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a VPN provider that doesnt monitor/log?

Discussion in 'Proxies' started by Joules, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. Joules

    Joules Newbie

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    Dont all or most VPN providers monitor/log your activity? So if the provider was given a subpoena, they would have to give that information up.

    are there any VPN providers that dont monitor? or maybe a VPN provider that is based offshore w/ servers in the US that wouldnt comply with any such request
     
  2. oxonbeef

    oxonbeef BANNED BANNED

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    There is no such thing as an offshore based VPN provider with servers in the US
    that wouldn't comply. Your little much a month isn't enough for them to loose all their
    US business and US based servers. There are non US VPN providers that say they don't keep logs
    but what people say and what people do are two different things.
     
  3. justone

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    If you want high anonymity then you can't rely on "non logging".
    Checkout Tor and Cloakfish, depending on what you want to do one of both might be the right choice for you.

    Every usual proxy/vpn solution can not give you anonymity from authorities.
     
  4. devilster

    devilster Registered Member

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    there are non loggin vpn companys
    check out perfect-privacy.com

    been using it since a year now, best service ever :)
     
  5. justone

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    That's definitely not secure to use, if you need real protection those services are not the right thing.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Joules

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    i need a dedicated IP, so those like cloakfish and tor wont be useful
     
  7. Limelike

    Limelike Junior Member

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    you can use

    Code:
    ultravpn.fr
    
    Although going on to ebay or paypal through this can get your paypal / ebay blocked due to many people using this to fraud.
     
  8. Elimination

    Elimination Newbie

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    Code:
    http://www.vpnlab.ru/
    Try them?
     
  9. pucca

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    i m selling vpn which does not monitor logs
     
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    yeah i bet dude
     
  12. websicosys

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    In all honesty, unless a VPN is specifically written to log the content of the packets passing through, there isn't like, a file which has every connection you made through the VPN.

    For example, most VPN services simply use Window's built-in RRAS service to produce a PPTP VPN. Just by the very nature of the system, none of the packets can be logged. From your computer to the server, the packets are encrypted. From the server to the target is another story, but it is highly unlikely that server to target connections or packets are logged.

    Basically, heres what someone would be able to tell from the default installation of Windows RRAS or even with OpenVPN:

    - User connected to VPN at time from IP address.
    - User disconnected from VPN at time.

    Now, assuming 5 other people are also connected. There is no possible way for the server admin (or the men in black) to know who connected to what IP address. And, unless they're using a packet sniffer specifically configured, it is impossible for them to know what was sent. 5 people at one time is a conservative guess. I've seen VPN servers with 500 accounts and 50 people on at one time. It's honestly a crap shoot.

    Heres my advice to you: Using a VPN is okay for spamming. Most mom-and-pop VPN services aren't going to have the technical know-how to log you.
     
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  13. oktmv

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    Can you please tell us that VPN servers with 500 accounts and 50 people on at one time :D
     
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    After all you never know how well monitored a service is.
    If you do real crimes through a VPN, no matter how many users are on it, you risk getting caught.
    If you do repeated crimes it becomes a lot more likely as people might just wait for your connection.

    So you'd have to change the VPN provider all the time and each change increases the risk of getting caught by a logfile.

    All I wanted to say: Don't bet your life on it, if you use a service that can't really protect your IP then you need at least to accept the worst outcome as a possible outcome.


    P.S.
    even if a VPN is not logging the packet details.
    If a crime is serious enough people might just compare the traffic statistic or use other fingerprinting methods to find the source or at least reduce the possible number of sources.
    Once someone spends time and has raw data (as example traffic logs from the destination server and the VPN provider) it becomes likely he can find matches.
     
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