Is this by any chance related to a calculation of the viewer's retention value, based ...
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12-20-2012, 07:34 AM
#136
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Is this by any chance related to a calculation of the viewer's retention value, based even for the old videos that were pumped, where they saw unnatural stats, which automatically triggered some sort of autosuspension for our videos/accounts? ( I mean for videos where the retention factor hasn't been given proper attention ). Or is it more than that? Subscribed.
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12-20-2012, 07:35 AM
#137
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
I have no issue with the changes of youtube. In fact, it is boosting my business since I only provide real human likes, comments and views.
Thank you YT
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12-20-2012, 07:36 AM
#138
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Well we are working 24/7 to work out what it is, we will update you if we find anything, but we know for sure some videos that are banned have been restored, have you tried appeal also?
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12-20-2012, 07:38 AM
#139
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
how to write in YT support? any mail?
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12-20-2012, 07:44 AM
#140
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
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12-20-2012, 07:48 AM
#141
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
It's just a serious screw up in their algo change aka maintenance aka anti-BH update
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12-20-2012, 07:58 AM
#142
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Guys, we no need to panic. Before going into assumptions, we can try various options and see , which type of views or referrers, likes or subs is getting banned. Presently in the process of testing, will update here as soon as seeing the results. lets hope for the best.
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12-20-2012, 08:04 AM
#143
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
I am noticing that pretty much all my videos boosted with vagex are fine. One's that I purchased from a supplier running a bot are banned. Just a heads up for you guys! BigBuddy is right. Now need to panic or worry, just split test but be sure to be smart about it! In this industry things like this happen every minute of the day. Pick yourself up and gain traction again.
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12-20-2012, 08:05 AM
#144
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
I have been providing likes,subscribers and comments to many videos within the last 48 hours and none of the videos have been banned so far.
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12-20-2012, 08:06 AM
#145
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
All the views on our system, the videos are still remaning we are still testing before we launch though
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12-20-2012, 08:08 AM
#146
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
lol
why they deleted one my vid and didn`t send any letter. must i wait on my gmail?=)
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12-20-2012, 08:26 AM
#147
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
People are complaining about the mass removing by youtube.. we must wait and see what will happen next..
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12-20-2012, 09:14 AM
#148
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
My clients on the otherside of the globe are waking up to the dread TOS email right now lol. Its going to be a long couple of days. Is anyone 100% they are restoring videos? If so what exactly are you saying to YouTube? and are you using the standard appeal forum? Thanks for the help guys I am VERY VERY VERY new to all this, and I work with entertainment industry clients who are less then understanding. Everyone here has been so helpful will all there posts. Even the funny ones
Glad to hear that this kinda thing is to be expected in this industry I guess this is like my welcome to the industry party.
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12-20-2012, 09:21 AM
#149
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???

Originally Posted by
realcases
lol
why they deleted one my vid and didn`t send any letter. must i wait on my gmail?=)
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12-20-2012, 09:34 AM
#150
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Bye Bye Gangnam Style
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12-20-2012, 09:57 AM
#151
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
How about this shit video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruav0KvQOOg
Ahhh YouTube won't touch it.
Since it bring money to YouTube.
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12-20-2012, 09:58 AM
#152
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???

Originally Posted by
willtx
It's an automated system. Like the others said, even if they are safe today they may be removed by tomorrow. They have some algorithm to detect it.
Yes they were doing a lot of changes in the algorithms again , for me I feel in the traffic to go easy down
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12-20-2012, 10:24 AM
#153
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Woah I hadn't expected to see anything like this... Although I did notice that Youtube have started purging views from old deleted videos - http://socialblade.com/youtube/top/bottom5001d
As for high retention views I can vouch that these aren't having any problems too.
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12-20-2012, 10:42 AM
#154
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???

Originally Posted by
YTbotter
I'm going to give it a week or two then start re-uploading everything with new accounts.
I think that's a possible solution.
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12-20-2012, 10:43 AM
#155
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
keep calm and choose your providers wisely
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12-20-2012, 10:46 AM
#156
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???

Originally Posted by
unclemike
Bye Bye Gangnam Style

Hahahaha this was actually my very first thought. What will happen to all these celebrity videos getting millions and millions of views? Can't we just get any video banned that we feel like at this point? Probably not if it benefits youtube/google..
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12-20-2012, 10:47 AM
#157
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
So it will be a good year to start do white staff and blast all type of competitors 
merry xmas
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12-20-2012, 10:49 AM
#158
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???

Originally Posted by
the known
hey guys listen up. Some heads up. As far as I know now this issue happens just from views, not from likes/subs/whatever.
Also, it's not just for views from 1 particular provider. Almost all view providers have this issue now
EDIT: if they're (youtube) is really planning on continuing like this and improving their security methods like this, it isn't the best idea in my opinion. Because this means that you can easily take someones channel down by just boosting some videos from him, LOL.
Yepp and that is funny because it is true! Don't like someone? Buy him some xmas views.
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12-20-2012, 11:29 AM
#159
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
My best video got taken down. But I was also trying to monetize it. The videos that I used these boosting services for but didn't monetize were left alone
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12-20-2012, 11:50 AM
#160
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Gangnam style has many fake views. Why it is not taken down ?
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12-20-2012, 12:12 PM
#161
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
because its the gangnamstyle ... but universal music group has lost over 1.000.000.000 Views Just search on socialblad for Universal Music Group
Youtube is TOTALLY crazy. I am ruined....
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12-20-2012, 12:13 PM
#162
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
I tried to make retantion 80% + make pause between views 1-2 min, make 5 views per 1 ip. will hope it helps
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12-20-2012, 12:16 PM
#163
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???

Originally Posted by
affuser
Gangnam style has many fake views. Why it is not taken down ?

Fake or not, annoying or not, viral or not, that's a global phenomena, making a lot of money. That's why the word 'exception' exists.
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12-20-2012, 12:20 PM
#164
I'm not really in the yt's game...anyway it's obvious that a video with only "fast views" or with only "time watched views" will get flagged.
C'mon! 100.000 people (for example) that just "open/close" your video? 100.000 that watch till the end?
It might be the referer, the IPs or whatever you want, but try to mix the views to look more natural as possible...
100.000 views? 20/30.000 time watched + 40/50.000 fast views + 20/30.000 I don't know ahaha
Always remember to use likes and comments too!
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12-20-2012, 01:06 PM
#165
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
21/December/2012 = YouTube views apocalypse.
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12-20-2012, 01:21 PM
#166
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Holy shit,
This guys fiverr gig is blowing up with bad reviews from customers who had their videos banned.
Never used the service but it claims to be delivering "high retention" views so maybe it's not just the zero retention videos that are being banned

***** DO NOT PURCHASE THIS SELLERS GIGS **** OVER 64 ORDERS ALL VIDEOS HAVE BEEN BANNED FROM YOUTUBE. TODAY - SELLER NOT RESPONDING TO E-MAIL - STAY WELL AWAY!!!!"
http://fiverr.com/cpumedia/give-you-...ws-in-48-hours
Last edited by scottledeuce; 12-20-2012 at 01:29 PM.
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12-20-2012, 01:34 PM
#167
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Are those negative views from deleted videos? I noticed Wiz Khalifa and Matchbox 20 are on that list.

Originally Posted by
willo556
Woah I hadn't expected to see anything like this... Although I did notice that Youtube have started purging views from old deleted videos -
http://socialblade.com/youtube/top/bottom5001d
As for high retention views I can vouch that these aren't having any problems too.
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12-20-2012, 01:35 PM
#168
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
I mean it makes sense to me why videos that have like 100% of their view referrals from FaceBook and retention at 100% banned... Because it's not realistic. Lets be real, most real videos do not get their real views from people clicking on videos shared on Facebook. Even if most views do come from FaceBook, I'd think it'd be like 40% from FaceBook, 30% from related views, 30% from keyword... on a REALISTIC level that is... and there's no way the retention rate can be 90%+ realistically speaking...
i'm just throwing out views, you guys are gonna have to test it out. (i cant because i run on mac and dont know how to do none of this shit, so the best i can do is give my input or outside looking in type of shit.)
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12-20-2012, 01:43 PM
#169
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Can't even get to the login page at youtubebuzz... have they suddenly gone down, too?
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12-20-2012, 01:43 PM
#170
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???

Originally Posted by
killopus
Are those negative views from deleted videos? I noticed Wiz Khalifa and Matchbox 20 are on that list.
Yeah I'm almost 100% sure its from deleted videos.
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12-20-2012, 02:00 PM
#171
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
http://fiverr.com/tapangoldy/get-you...cial-deal-ever
so many -NEGATIVE feedback.. reporting about all their videos got removed
21/December/2012 YouTube videos APOCALYPSE ..
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12-20-2012, 02:01 PM
#172
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
This isn't the first time something like this has happened.
One of the updates about 4-6(?) months ago wiped me out nearly completely. Every time I used fast delivery my vids would get taken down, every single time. No matter IP/comments/likes etc, it didn't matter.
YT definitely roll updates out which wreak havoc for a set period of time, then after a while they either slack off, OR providers change tactics.
As a side note, the update i was talking about cost me around $6k + a month.
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12-20-2012, 02:03 PM
#173
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Shit the bed, it looks like fiverr sellers are getting torn to pieces out here!
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12-20-2012, 02:09 PM
#174
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
2 of my videos have been removed. Views came from Youtube-boost and their overdelivery and the likes came from youlikehits.
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12-20-2012, 02:38 PM
#175
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Does this filter deletes views delivered after the start of the update?
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12-20-2012, 03:01 PM
#176
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???

Originally Posted by
ADHD-Dude
Does this filter deletes views delivered after the start of the update?
not noticed...yesterday after action i joined 3 new videos to system and now I see views delivery and videos not banned..
I wait now what happen...
I saw on others forums, that YT deleted many many videos of people which never buy views...
Now this YT game like , if you don't like somebody, delivery him bot views and his video will be delete..
Youtube took strange way , they should reset counters or do minus of bot views but not delete video, because in some things owner of video maybe not know nothing about somebody joined him views...
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12-20-2012, 03:05 PM
#177
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???

Originally Posted by
PinguSpy
I knew the root to this evil was the fake views, now that youtube are taking these steps against artificial views perhaps negative SEO just got easier to take down youtube competitors? A thought. I sure as hell hope no one trys to target ant of my videos, I know I have some competition that would love to do so...
Either your a dreamer or a Do'er.
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12-20-2012, 03:08 PM
#178
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
Nicole Scherzinger lost almost 20 million views 
Perhaps a member of BHW ? Who know's..
Otherwise, for the "make money" term still a crappy video ranks 3#
Nevertheless, this video has done more in terms of private high PR links from networks.
/** wow, even great Santana lost 20 Million views. But he has 48 million left, so no need to worry for him
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12-20-2012, 03:10 PM
#179
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
i had recently ordered 5k views + comments so lets see from now ...and also i didnt get any problem ...hope all goes well
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12-20-2012, 03:11 PM
#180
Re: Youtube Changed the game ???
is this a stargate SG1 series?it seem u r talking the same way and very much like Dr daniel jackson...the different is Dr daniel translate and trying to unlock the ancient alien technology..and u guys r talking about theory and trying to figure out how to unlock of youtube technology(the asgard) :-D..
LOL
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