Hello Friends,
This happened second time. I m honest, but still Scammed.
This time, its with this auction
1. https://flippa.com/auctions/117696
Every thing went smoothly. On 27 Jan I get message from the winner of this auction
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Hello Luckyman,
Can i return back this site to you? It has legal issue.
Please refer to the below email that i've receive from Paypal:
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2. My reply was..
site was sold for $160. Let me tell me some facts, then u take the decision.
Cost for listing at flippa was $19 + flippa success fees. it was i think $5, then PP change some thing. In short i get around $130 from you. If i include cost of report and sales letter. And one day of auction. I already delivered every thing as I promise. And now after 26 days u are asking for refund. You are also flipper, suggest me what should i do? I did not make any thing with it. in fact it was sold at loss.
Now after reading it, that u get only one sales, for what so ever reason, that is also refunded. SO.....you also lost (. its very sad, I never want, that this happened.
The best thing we can do now is.
1. Please get another domain name
2. set with 2 checkout. Use the same sales letter. ( the only issue is, problem with domain name)
3. we will do seo part for u, including posting at classified sites. for free ( as we did for that site)
4. In few days u will get some sales, and 2 checkout will pay u by wire.
5. And in this way u will cover the cost.
Believe me, this is the best solution i can suggest you. really nothing left for refund. the only thing is that i help in building links so u can make profits.
thanks
If u do not agree with me, then please give me your suggestion, lets try to come to, a solution, which suits both of us.
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3. I never get any message from him but Flippa suspend my account. I though, its due to Trade mark issue
4. Today i get message from Flippa
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In order to have your Flippa account reinstated, we will require you to arrange an immediate, full refund to the winning
bidder for listing # 117696. We will restore your account access once we have received an email confirmation from the winning bidder confirming they have received the refund.
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5. $160 is not an issue. My point is, why Flippa suspend my account? Secondly, they did not ask my any thing.
Lastly, This happened second time now. I m honest from day one. In first case, a user open a claim in 40 day with PP, and i lost $780. Matter is still pending. I know, I m scammed.
And now, When site is performing, every thing was as described, why Flippa suspend my account?
Now the question is, Flippa is the safe option to sell the sites? Because, although u are doing every thing right still u can loss every thing or Flippa can suspend your account, without asking you any thing. By the way, after 2 scams in the row, i m not going to use them any more.
I send this message to there support, let me see, what they have to say now...)
Thanks
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Thanks for contacting Flippa Customer Support.
In order to have your Flippa account reinstated, we will require you to arrange an immediate, full refund to the winning
bidder for listing # 117696. We will restore your account access once we have received an email confirmation from the winning bidder confirming they have received the refund.
Kind Regards,
Flippa Customer Support.
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hello,
I m confused now, after reading this. "In order to have your Flippa account reinstated, we will require you to arrange an immediate, full refund to the winning bidder for listing # 117696."
Now please tell me, why Flippa suspend my account? Last time I was informed that, "Winning bidder for listing # 117696 received cease and desist letter from PayPal - please contact Flippa Support to discuss further."
Is it Trade mark issue of Paypal or Flippa suspend my account for refund request of $160 of this auction 117696.
I m using Flippa since July, I m your Clint too. I have right to ask the question, That's why I m asking.
Winner of this auction "117696", send a letter to Flippa, and you suspend my account, and Flippa don't bother to ask me any thing. Just suspend the account. I think you should listen me first. For example, Judicatory here case of both parties then take decision. But in this case, one party make a complaint, you did not ask me ( the other part) any thing, just suspend my account. To be honest, its very irresponsible practices. Flippa should reanalysis it self too.
Now As, Flippa is asking me for Full refund, provided every thing is true, all sales traffic details are correct, every thing is delivered, give full support. By the way user ask me for partial refund and Flippa want for full refund.
Any ways, Before taking any decision, about refund, let me tell u the back ground.
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1. Its related to this auction, https://flippa.com/auctions/117696
2. Transition went smoothly.
3. On 27th JAN i get this message from azidah
Hello Luckyman,
Can i return back this site to you? It has legal issue.
Please refer to the below email that i've receive from Paypal:
4. This is my reply to here...
Well. site was sold for $160. Let me tell me some facts, then u take the decision.
Cost for listing at flippa was $19 + flippa success fees. it was i think $5, then PP change some thing. In short i get around $130 from you. If i include cost of report and sales letter. And one day of auction. I already delivered every thing as I promise. And now after 26 days u are asking for refund. You are also flipper, suggest me what should i do? I did not make any thing with it. in fact it was sold at loss.
Now after reading it, that u get only one sales, for what so ever reason, that is also refunded. SO.....you also lost (. its very sad, I never want, that this happened.
The best thing we can do now is.
1. Please get another domain name
2. set with 2 checkout. Use the same sales letter. ( the only issue is, problem with domain name)
3. we will do seo part for u, including posting at classified sites. for free ( as we did for that site)
4. In few days u will get some sales, and 2 checkout will pay u by wire.
5. And in this way u will cover the cost.
Believe me, this is the best solution i can suggest you. really nothing left for refund. the only thing is that i help in building links so u can make profits.
thanks
If u do not agree with me, then please give me your suggestion, lets try to come to, a solution, which suits both of us.
5. I never get any message from her again, but flippa suspend my account. Without asking my any thing. Very strange.
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okay, I m ready to refund, But what about
1. Flippa Listing Fee
2. Flippa Success Fee
3. She send with paypal, so i have to beer the cost?
4. The cost of report + bonus.
Flippa is planning to Pay me? Can Flippa give me Guarantee, that it will not be used or Give to others?
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Its good to see, that Flippa is very proactive, but What's the flippa stand in this case?
https://flippa.com/auctions/113541
Sites were performing as I described. But on 40th day, winner of the auction Open a case at paypal, and $780 is blocked. I informed flippa about it. What happened there? Nothing. Did Flippa intervene there? NO. Did Flippa suspend that account? https://flippa.com/users/273450. The answer is NO again.
Now, the question is, why Flippa in inactive in this case?
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Flippa Suspend my account because "for guideline violations."
These are Flippa Guideline ?
1. Buyer can bid on any site, And he is not liable to buy or not to buy. (this happened in past, and Flippa didn't do any thing)
2. Even if site is working as described, Buyer can open dispute with paypal and Steal money, Even then Flippa will not do any thing? Correct? This happened too, Please check your records.
3. And in case of E-books, Every thing is fine, But After 20 -25 days, due to any reason ( legal issue, then I agree to do SEO for her for free), buyer open a case, and flippa will suspend my account? even without hearing me or give an opportunity to tell my point, Flippa suspend that account.
Do you thing is it justice? Do you thing Flippa is working in Fair way? Flippa needs to analysis its working.
In this case (117696), user never ask for Full refund ( provide every thing is delivered to him), he contact Flippa, and Flippa suspend my account, without asking me the reason or give me an opportunity to put my point. Well if user open a claim at Paypal, the same thing happened. PP will investigate the matter, and for no reason I lost the money again.
Honestly, sites Like Flippa are only working because of sellers, if this is the attitude, who is going to sell sites?
Any ways, i m ready for refund, because buyer can open case at paypal too ). Now Please tell me about, 1. Flippa Listing Fee 2. Flippa Success Fee. Will Flippa refund it, or i have to bear it too?
Thanks




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