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    Default [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    I get a lot of PMs by new members and even old ones asking for suggestion on keywords they have selected. They say that "Google says the competition is low" by looking at the competition bar (pic below) in the Google Keyword Tool.



    Well guys..I've got some bad news for you. This is NOT the SEO competition, it is actually competition for advertisers, the amount of bidding going on for that particular keyword. So if you are making an Adsense site, you want the competition to be "High" in the Google Keyword Tool.

    More Competition=More Bidders=Better Payout

    There are other ways of analyzing competition for a keyword which are explained HERE and HERE by IamNRE. So I won't repeat that, but don't judge the competition of a keyword by the bar shown above.

    It's called the Adwords keyword tool - not the SEO keyword tool.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    You haven't selected [Exact] Match

    BTW,yes,this is a mistake which many people make.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by youssfy View Post
    You haven't selected [Exact] Match

    BTW,yes,this is a mistake which many people make.
    I just pulled out an image from Google That's why I provided a link for proper keyword research after the post.
    Yes this is a very common mistake...even I realized it after I spent a fair amount of time in IM.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    haha, When i was a noob, i also used to think like that

    Thanks for making a good post educating noobs

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by MadMaddy View Post
    haha, When i was a noob, i also used to think like that
    Same here! Thanks to BHW!

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    Thanks! Definitely will be helpful ! +rep added !


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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Yes, a big search issue.

    Anothe tip: I have a theory to analize the "quality" of keywords, if they have an high cost in CPC, it means that this keyword have commerce value and it can bring you people interested in buy some product or service.

    This is a simply idea and maybe doesn't work for some niches, but, there's always a reason why people are paying for a keyword between others, and it helps to find the good ones

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by Seolic View Post
    Anothe tip: I have a theory to analize the "quality" of keywords, if they have an high cost in CPC, it means that this keyword have commerce value and it can bring you people interested in buy some product or service.
    Yes, Like I said..if you have an Adsense site..look for a keyword with decent CPC competition.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Damn I'm selling keywords from 2 years and thought it's seo competition
    hope my clients don't read this ....

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Thanks For This Jeevs...........
    Even I Too Thinking Like This..............

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    I'm glad I've read this.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Forgive me for my opposition but I disagree with you guys. Yes that "statement" shows competition for advertisers. But it is also a remark for publishers too.

    If there are so many advertisers in that area and if they are competing wildly, simply there will be harsh competition for taking place in SERPs. For example, we can see that most of EMDs overlapping those "high" competition keywords have already been bought. Or we may notice many authority sites trying to be on the first page regarding those terms.

    After my experience of 3 years with hundreds of domains/sites, I may say that those competition statements (high, medium, low) are generally valid for publishers too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustedfire9 View Post
    Damn I'm selling keywords from 2 years and thought it's seo competition
    hope my clients don't read this ....
    Now this made my day... Thanks needed a laugh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by trustedfire9 View Post
    Damn I'm selling keywords from 2 years and thought it's seo competition
    hope my clients don't read this ....
    Oh my dear God, I hope this is not true
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    Quote Originally Posted by trustedfire9 View Post
    Damn I'm selling keywords from 2 years and thought it's seo competition
    hope my clients don't read this ....
    lol Post of the day!

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    I've had dozens of clients come to me with this misconception. It's got to be more widely misunderstood than the 'broad' vs 'exact' check box.

    I mean, it's called the Adwords keyword tool - not the SEO keyword tool.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    I also used to think in that way only earlier then I attended an Adwords course and things became more clear.

    I still often forget to click on 'Exact' while doing quick searches.

    Stupid mistakes.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by myownhero View Post
    I mean, it's called the Adwords keyword tool - not the SEO keyword tool.
    This pretty much concludes the story! Thanks, adding it to the post now
    Last edited by Jeevs; 02-04-2013 at 03:36 AM.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Holy crap! Thanks a lot for this. I had read a good amount on finding the right keywords by messing around w/ global and local filters but I kept avoiding great key phrases for THIS reason! Now I'm not going to fear the 'high' label.

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    wow.. i didnt knew it and the videos and pdfs i read... they didnt knew it either or forgot to share !! lol.. so simple and yet so....

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Thanks mate

    When I was noob I look keyword with " " in google

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Bump! Coz I still see people confused about it! Here

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    Lol! Kinda thought that was it a few weeks back. Where's the accompanying maniacal laughter?

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Lol, I have seen so many people come to me and say they got an amazing domain. You look at what they got. They never checked the exact match and also looked at advertiser competition :P They feel kind of gutted when you tell them
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    Quote Originally Posted by pompano View Post
    Lol, I have seen so many people come to me and say they got an amazing domain. You look at what they got. They never checked the exact match and also looked at advertiser competition :P They feel kind of gutted when you tell them
    This is what motivated me to create this thread

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    Great...Thanks

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Yeah really most of marketers get confused on this. this is only for ppc but wait we can use that for SEO as well.

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    Default [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    I felt like such an idiot when I found this out. I am just grateful that you were there to help. I honestly had thought I had done my research correctly. I watched all kinds of videos on YouTube saying this was the correct way. Not to mention some other websites saying the same thing. I really believed that these people knew what they were talking about. You would not believe how many people are teaching this the wrong way, especially on YouTube. It's insane.

    That just goes to show, you really can't believe everything you hear about seo. Luckily, my website was new and I was able to fix things easily. Thanks for helping out the noobs, it's very much appreciated.

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    Thanks for pointing the right direction for noobs like me.


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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by jhakasseo View Post
    Yeah really most of marketers get confused on this. this is only for ppc but wait we can use that for SEO as well.
    Sure we can...we can look for "profitable" keywords using that competition bar....but surely not "low competition" keyword.

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    be careful for newbie..

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustedfire9 View Post
    Damn I'm selling keywords from 2 years and thought it's seo competition
    hope my clients don't read this ....
    :LOL: That's hilarious.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Hahah. Yeah I see this a lot too. If you guys want a great tool for analyzing SEO competition check out serpiq.com. Breaks everything down into CI scores (Competition Index), from 0 to 100, with 0 being easiest, and 100 being the hardest to rank. It has all kinds of other juicy data too.

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    How i can even analyze keywords?

    Sorry, but as much i was paid for adsense, during december, i am not paid as much now, if we go by CPC. So?

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    Dang I missed this one Thanks for sharing again. Now I gotta get scrape box lol.

    serpiq.com
    Need credit card deets for this one so I pass, thanks for sharing though.
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    Thank you so much!

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    I was not sure about this. Thank you for this explain.

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    Lol, someone answer my question, plox?

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    lol I recently had a prospective client who had the same issue. Kind of not surprised though, sometimes I speak to people who don't realise that there are ads on Google search -- at all. When I point it out they go, "oh I thought they were recommended links".

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    wow!! seriously this is the first time i have heard this, i always went for the low. thanks very much.

    please my question is this, how can you know if the keyword is rankable after the keyword research? please can you share it using any tool. i just want to know what to consider. thanks

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    thank you so much this was really helpfull for a nooooooooooooooooooob like me

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    Thanks, that was i looking for!

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    Default Re: [Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by damizille View Post
    wow!! seriously this is the first time i have heard this, i always went for the low. thanks very much.

    please my question is this, how can you know if the keyword is rankable after the keyword research? please can you share it using any tool. i just want to know what to consider. thanks
    Read the first post. There are at least 2 links given to help you out figure keywords research.

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