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Penguin 2.0 + 301

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by garrido, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. garrido

    garrido Supreme Member

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    I have a site with over a million links, penalized penguin 2:
    Is it a good idea to buy another domain with a lot of varied anchor text and make a 301 redirect?



    I'm very interested to hear the views of the most experienced members here.

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  2. Seo-Devil

    Seo-Devil Regular Member

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    you will never no if won't try it all situation is different
     
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  3. masterjani

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    If you got messages in the webmaster tool then it is good idea not to 301. Because the penalty will transfer to the new one too. Rather do a 302 temporary redirect and test the things out.

    As the site is having over million links, it is always tough to diversify it anymore without a massive effort. But you can copy the contents and try something with new site too. As new sites are ranking very quickly
     
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  4. BigBuddy

    BigBuddy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    From your above post , its clear you have millions of links, which looks spammy. So possible penalty for link spamming and i assume you would have receive mail from google saying unnatural backlinks if you are using webmaster tools.

    There are debates going around for long time saying 301 from penalty site can pass the penalty to new domain. But from my experience it did nt happen when I done the same for my penalized site.

    If Passing link juice from penalized site can penalize new domain, then it will be the top notch negative seo , where you can simply do the same with your competitor site who are ranking in top 10.

    I suggest, move ahead with 301 and update here.

    Forgot to add, if your site is de indexed do not try this, as its severe penalty. If it is just rank drops, do it.
     
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  5. Sampler

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    Sampler, you beat me to it :)
     
  7. garrido

    garrido Supreme Member

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    Thanks buddy, but I mean to make a 301 redirect TO the penalized site.
     
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    Don't use a 302 as mentioned by someone else, it doesn't pass the juice.
     
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  9. garrido

    garrido Supreme Member

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    Waiting more powerful members opinions!
     
  10. sudorank

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    Yes i was thinking this. Whoever posted it IS NOT an SEO!

    As for 301'ing the whole site over to a new one i have some experience with a Panda 2 hit site which was no1 for its term. What i did was buy an aged domain which had a bunch of links for a closely related yet slightly different keyword.

    I 301's the panda hit domain to the new bought domain to "dilute" the anchor text link juice. After 2 weeks i'm back sitting high at no1 again, only difference is my newly bought domain is at no1 not my old one. The site has been at no1 for about a month now so fingers crossed it seems like it's fixed the problem.

    Dunno if that helps you but it does show that some fixes are possible with 301 redirects.
     
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  11. BigBuddy

    BigBuddy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    sorry man, I read it wrong..

    But anyway, it still pass link juice. so carry on..

    But you have to confirm the other purchased domains too that its not penalized.
     
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    Hey I dont get why you would want to 301 to penalized domains.

    I had a website which got penalized and I simply just bought a new domain with authority and started ranking that website again. Then I 301ed my penalized domain to newauthoritydomain.tld/sitemap and that worked perfect. I kept the linkjuice and avoided all the penalities. I dont know how it would work for you though.
     
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    Did this after Penguin v1 and the new website gained back all ranks. So quite a lot of time. However 2 weeks ago we got the hammer, worse than ever.

    Preparing the new 301. :)
     
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    yes i think it is good idea
     
  15. garrido

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    The idea here is to do a 301 redirect to the penalized domain, to dilute the anchor text.

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    Sampler, you beat me to it
     
  17. James2

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    Sorry, been out of it for a while. Penguin V2? FFS!
     
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  18. bartosimpsonio

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    Like BigBuddy said, if you're able to redirect these to your competitors with the same effect they had on you, you've found GOLD JERRY.

    When Google gives you lemmons, make a lemmonade.
     
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    Put simply: no, I seriously doubt it'll work. 301s are essentially like very very powerful links so think of it this way - if you were to dilute your tier 2 anchor text would that improve your money sites link dilution? No, so this probably won't either.

    I would, however, 301 redirect your penalized site to a new domain. That will likely recover a good portion of what you lost.
     
  20. garrido

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    Wellcome to the new game mate. P2 is here.