usually the biggest pains in the ass as clients.

    Ysrayl
     
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  2. @shelton_sellers

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    I would have to say that although the point may be valid, this is one of the most obnoxious and belligerent posts I have ever seen.
     
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  3. Cas87

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    I think your confused about the word 'Nigga' ... i can't speak for every Caucasian, but i'm not uncomfortable by reading/hearing it lol
     
  4. VinBed

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    Setup fees are almost always overall more expensive, which is natural if there's a lot of labor that goes into the initial setup.

    I disagree with you, you're going to have clients arguing against a high monthly retainer if you're doing less than your initial work. It of course depends on the services you are providing, but with something like PPC management for example, the initial stage is relatively labor intensive.

    If clients are going to look at your fees and the fees of any of your competitors in a space, you won't get very many clients if you can't justify your higher fee. I think what's most important is charging a fee that maintains a satisfying return after you pay your workforce - something that is scalable.

    Since you're in here dispensing advice and information, how much money do you make per month from client services?
     
  5. thejake

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    Mods please sticky this and make OP superexecutive ultra VIP mega moderator.
     
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  6. littlewebdragon

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    Hey don't be to harsh to the guy, actually he is absolutely right about this:

    This is correct. And I must say in business, offline or online, whenever I've sold my services cheap I've been treated that way, whenever I said high price, I've been treated classy and expensive...

    There is truth in that...

    Think about it simply, there are ton's of threads about reselling Fiverr services... When some guy buys Fiverr service he feels like crap for paying $5 for like 20 PR links, when he pays $35 at reseller he will appreciate much more that guy then the fiverr guy who actually did the job.

    Don't say it's not like that, because it is.
     
  7. Ysrayl

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    Whoever has a problem with what I said here will always be one of their clients' bitches. I hope they know that hahahaha :)

    Thanks, man
     
  8. Ysrayl

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    You know the deal. It's called "perceived value".
     
  9. Ysrayl

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    Maybe it's just caucasian GIRLS that feel uncomfortable. I really don't know too many guys.
     
  10. Ysrayl

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    I charge $750 to $1500 for retainer/set-up fees PLUS anywhere from $1800 to $3200 for the first month and every month afterwards, unless I raise the price once I get them to position #1. So I get anywhere from $2550 to $4700 UP FRONT.

    Don't play yourself, padawan.
     
  11. Getwhatchuwant

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    OP may not be the most eloquent but he is spot on.

    So many threads of guys busting ass to get a client on to charge $200-$300 p month for seo and then the client breaks your balls all month.

    Even as a total rookie to SEO my cheapest clients were $1250/p month and even THAT was cheap IMO compared to what they could earn. Its not about price, its about VALUE. If you can really rank them they will make WAY more that the measly couple thousand you are charging them a month, depending on the niche of course.
     
  12. BrandonTillman

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    Spot on thread LMAO LBVS. I Approve This Message!!!
     
  13. ferma231

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    You have been drinking too much i guess
     
  14. Ysrayl

    Ysrayl Registered Member

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    You're underpaying yourself , I guess.
     
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    dude who cares if these whack ass bitches underpay themselves. more for you
     
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    I want my 45 seconds of my life back.
     
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  17. leeshoes

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    Good advice. Got bad reactions because your tone tells us you're a little pissed off. But thats a good sign because it means youve been working hard!
     
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    This is some WSO quality if I ever saw WSO quality.

    Your going places ;)
     
  19. Ysrayl

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    I hope you guys take my advice. I had 5 beta faggots negative rep me for trying to help you.

    I forgive the guys who neg-repped me. I don't completely get it, but I forgive them.
     
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    We work for our clients not the other way around :rolleyes:
     
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