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[LEARN] The Three Types of Google Penalties - Algorithm can be Gamed!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Windmill, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. Windmill

    Windmill Supreme Member

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    The Three Types of Penalties: Algorithm, Manual and Filter Penalties

    Preface: I've read this from several sources. Google themselves have said this much. I am not an authority though, so feel free to discuss/tell me I am wrong. When I learned about this, it made sense, and it helped me make changes to my SEO strategies. Worth a read.

    Google has three major types of penalties. Ones due to their algorithm, ones given manually and ones that are periodic filters. I'll explain each for you all.

    Algorithm Penalties

    Google is making changes to their algorithm every day. This algorithm is running ALL THE TIME. The program correlates all of the data it has (indexed sites and information it stores about them) and it then uses this to calculate which websites are the "best". It then ranks websites in order of the best/most relevant. If your website drops in rankings due to the algorithm, it is usually not a big deal. It just means that your website isn't meeting the algorithm criteria anymore. The algorithm is always running so once you crack what the issue is, you can make the changes, then wait for your site to get re-indexed. It should then recover quickly, since Google will automatically recalculate your new ranking "score".

    Manual Penalties

    The most feared of them all. If your website gets the attention of actual HUMANS at Google, they will then look over it and if they see your website is violating your guidelines, they will slap it manually in the SERPs. The penalties are usually things like -30 and they last for a set period of time; e.g. 30-90 days. The most famous example of this is JC Penny when they were caught using very overt blackhat techniques. When receiving a manual penalty, you will be contacted by Google about your specific penalty. It is extremely unlikely you will be given a manual penalty because it is a lot of effort on Google's behalf to review sites. Note: UNNATURAL LINKS MESSAGE ISN'T A MANUAL PENALTY. It is a filter penalty. Read on!

    Filter Penalties

    This is the MOST IMPORTANT to understand of them all. Filter penalties include the following:

    • Google Panda Penalty
    • Google Penguin Penalty
    • EMD Penalty (not sure if this is confirmed?)
    • Unnatural Links Penalty
    These are FILTER penalties, and they can be extremely devestating. They are algorithm's that are updated PERIODICALLY. So, the main Google Algorithm is running 24/7, right? Well, Google Panda isn't. Google will, time-to-time (about once a month on average) run the filter across all of their results. Websites/pages receive penalties accordingly. The reason they do this is because these are big, complex algorithm's. If they could run them 24/7 I'm sure they would, but it is a lot of processing power. If you get caught in a filter penalty, YOU NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW REFRESH. There will be mini refreshes directly afterwards but most people will need to wait until the main refresh.

    What does this mean? It means you need to be patient. If you get slapped by Panda, it is because your content was not high enough quality. Lets say you fixed up the content within a week - you might expect to go back up, right? WRONG! You will have to wait until the new refresh. So don't get discouraged!

    Less is known about the unnatural links penalty, I believe. If anyone wishes to expand on that in the replies, that would be great. It isn't a core aspect of the algorithm, and it isn't a manual penalty. It is more like a filter, which is why you get mass-amounts of letters sent out at once. However, I believe the recovery is a little more complex. If you get slapped by penguin, you need to fix your site and wait until the next refresh. If you get an unnatural link warning, that is just that - a WARNING. Google have said that if you fix the issues right away (1-2 weeks) then your website will NOT see a drop. So its probably two filters; one that runs across all of the websites, picks out the bad ones, and then a second filter that re-checks the warned sites. WATCH YOUR GOOGLE WEBMASTER MAIL ACCOUNT. It might save your site!

    Also, fyi: this is how this guys site ranked #3 in 10 days. Yes his site is a piece of crap but its low competition. He will be slapped by penguin/panda/emd/all of them once their filters are refreshed. What does this mean for you? BLACK HAT TIME. You can still get QUICK RANKINGS! But, don't expect to keep them unless you're careful! The base algorithm isn't that powerful and can still be gamed - it is much harder to game the filters!

    Anyway I hope this helps! Feel free to add your own comments in the replies section.
     
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    Didnt know that the filters arent running all the time thats useful info thanks dude
     
  3. Windmill

    Windmill Supreme Member

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    No problem :) it is quite important to understand; I also feel there is BH potential here as well for quick wins/quick money. Though I can't really think of why that would be worth it... most niches it would be better to put in a bit more work and create a long-lasting site rather than one that is going to get slapped in the SERPs.

    I've seen this in my sites. I don't get the huge shock of ranking a site in 10 days. I've ranked sites within days if it has easy competition, especially an EMD. The problem is that you'll get slapped to hell when the filter runs! That said I have two EMD sites that are doing shockingly well, given how crap they are. So you know... luck is helpful as well ;)
     
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    C0DeZeR0 Junior Member

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    Nice Article ..

    But What About ranking in Google in Some Countries Other Not !

    All Over Really very Useful Article

    Cheers .
     
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    Well , this is a good read althought I knew about the 3 cases you mentionned.
    But I'm not really sure that Panda is only about content quality, because lot of reputable members are offering a Panda-proof linkbuilding system without doing any onsite seo or providing you content, but only by providing panda-proof backlinks.

    So what do you think about it OP ?
     
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    Ranking in other countries, well, that is what I have to do for my living. I have found the following things work:

    • If you are ranking country-specific keywords (such as: "JC Penny America") then you will be able to rank well, no-matter what country-specific-Google you are using. So if you want to rank in Google Canada for "JC Penny America" you don't need to do country-specific things to rank there; just focus on the local keyword.
    • Links from their country-specific domains. So if you want to rank in Google Canada, try and get links from .ca addresses.
    • It is very important, if you are focusong on non-local KWs AND if you are fighting hard competition, to make your website on a country-specific domain. So to rank on Google Canada, use a .ca domain for your website.
    Hope that helps!

    I think the reputable members offering "panda-proof-backlinking" are correct in-that their links probably are panda proof... given panda doesn't really care about it ;) I think it wouldn't be a huge shock if panda has some linking elements to its algorithm but it really seems to be a content-only update. Evidence and case studies from recovering websites show its changing their CONTENT and design flaws that fixed their problem and their rankings went back up again.

    Thats my thoughts, anyway.
     
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    Nice to get your thought OP, I appreciate, but have you driven any tests on your website and successfuly recovered from the Panda ?
     
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    Well I've only ever had one site hit by Panda, and that was one month ago. There has been no refresh since that update. I am actually somewhat optimistic for our recovery. Call me ignorant but I've made some good changes, we've had some good (natural) press and our facebook page is very active. We'll see anyway!