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How much do those teen porn sites make?

Discussion in 'Membership Sites' started by JohnJordan, Mar 8, 2010.

  1. JohnJordan

    JohnJordan Newbie

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    I got a female she look real good perfect body for this. I talked her into doing a 1 person porn site. One of those 18 year old porn sites where it's just her doing daily updates and cool stuff like that. I know how to market this type of stuff but have no clue how much money these things are likely to make. I'm still trying to think of what type of commission i should take for making this all happen ( building the website/ photo's/ getting customers)

    Revenue model:
    1. Membership: for daily or weekly updates have not yet decided.
    2. Webcam sessions: private for people paying a nice amount of money price yet undecided, What should the charge be to start out and again what commission should I receive for making this all happen?
    3. Personal Belongings: I was looking at females selling some of there belongings for like 100-200.00 so that is a good money maker. you know when they wear them so again commission for getting the customers....


    If you could answer the questions on how much commission I should get from the net profit, I would be thankful. Also how much money we are looking at considering perfect body type. Also some of the average pricing for webcam sessions and or just the membership to start out.

    Thanks BHW

    P.S. Why is BHW starting out with 20.00/s in the avatar peeps at BHW I thought were about the Benjamins lol
     
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  2. cashking009

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    Your income depend totaly on ur visitors amount...
    u can create affiliate program for ur site and get more visitors / sales
    im pretty sure all adult membership sites nothing without affiliates...
     
  3. reallife

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    Hey - that's been my background for many, many years - and I'm slowly trying to move to mainstream because the money in adult isn't what it used to be.

    A standalone solo site (that is, without an affiliate program that has a bunch of other, similar sites to sell) is going to need mad traffic to turn a buck - and you're not going to find many more competitive areas than a teen site.

    Then, if you actually do OK with traffic and sales, you run into the bane of everyone in the adult world - people will join, download your video, and then upload it to freebie sites. Revenue to you from that: zero.

    I had a number of adult niche membership sites that did, combined, well into five figures a month. Now, they do about 30% of what they used to do, just because of all the free stuff out there.

    I tell you this because these days, there are a lot better ways to make money. The easy money in adult has come and gone :(
     
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  4. lagrimas175

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    Welcome to one of the most competitive niches in the world.

    I will let you know that I have no experience in this niche but from what I have heard from others, the adult industry is extremely difficult to break into. Especially if you are just trying to do a site with one girl by yourself, you are almost guaranteed not to make much money.

    For some reason, people think that just by making a porn site, it will automatically take off. From what I hear, most adult sites never make it anywhere and the ones that do make it usually are highly experienced, professional, have huge backing and a lot more going for them.

    I would say that you should forget doing this site because it's not going to be worth your time unless you already have a plan to get traffic that you are 100% sure of and the girl you are working with is super hot or has what it takes to get guys interested and paying money month after month. The fact that you had to convince this girl to do this probably says she doesn't have what it takes.

    In any case, there are many better ideas out there to make money online that do not involve anywhere near the effort it takes to set up a membership adult site. I would highly suggest considering doing a different project.
     
  5. reallife

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    As I've mentioned I have nearly 15 years in that niche - and you couldn't be more correct.
     
  6. sxmcdo6

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    maybe give a link to some pics so we can give you a better evaluation? :D
     
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  7. Grunge

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    Define perfect body bud.. I will not believe it's perfect until I get a free review :p
     
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  8. ebostrom

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    Maybe she should work for a webcam site?
     
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  9. hpv222

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    Pretty much my story too - I've been in adult since 2000 and was making good $$$, didn't make the millions I dreamed of, but I was living pretty comfortably .... now it's a totally different story, I still get some $$$ from cam and dating sites, but from all other programs that I send traffic to I get next to nothing
     
  10. ageofz

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    I'll say that it's about knowing what your target audience is and knowing where to find them - just like in any other field. I know there is money to be made.

    In fact, I have a membership site for ME, yes me, that is a non-nude bodybuilder style site where I do cam shows, chats, weekly videos, pics exc. and I have 420+ members paying 12.99/month. I've been doing this for a long time and my money is constantly increasing.

    What others have said is true - it's highly competitive and hard to start. But you have to realize why people would pay to become a member to a 1 person site, and that is to feel like they build a connection with the person and are able to talk with someone that they otherwise couldn't in real life. It's about not being afraid to be open about answering questions, doing requests, seeing what they like, letting them know you care about them, and having a mutual respect for each other. With traditional porn sites that fail, they lack this personal touch. Think about it - there are hundreds of thousands of free porn videos out there, but there is only 1 place where they can really talk with you and be your friend.

    As for commission to manage everything for her, it doesn't take much time to manage after everything is set up. Once you have a CMS, member area, private forum and galleries set up, it takes about an hour or two a week to keep everything smooth. 20% is a good place to start when it comes to charging for that. However, if you are going to be getting the business and marketing, then you should charge about 50%. Most cam sites now pay their models 40% on the per minute charge (60% VIP), 50% on "zips," and 50% on membership sections for each model. They also keep the membership subscription for themselves, so models typically get shitted percentage wise.

    Want some ideas to promote? The best ways that worked for me is by contacting popular blogs that post up maybe "daily hot chicks" or "busty blonde pics" or whatever niche she would cater to and asking them to write a post / put a link in their blogroll in exchange for a permanent membership. It's a numbers game - typically I get a 10-15% success rate doing this, but in the long run the value provided is A LOT. It costs me nothing to make a new member and it's good one-way links and lots of steady traffic. Just make sure you are capturing email addresses.

    One final thing is to make sure that you are keeping members happy. The only way to do this is to make them feel important and connected with you. I typically keep 70% of new members each month for a second month recurring, and 35% of new members recur for more than 3 months. Over time the number of recurring members keeps building.

    Good luck and make sure she is really ready to deal with consequences of venturing into nudity. Once it's up, it's something that can't be taken down. I make sure that whatever I do I wouldn't be ashamed to tell others about.
     
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  11. iadore

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    well said. i like that instead of telling him no, you gave him options. i am in a competitive niche as well but i am doing something with a huge twist on it. Its all been done before just not the way im doing it. Im hella creative so coming up with the creatives for this wasnt hard at all. I didnt have to worry about thinking outside the box because i am outside the box. so good luck to you all.

    just remember: certain niches are competitive for a reason....because the payouts are huge. just dont try to get rich quick because the more competitive the niche the longer it will take to establish yourself unlike trying to buy and sell exotic african mango seeds to exotic plant growers.
     
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  12. Pyronix

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    just a thought but why not put her on some where like myfreecams see how she dose on tips and try build up a fan base then implement the site as a fan site with a membership of say $15 - $25 per month with a small e store selling of her dirty underwear with post card style pictures / short dvd of her wearing it ?
     
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  13. sipser

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    I thought I was on GFY for a minute there.

    Either way, you say:
    Adult sites are a totally different game.

    I wouldn't go for it, for several reasons.

    #1) You dont know how to market the site
    #2) You don't know how to get traffic to the site
    #3) There's about 95% chance of the girl flaking entirely. Happens ALL THE TIME in the industry. If you get her, better shoot a year's worth of content in the first month. Then if she flakes you can get away with pretending to be her for a year.
    #4) Speaking of which, you have to invest into video and photo camera

    Though if you're really insistent you can make some good money. People are still making a killing in adult. Key is to know your market. Like one of the people who posted above, if you get your girl to do chats, blog updates, youtube videos, I think you can make a bank. Won't happen overnight and you should pray to the deity of your choice that she doesn't wake up one morning finding Jesus and leaving you out to dry.

    (As a background, I'm in adult since 2004, run affiliate program and do pro-level paysites for a living)
     
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  14. ClayShumate

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    We haven't met yet...welcome to the internet.
     
  15. sipser

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    Wtf are you on? How is he exploiting her? You're on BHW, the Sunday's school's out.

    Not everyone views being naked as bad. Fuck I'd make my own gay site if I had a monster cock.

    As they say, if gay is where the money's at, I'll gladly take one up the ass for the team.
     
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  16. GreyWolf

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    Well as long as she's 18 then there isn't anything wrong with nudity as long as the girl is up for it. I'm sure that the convincing her to do it part was just about telling her how she could make some money from it. I doubt the OP is strong arming her or anything.

    I was trying to start a business doing portrait photography a few years ago. I got a little business but not enough to make a go of it. I even offered incentives like 'No sitting fee, and 1 free 8x10' and then buy any other prints you want. When I got someone to do a sitting they would always buy some prints so it was a good promotional, but I just couldn't get enough customers to call us to even set up a free appointment.

    One day I noticed all these people selling nude pics on ebay, so I thought maybe I'd give that a shot. I ran an ad on cl looking for nude models, suprisingly I got so many responses that I couldn't even keep up with them all.

    It was amazing, I couldn't give away free sessions for doing family photography, but once I asked for nude models there were women knocking down the door wanting to do it with no gaurantee they would make a dime.

    When they contacted me, I explained fully that I would take the pics, post them on ebay to try and sell them, they would get paid a percent of whatever we made on ebay, and even let them know that most of the pics on ebay wouldn't sell. They would only make money from the sales for one year after their last photo session, that way I wouldn't have to keep track of people that were no longer working with me, but that I would retain the copyright and could sell them indefinately myself. The only gaurantee they had is that I'd give them a cd of pics for their own use.

    There were girls ranging in age from 18 to 30 wanting to set up photoshoots. None of the girls had a problem with that at all. Most of them just thought it would be fun to do it. I did a few photoshoots to start and it turned out not to make me much money so I stopped doing it. I still had girls dissappointed that I had stopped setting up new appointments.

    The whole attitude about adult entertainment is different now. It isn't the big exploitation deal that it once was. As long as the girls are of legal age to do nudity and make their own decisions I don't see anything wrong with what the OP is trying to do. He does need to let the girl know that it isn't a gauranteed success though. She'll probably still want to give it a shot just to try it out.
     
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  17. sipser

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    Jeezus, someone here has a small penis fixation. I never said it was small, the gf's alright with it thanks.

    Lots of girls out there wish they had someone to take them up on making a site. Fuck, company that I work with charges girls $10k upfront for development + 50% profits to create & maintain their sites. OP's gal is pretty lucky and if she isn't flaky & he learns his shit they may both make some decent cash.

    FYI: girl has her own brain and can say no, considering that she won't see cash immediately anyway.
     
  18. hobom

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    I have a friend that's a financial dominatrix online. She's a pretty average looking girl but has a very bitchy and demanding personality. She never gets naked but does a lot of fetish stuff like showing her feet. Just from tributes and guys buying her clips along with her personal used items she makes a couple grand a month.
     
  19. howdoyou

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    you will make more money with here "body" by having her do freelance marketing videos.
     
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  20. Hunwarrior

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    Just get her to a cam site, if she is good, than you get the % after her income.

    Also a way to get a blackhat BJ .... Ask her for a test BJ shoot, and in 2 weeks tell her, that it never made a sale ;)
    Upsale on this: Tell her that she needs to try harder... ask her for a second BJ test shoot :D
     
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