Emails from copyright owners

**BuzzKill** · #1 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 01:57 PM

I really only messed around with youtube during the tail end of the ringtone era. How common is it to get e-mails from Youtube saying that the copyright owner has flagged the video and instead of removing it will be monitoring the stats.. After 5 of those I started getting a little (par)annoyed and yanked all the videos. Is this a fairly common thing?

**battman323** · #2 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 02:35 PM

yes that's common. I think YouTube strikes some kind of deal to with the owners.

**foxler** · #3 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 03:09 PM

I've gotten those some of those emails because of YouTube's Video Identification. I'm guessing because they didn't automatically get pulled off that the record label doesn't care if you share it cause it's just spreading the word.

But I got this today from a music video "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Warner Music Group" what are the chances of them actually doing anything other than just taking the video down? I'm thinking about re-uploading that same music vid but a different file cause it's quite popular. I'm doing the uploading through a host's server so what would be the chances of them finding me? :-p

**foxler** · #4 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lolnicksor

Sure you can upload through a server. Are you paying for that server? Does that hosting company have any information about you? So now you keep pushing their copyrighted goodies, they get irritated.. Hell they could probably just ask YT for your info and go from there.. If they're really upset with you they can file a civil complaint and subpoena youtube, then your server's provider.. The next thing you know, you get a next day air package from UPS with a nasty gram; say hello to RIAA's crack law team! They'll provide some proof of your actions then tell you to call within X amount of days or they'll file a federal civil suit against you for up to 100k per infringing item..... Have fun with that. It's much easier for them to prove damages in a civil suit too. Unlike criminal you're not innocent until proven guilty. You're guilty until you prove otherwise. This makes baby jesus weep.

ahahahhahaah
Shit I didn't know THE LAW was on these forums. Thanks for signing up to these forums just to answer my question

Well it is a paid host and the only info they have about me is my email and paypal id because I don't like to give anyone real info if they don't 'really' need it. So the more hoops they have to jump through to find me the better for me I figure. I uploaded the video again

wish me luck

**BuzzKill** · #5 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 06:53 PM

One more reason to secure your wireless router.. I'll be watching for the UPS truck in my neighbors driveway..

**foxler** · #6 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lolnicksor

i'm not the law idiot. I didn't sign up to answer your question, don't flatter yourself. So your paypal ID isn't tied to your bank account? None of your accounts have any of your real information, right? lol ..... You think you're slick until you get spanked. Just remember, your enemy has more resources than you. Be careful.

k thanks for the heads up

**battman323** · #7 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 07:53 PM

USUALLY they'll just take it down though.

**wmitchell003** · #8 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolnicksor

Sure you can upload through a server. Are you paying for that server? Does that hosting company have any information about you? So now you keep pushing their copyrighted goodies, they get irritated.. Hell they could probably just ask YT for your info and go from there.. If they're really upset with you they can file a civil complaint and subpoena youtube, then your server's provider.. The next thing you know, you get a next day air package from UPS with a nasty gram; say hello to RIAA's crack law team! They'll provide some proof of your actions then tell you to call within X amount of days or they'll file a federal civil suit against you for up to 100k per infringing item..... Have fun with that. It's much easier for them to prove damages in a civil suit too. Unlike criminal you're not innocent until proven guilty. You're guilty until you prove otherwise. This makes baby jesus weep.

Very insightful. A lot of us that think that we are covering our asses are really just gratifying ourselves without paying a whole lot of attention to the details necessary to truly do it. Hey if the so called "spam king" got caught are we really fooling anyone.

Another note I am not trying to hijack this thread but it would be very great if we could get a running list of companies that dont mind user generated content using their copyrighted materials.

check it out here.

not much yet and I dont even know if there are anymore other than the only one that is currently on the list.

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...eir-media.html

**Nixte** · #9 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 10:44 PM

LOL - your poor neighbor

Best thing is to find you a nice spot around any free internet cafe and use some proxies. Change location every so often and everything should be fine (worst case the tracking ends at the cafe) .... as long as we are only talking about BH marketing

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Originally Posted by BuzzKill

One more reason to secure your wireless router.. I'll be watching for the UPS truck in my neighbors driveway..

**MR.blackhat** · #10 (**permalink**) 07-26-2008, 10:12 PM

Be safer next time or you might be sued