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SEDemon - SENuke rip off?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by DHSellerUK, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. DHSellerUK

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    Hey guys,

    I've seen SEDemon poking out of the shadows over the last month or so (especially their prevalent ad above this very post, on the right with a rather random picture of Matt Cutts..)
    I watched the intro video and it just seemed to be a complete rip of the SENuke framework (atleast the images senuke use were the same) except with less functionality at a lesser price.

    I've been a fan of SENuke for the past 3 years and have even remember the video module ;)

    If anyone has any feedback for me on SEDemon I'd maybe give it a try but it's only $50 cheaper then SENuke with a load less modules..
     
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    I think the word you're looking for is "competitor," not "rip-off." It's made by a stand up member of this forum, and he seems to back his products, so it is worth keeping an eye on. As for pricing, where did you find out how much it cost? I didn't see that on any threads or the site.
     
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  3. myownhero

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    If SEDemon allows custom scripts to process in sockets and doesn't have a million memory leaks then it won't just compete, it'll win.
     
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    hinted at that it'll be 97a month
     
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    +1. All of his tools and software are amazing and they work.
     
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    It's gonna be a joke. Sorry clyde :) ;)
     
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    Look like a good competitor. One guy even asked Matt Cuts about SE demon..lol see his reply

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    That pic link is pointing to this

     
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    Amazing ahha
     
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    LOL, that bloody bastard probably used and same background color, not just same images!

    Come on man... You judge by the icons?
     
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    It's all about how many sites it can post to and how often he refreshes that list. If it has a respectable number of sites and he rotates them out so Google doesn't rape him then it'll be a SEXYDemon. But if he thinks just because it has a wizard that looks like SEN then it'll just be another SEMENDemon.
     
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    If it's cheaper than SEnuke and has a few more options or even the same amount of options as SEnuke... Then it's a win in my book who gives a shit, If it was a complete rip of the framework don't you think the owner would have the SEnuke team knocking at his door already?

    It's also backed by a reputable member on this forum so it's all good ;)

    P.S- It's a relatively new tool to the SEO industry so give it time and you'll see the name everywhere.
     
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  12. DHSellerUK

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    ahiddenman -

    That's the thing, at the moment it has a smaller number of "options" i prefer "modules" by about half so far..

    And from what I've seen it doesn't have any services to do with Articles, Press Releases, Indexing, Social Bookmarking, PDFs, RSS Feeds or WordPress integration - Overall in my opinion it looks pretty like SENuke for 50 bucks less with 1/3 of the modules and no proper proof that it even works on it's own domain..
     
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    If matt Cutts notices it's gone be a problem lol :D

    And it will be competing not RIP OFF because Senuke team are matured like Scrapebox team so it's not easy to out them out of the game ;)

    BTW: Just kidding :p
     
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    Yes I understand but all software that's still in it's early day's won't have lot's of features.. SEnuke has been around for years so the dev team have added more and more features over that period of time.

    You need to support software creator's by sticking with them because in time they add in more features and modules, and I think this software will grow even more once the dev team start adding more features :)
     
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    Either you have access to the beta and insider knowledge of pricing and if you have then you should not be blabbing about it on
    here just now. But if you don't and you are only basing these assumptions on a video snippet, then I would hold
    fire on the wild assumptions until the software is actually here. From what I have seen in the video, yes it looks a
    tad like Senuke but thats all your seeing and how many other softwares use the same or are trying to implement the same
    diagram designers.

    Lets just wait and see what the software actually is and what it does and costs
     
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    I agree with this. But it was quoted he said the price would be around $97/m as a starting price point? Clyde's tools have been excellent up to this point and I hope SEDemon succeeds, but we already have big players out there for cheaper than that. Ultimate Demon and Magic Submitter are both cheaper and have a tons of options, platforms.

    If you are going to come out at a $97/m price point to start, than your program better be on par with those 2 at the very least. The market is still open for a True All-In-One software. All these software's out now UD, SENuke, MS are great programs, but they all fail on some level, The main fail being WEB 2.0 sites. WEB 2.0's are what most people are paying a monthly for when they buy these software's, they should be fixed/replaced atleast once a week. The SENuke creators have no excuse for not keeping atleast 50-60 WEB 2.0 Sites updated for what they are charging a month. I mean hand coded WEB 2.0 sites such as Weebly, ect.. Not Platform WEB 2.0's. Ever since they added that Macro Creator / Crowd Sourcing feature they have slacked on keeping quality sites in the program. I could have told you that was going to happen as soon as they announced that feature.

    If I were you this is what I would do:
    1.) Take a look and the MS, UD and SENUKE forums and see what people are complaining about and fix it in your software.

    2.) Keep Sites Updated Weekly. WEB 2.0's will be your Bread and Butter, no program out there does WEB 2.0's well and its a shame because WEB2.0's should be what the monthly money should be going towards for the most part.

    3.) Don't oversell. If you are going to sell at $97/m fine. Just Limit it to 500-650 Copies. You will still make a ton of money and your user base will stay loyal and happy. Problem with a lot of backlink tools is they oversell and overselling is not really good to your customer base, sites die faster, software gets cracked. SENuke is cracked pretty much as soon as they update, now they have thousands of customers plus a ton of others using the cracked version with access to the same sites. No wonder the sites die so fast. Just get a good User Base of like 500-650 and just fill the spots of people who cancel every month or so. Atleast that is how I would do it.

    Sorry for my little rant.
     
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    All great points, and I agree
     
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    Is there anything original about this thing? Even the name isn't original, half is from UD and other half from Nuke.