I'm not that guy who likes to annoy people or get in fights. But I saw something a few days ago that really made me angry.


Jameson Brandon (fbleadwizard) organized a webinar about some FB stuff and he invited Mitch Sanders to talk about his product for FB marketers (he probably invited himself and offered Jameson a percentage of revenue)


So I'll show you an insert where Mitch created FB ad for a clickbank product. About 10 minutes later, he refreshed his »new« CB account and he already had 100$ in commissions. During the seminar, I asked him several times to show me the FB ads manager again and he simply ignored me.
Since Facebook almost never approves ads so quickly, I was suspicious right from the start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1znBI0mbNE
Watch in HD to see tiny but important facts. ==> http://www.youtube.com/embed/u1znBI0mbNE?hd=1

But here comes the kicker!! At the end he says: good bye, ends the webinar, but he didn’t turn off the screen cast (noob-ish mistake right?). So what I saw about 5 min later was so DISGUSTING that I had to do something. I was still up because I was studying for some stupid statistics exam


I saw him get back into his FB ads manager, and delete the affiliate ad he created during the webinar. The ad had 0 clicks!


I literally jumped on my keyboard and took a screenshot as fast as I could (he already started deleting the ad). You'll notice the headers are all the same, the background object, other ads, and most importantly, ZERO clicks! (fucking scammer). You will also notice that I personally made this recording because it was already past 3 AM in the morning and I didn’t want to miss anything. My only regret is that I didn’t leave the recording running and go to bed. If I would be lazier, I would caught the entire thing on video




I tried to contact Jameson and I told him he invited a scammer into his webinar but he obviously doesn’t want to speak with me and is happy to collect the commissions. The product was selling for 2.000$ so this was serious money for all people on the webinar.

Mitch Sanders is a lying, cheating, broke bastard and Jameson Brandon is no better because he obviously knows what’s going on and he sent the people on his list to Mitch. It makes me sick:S This is not some usual WSO scam fro 10$, with that amount of investment, he is actually destroying people lives and most of them will abandon their IM dreams because of this bad experience.

Let me repeat the name again and if there is any justice in this world, Google will rank them high. Mitch Sanders is a scammer and everyone who is in IM should know this.

Most of these guys have google alerts set up for themselves so will be interesting to see if he responds on this thread. Pretty explosive stuff if what your saying is correct, well done for posting here if that's the case!

I'm glad you posted this. I was reading your service thread for facebook ads yesterday and lost the link. I will order now.

wow. I know mitch personally, i met him at a clickbank semeinar in orlando back in February. i went out to eat with him a few times and had a good time he seemed like a great guy. we're friends on facebook and he makes big bank (he's definitely not broke) and often posts some stories about his product helping others, he seemed like a guy who believes in karma and is out to make a positive impact on the world. I haven't gotten to talk to him much about his own products, which i believe are clickbank products, i think they have to do with the art of webinars or something maybe. I'm really not sure what to say about all this i don't doubt you OP I'm just a little disappointed he seemed like a good guy and was looking forward to hanging out with him at ASW. hm. disillusioned right now idk what to think

I’m not saying that his products doesn’t work. I didn’t buy anything from him and I can’t judge that. All I’m saying is that he lied to his customers on this webinar and he was trying to trick them to buy from him. I don’t understand why would he do this and risk getting caught when he, supposedly, is earning that much. Why scam a few people and destroy your reputation. It makes no sense.

He obviously used a friend to buy through his affiliate CB links during the webinar to fake earnings data. Those sales didn’t come from that ad.

I wouldn’t post this if Jameson would respond to my emails and apologize to people on his list.

As a long time member of BHW... I can say that this sounds a bit fishy.
Why? Well before I tell you, let me say that I have met mitch once,though I have never seen this FB product of his and I have not watched the webinar in full. In addition I dont know anything about the OP.

But just based on what I can see, this sounds like a deliberate smear job. The first reason is the clever editing of the video. I mean... doesnt the OP have anything better to do than spend hours chopping up a webinar into a cleaned edited video obviously made to "prove a point" ???!???? secondly.. what does the video actually show us? It it a summary of a typical sales webinar. ie..
1 - Guy does a technique
2 - Guy shows technique makes him money
3 - Guy wants you to buy his shit

Big fucking deal! ever goto a webinar? they are all the same. maybe mitch doesnt have a face you want to fuck so you are more suspicious of him, maybe if he was from La Jolla and spoke smoothly and had a cool-guy beard you would fawn over him more.... but all these "webinar" guys are all following the exact same formula. No different. So that video basically doesnt tell me anything. Then...

this OP goes and shows us some screenshot... from where.. i dont know. and when? I dont know either. It could be from anything, anytime. Maybe from Mitches screen, maybe not? Maybe it was his own screen. Maybe it was Mitches screen earlier. I have no idea.

The point it that it is suspect. This combined with the fact that this OP obviously has a chip on his shoulder against that Jameson fellow means that Mitch is getting pulled into some personal grudge between the OP and JAmeson.

I am not here to argue with the OP, cause I really dont know, I wasn't there, but just look at the facts a little and give Mitch the benefit of the doubt here as we are jumping to some radical conclusions based on circumstantial evidence. .

Thanks
-Ava

Talked to Mitch for a few min last night last thing I mentioned was if he would consider explaining himself. He got off before i got a response. I don't think he's too concerned, regardless of what he did if he faked it or not, he's making money doing webinars, maybe he's using BH techniques against other IMers which I can understand is upsetting, although it's similar to promising a video of a TV episode after a content locker gets you to do a email submit then there is no video - at its core, the basic concept is the same. I understand the product involves a lot of $$$. But is this a whole lot different then when some guy spends thousands on the 100s of cheaper ebooks on WF that will get him nowhere? Not really. Should his product actually be useful? Of course. But to single him out as an extra extra bad guy, I'm not sure about. I'd need more details. Just my 2 cents