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Chances of out ranking amazon, nextag, etc...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MetalMan390, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. MetalMan390

    MetalMan390 Regular Member

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    I've got a keyword that has 9900 exact searches a month, the problem is that the top 5 or so results are amazon, nextag, target, etc. these sites are only ranked there because of a specific product they are selling, obviously just one page or two with the same keyword as mine.

    i'm using market samurai and it shows amazon and nextag, the top 2, only have 2 page backlinks each, and a shitload of domain backlinks of course. only 2 of the top 10 sites have a decent amount of page backlinks, but i know i can get more than them, but am wondering if it's worth the time and effort if i won't be able to outrank the big guys for my specific keyword.
     
  2. TermsB

    TermsB Senior Member

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    Those are the type of sites I love to see personally. With a bit of correctly done on page SEO and a decent link wheel you'd have a good shot at pushing them out of the way rather quickly.
     
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  3. multimedia

    multimedia Power Member

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    Yup, TermsB is correct. I have personally seen many small sites outranking Amazon, Ezine Articles, etc, with some good SEO on them. Harness the power of WEB 2.0 Properties for best and quick results ;)

    Regards.
     
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  4. MetalMan390

    MetalMan390 Regular Member

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    thanks guys, well i will give it a shot then. this will be my first site with wordpress as opposed to blogger, so hopefully it will look better than the sites i have been making.

    i haven't used a link wheel yet, haven't read into them much but what i have heard is mixed... if google see them they penalize you... is this correct? i have done everything 100% white hat so far, mainly because i am not tech savy enough to do anything blackhat yet, lol. i am just figuring out wordpress so that ought to give you an idea.

    what are some of the basic on page SEO things that i should be doing? how about the frequency of my keywords, how often should they appear in the body? i just downloaded web ceo and ran a keyword density check on another site i am working on, my two main keywords are 5.2% and 4.3%... just so i know what to shoot for on the next site, is this too high, or too low?
     
  5. MetalMan390

    MetalMan390 Regular Member

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    bump to the top...
     
  6. yousefgreat

    yousefgreat Regular Member

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    I don't see any reason why you cannot outrank them.

    I myself successfully outranked Amazon and the official website of a couple of products I am selling....

    Lots of backlinks and some patience should do the trick..:)
     
  7. supamanjon

    supamanjon Power Member

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    My site has 20 backlinks most of the links between me and #3 are amazon + nextag who have 0 backlinks does it just take a few weeks for google to dance me up the serps?
     
  8. pureoctane

    pureoctane Newbie

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    i have a similar site....Sitting at rank 2
    Beaten amazon, and oly nextag to go.......Soon
     
  9. Dangazzm

    Dangazzm Regular Member

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    Yes, keep building links anyways. They are trusted domains, and yours probably isn't SO you need to build trust in order to actually outrank them. This is accomplished easily by getting links from other trusted domains, so keep working! :cow_yello