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Matt Cutts: Confirms Penguin Is About Links?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by RightInTwo, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. RightInTwo

    RightInTwo Power Member

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    Barry Schwartz noted on his blog today that Matt Cutts has responded to a question about Penguin and it's correlation to links. Cutts gave his usual "non answer" but appears to allude to links.

    Matt Cutts on Twitter:

    Article Source: http://www.seroundtable.com/google-penguin-links-15590.html
     
  2. john1444

    john1444 Elite Member

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    I see the case of Matt Cutts as a misplaced priority.

    Instead of fighting quality result on the search engine he is fighting webmasters and SEO experts.

    Well, place it 100% white hat and you will remain safe.
     
  3. RightInTwo

    RightInTwo Power Member

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    Sadly, TONS of white hat only websites were hit by Penguin.
     
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  4. topdown

    topdown Junior Member

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    There's a saying in my country: "Not everything that's flying is good to eat" same with websites & SEO, "Not all that's White is good to rank"
     
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  5. RightInTwo

    RightInTwo Power Member

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    While your saying is right, I was mainly talking about the data side of things. Meaning, that even if you play by Google's rules and do in fact deserve to rank, you might get hit.
     
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    a32335 BANNED BANNED

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    I'll go ahead and say fuck matt cutts
     
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  7. wannabie

    wannabie Elite Member

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    Saying the same thing as he has for the last year or two
     
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    Hartwigm Junior Member

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    He's definitely misplacing his target...
     
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    I am sure those "white hat" sites were buying links :)

    or their seo sucks period...

    white hat link building is the only 100% safe for short and long term.

     
  10. assphuck

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    According to Google's Internet Law, any link you make is unnatural and black hat. That's what happens when a monopoly is allowed to apply their dictatorship over a one trillion dollar a year industry (e-commerce).
     
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  11. RightInTwo

    RightInTwo Power Member

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    Assphuck is right (was laughing while typing that!). Technically any​ form of link building is going to be against their TOS.
     
  12. infoasian

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    White hat means no link building at all. White hats wait for links to come by themselves.
     
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    Of course Google is still all about links. Everybody, their dog, and their grandmother seems to preach to you these days about how black hat links will only get your site sandboxed, although almost none of them have ever even tried it. If they have, they bought some overpriced spammy blasts, hurt a site, then decided that it was a done deal.

    If white hat was the true secret to ranking in google, when you type in search terms like "seo tips," it wouldn't all be white hat propaganda. They certainly aren't going to teach you how to truly manipulate their search engine and profit.

    /rant.
     
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    Actually, there is.
     
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    ryannull Senior Member

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    I couldn't have said it better myself.

    Google is an evil dictator.
     
  16. Expertpeon

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    I did an analysis on this back in May, after 2 weeks of 40+ hrs studying penguin and sites hit/not hit (along with actual work) I told every person on this forum that Penguin was all about links, and now links can have NEGATIVE value.

    Everyone swore up and down that I was full of it for the most part, but I have been operating (quite successfully) upon this assumption since and also doing extensive negative SEO on competitors.

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...uin-reverse-engineered-video.html#post4292560

    If only you people would listen. :p

    I knew this, simply by analyzing enough sites to know. It's extremely obvious that on-site factors had little, if anything, to do with Penguin.
     
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    lol, someone de-repped me for saying blaming matt cutts is like blaming ronald mcdonald.
     
  18. redclover

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    Matt Cutts is making sure Google can pander to their "Favorite" companies.
    In my opinion Penguin and Panda are ass kissing algorithms to make sure small
    guys cannot compete.

    RedClover
     
  19. StirlingMedia

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    Well I am glad they didn't, it's one thing to make yourself stronger but to damage other people's sites is really low. The people that own those sites could be anyone, you could be fucking up their life, stop doing that shit.

    But anyway I thought negative SEO, though possible for a short time isn't any more.
     
  20. Expertpeon

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    It's certainly very easy and very straightforward to do negative SEO on fresh or semi-fresh domains... I do this because it works, regardless of the "morality" floating around it. If google wants to be a moral company, and their users to be moral, they have to lead by example.

    Rolling out random algorithms that support conglomerated business interests, bypassing privacy settings on browsers, clear anti-trust violations, and criminal acts concerning the EFTA are not exactly going to keep your users honest.

    Negative SEO is particularly cost effective when a site has spent a small fortune to rank a very competitive keyword, usually on paid links. You can quickly, and effectively, destroy any hope they had of a good ROI.
     
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