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Alright, short little intro, and then onto what i need

As i posted in an off topic thread, i recently quit my job to do im FULL time. i was doing quiet well with it. my main source of income came through my youtube video. I made my Own ORIGINAL content, that linked back to my money site.

This was working great, till one day, i wasnt making money. i ran to youtube to see that my videos were deleted. Due to "copyright claims by users"

The user was "Crooked Crook" i shit u not. thats what it said...

I quickly made new accounts and Reuploaded my videos. then i got really upset. someone had downloaded all my videos. and reuploaded them to various accounts and pointed them back to THERE money site *and they runnin some nasty PPI stuff*

Guys, this makes me sick. im worried now how imma pay the bills, while someone is using my vidoes, that i created, with my voice, to make money.

Screw that!

How can i get his videos removed / banned

I hear people saying that if u use tube increaser unwisely youtube will ban your videos. is there validity in this? im scared if i do it, ill just make his videos more popular.

Im just upset / scared right now.

ANY help is appreciated.

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Old 12-24-2009, 10:24 AM
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So basically, you quit your job, to work online making money from youtube?

Eh, you should have a base, to knowing what to do, when all methods stop working dude.

And about tubeincreaser shit thing. Why you ainīt putting his links in that tool, and making youtube ban his account.. "Revenge!"

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Old 12-24-2009, 10:30 AM
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Yeah, that's like true blackhat...old style, asshat, stealing... call it whatever you like..
Have you considered writing an e-mail to youtube first, or even calling them?

I mean, considering you said you actually made those videos, with your own voice, you could even prove those are yours. Why lowering yourself to that thief's level if there's no need for it?

Good luck, man!
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And about tubeincreaser shit thing. Why you ainīt putting his links in that tool, and making youtube ban his account.. "Revenge!"
will it really get his account banned, or will it just boost his views?

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Have you considered writing an e-mail to youtube first, or even calling them?

I mean, considering you said you actually made those videos, with your own voice, you could even prove those are yours. Why lowering yourself to that thief's level if there's no need for it?
I seriously doubt that youtube will understand when they see my video is for marketing, they dont really care. I have sent in a claim with them tho.

I used youtube for traffic to my websites. worked for damn near a year. thats why i quit my job.
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i recently quit my job to do im FULL time. i was doing quiet well with it. my main source of income came through my youtube video.

that must be ONE bad azz video........
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lol ok, even i had to laugh at your comment.

It was a good video + it had 500k views.

ugh. Im just worried guys, im sorry if im buggin you all.

I just did another dispute with youtube, but it looks like they even banned the gmail account associated with that youtube account.

sheesh
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looks like you put your self in mess................Why dont you create couple of new ass kicking videos and start marketting once again...........You said u mad them yourself that means u have talent
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no offence, but your an idiot quiting your full time job to do that, obviously it wasnt gonna keep an income forever
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looks like you put your self in mess................Why dont you create couple of new ass kicking videos and start marketting once again...........You said u mad them yourself that means u have talent
I agree but, this time embed your links within the videos.
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no offence, but your an idiot quiting your full time job to do that, obviously it wasnt gonna keep an income forever
So if you were making 9k a month from online work, and 2k a month at a dead end retail job, you wouldnt quit your retail job?

I had more than 1 site, about 7 total. and each site had about 3 vids associated with it. this guy got them all taken down.
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I agree but, this time embed your links within the videos.
I did that, but he edited them out. even when i audibly said the website address
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not sure about yt but one grandma advice for you

'dont put all your eggs in one basket'
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very true, unfortunatly, i found nothing that gets me hits/leads better
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why don't you share his site here and let the games begin.
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If you were making 9 Gs a month hopefully you kept enough back to keep you going for another month or two -- stop being scared and worried (and getting in your own way) and do it again with some tweaks. Rolling with this kind of thing and adapting to it just the nature of the beast, eh?
Best of luck to you.
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stop being scared and worried (and getting in your own way) and do it again with some tweaks
Thanks, i know what u mean. Im an odd person, and yah, i do have some to survive on, and i am still making a lil bit of money. not like i was. not even close. Unfortunatly i keep freaking out and get all panicy.

Im just trying to figure out if theres some way i can get this dudes vids removed.
Ive already taken steps like paying for traffic to my youtube videos , but thats a bit slow.

And How come we have the exact same video online, same key words, he has 2k views I have 7k views, yet his video shows up first on youtube? just dont make sense
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:45 AM
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I would try to get a new youtubeaccount or simply write youtube from another email they dont know of. Tell them that youre the owner of the videos and that your account wasnt infringing copyright.
If that doesnt help I would take legal actions. You should have some money left... I wouldnt let go this bastard with this because if you start again he will earn your work again.
I think when youtube gets message from lawyer they will look into the case. Maybe you can even demand compensation because youtube deleted your vids? But I dont think that you have the right to host videos there and youtube wouldnt be in charge. But who knows... Ask a lawyer about that.
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If that doesnt help I would take legal actions. You should have some money left...
I do have more youtube accounts, but its like My Old Video Is Now My competition! Gah!
And as for a lawyer? Uhm, i do have enough money to hopefully last me through this but i cant be spending it on a lawyer. i mean. bah.

Also Get This.

My youtube account and gmail account associated with said youtube account were suspended the same day.

Youtube wont give me any info about anything unless i email them from the account i signed up with, WHICH IS THE SAME ACCOUNT in question.

.... im sorry, but thats dumb. they wont take just my username and password
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Falsley claiming copyright on a youtube video is illegal.
If the whole video was really created by yourself, you can make a counter-claim.

Here's some information about that:
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Subsection (g)(1) gives the subscriber the opportunity to respond to the notice and takedown by filing a counter notification... If the subscriber serves a counter notification complying with statutory requirements, including a statement under penalty of perjury that the material was removed or disabled through mistake or misidentification, then unless the copyright owner files an action seeking a court order against the subscriber, the service provider must put the material back up within 10-14 business days after receiving the counter notification.
The video should be yours again after a few days, unless the guy files an action seeking a court order, which he probably won't.

Good luck, and keep us updated.
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You said 9K a month. So what will a lawyer cost?
Again its a game of looking at the two ways. You could pay a lawyer and maybe get your incomesource back or you spare your money and can live with this money some more weeks. And you have to build your income from the scratch.

So whats the best choice?
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Falsley claiming copyright on a youtube video is illegal.
If the whole video was really created by yourself, you can make a counter-claim.
Exactly, And My account was suspended without warning. When i first logged in it gave me a screen about a copyright infringment page and who it was from. no dispute claim or anything

Now when i try to log in it just takes me to a google accounts page about how my account is suspended *get the same exact page when loading the gmail account*

So, ive sent emails off to youtube (with above stupid reply of please email us from the account you signed up with)
AND ive sent off emails to gmail about why the hell you suspended my gmail account.

LETS pretend for a second, that my video did infringe someones copyright. WTF does that have to do with a gmail account?

*sigh*

We shall see. I guess i got the waiting game to play now.

But im still working on new vids and other things. I only hope it pays off
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So whats the best choice?
If i knew the answer to that, id be happy.

Lets say A, I Pay a Lawyer And He wins. yay. ANd Mr McDoucheypants has his video deleted. Still leaves me without a video with 500k which im sure youtube will not just throw back up online with the same number of views it had?

I mean, its risk / reward, as life is. But i dont see me throwing money at a lawyer right now a good idea. ive got rent / electric / car payment etc...

Like i said im still making a little money now, and i do have a lil savings to help out.

I was making 9k a month and only have little savings? Yah.
Why?
MeSSY Divorce = $$$$$$$$$$

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PLEASE dont take this as me arguing with you! Thats not what Im doing at all, I respect anything you have to see with me. Im just kinda explaining my side of the story. im sorry if this seems like im trying to argue with you, I am not. And Thank you for what you have said.

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Exactly, And My account was suspended without warning. When i first logged in it gave me a screen about a copyright infringment page and who it was from. no dispute claim or anything

Now when i try to log in it just takes me to a google accounts page about how my account is suspended *get the same exact page when loading the gmail account*

So, ive sent emails off to youtube (with above stupid reply of please email us from the account you signed up with)
AND ive sent off emails to gmail about why the hell you suspended my gmail account.

LETS pretend for a second, that my video did infringe someones copyright. WTF does that have to do with a gmail account?

*sigh*

We shall see. I guess i got the waiting game to play now.

But im still working on new vids and other things. I only hope it pays off
Well, that's weird. The guy obviously knew what he was doing.

Anyway, just keep sending them emails and once you've got access to your youtube account again, make a counter-claim. The other guy will probably back off after that.
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I used this once to come over a possible messy legal situation and I paid just a cent less than $10. Infact I made some good money from that situation after getting my facts right. May be it can help you too. The place is http://forum.freeadvice.com/

To the Mods : I am not promoting anything here. I know the rules and you can ban my account if you feel like. I am just trying to help.
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@johnnyFIVE

I dont see you arguing. Your right its open if your income is reinstated when you would win because you dont know where your vids are listed then.
I think it should be possible for youtube to simply reinstate them but I dont know if they do. But they show them as copyright infringement. That means they keep all the data at that moment. So theres a chance in my eyes.

If I would be in your case now and I would be unsure what to do I would go the cheap way first and go to a forum for rights. In my country there are a couple of them so sure in your too. So I would find the right forum and ask there. Mostly you get good enough answers to get a view of your legal position and the chances. EDIT: 1link seems to find a forum for you...

However... next time when you make money get one or more completely different approaches to have income. Maybe simply buy websites that make nonfaked income. Especially when having not a job anymore.

Hope you solve it...
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Post the link here I'm sure some people want to help you whit ddos-ing here.. Or you could deface his site or shit..
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Post the link here I'm sure some people want to help you whit ddos-ing here.. Or you could deface his site or shit..
Don't you mean: "Post his site here so we can steal your idea." ?
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So if you were making 9k a month from online work, and 2k a month at a dead end retail job, you wouldnt quit your retail job?

I had more than 1 site, about 7 total. and each site had about 3 vids associated with it. this guy got them all taken down.
I see what your saying, but you should have been patient and stuck it out a while longer at your job.

i mean videos are the only thing keeping your income its not reliable. However, if you had good google rankings, and sold some sort of subscription service that is a lot safer,( eg you sold hosting) if you did somehow loose your rankings, you still have your customers so its going to take ages for your income to deplete ...

if you get my drift, leaving your job doesnt always depend on income of your online work alone you have to think of other things
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I've gotten screwed through the copyright BS. It's damn near impossible to get back where you were. I reuploaded but views went to zerooo obviously and never really recoverd for that vid.

Make new stuff. Post it as reply videos to the scammers videos.
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