So i think another rep+++ member is going to come in here!

As you can see in 8/11 KlaAzor made this thread
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...ing-ready.html

I went to help him because he is a donor and have a lot of reputation and he only asked for 59$ because he wanted to get a sales thread in WF!
So he added me on skype gave me instractions what to do completed the payment and he told me that in 1 week i will have 100$ back!

so after 1 week i chat on skype --->
[11/15/2011 129 AM] tavou: good morning my friend
[11/15/2011 136 AM] tavou: how is your sales thread at Warrior forum goes ?
[11/15/2011 224 AM] tavou: mate?

No answer so i contact him later--->
tavou
[11/15/2011 12:52:26 PM] tavou: mate :O?

no answer again and i see that he is online here in BHW and i sent him a PM that im trying to find him and he is not answering...
no answer again!

Then after 1 day i try to talk to him on skype--->
[11/16/2011 142 AM] tavou: are you here?
[11/16/2011 127 AM] tavou: ok mate what is happening im talking to you 1 day before and i sent you message in BHW and you are online posting on threads and dont answering to me...

No answer again (he was online on skype when i send those messages)
so after some hours i write this--->
[11/16/2011 8:53:21 AM] tavou: ok mate why you are not answering to me ? i pmed you in BHW and im talking to you 2 days now
[11/16/2011 8:53:50 AM] tavou: you are posting on BHW and you dont even answer to me...i will wait 2-3 days more for your answer
[11/16/2011 8:54:20 AM] tavou: dont make me open a thread in BHW...

and after 2-3 minutes i get a PM here from him saying this:
I am not on skype atm,

-KlaAz0r
seriously???? he is online all the time posting threads EVEN changing his avatars and signature and he is not answering to me...never...
I told him that i want the money until the end of sunday or i will open a thread here!
He is online on skype now and he is online here and he is not answering to me!

Good game mate....

Another? This is getting old. Anxious to hear from KlaAz0r

Let's see his reply

Originally Posted by JohnnyRabbit

Let's see his reply

He was online like 6 of 7 days of the week and never answered to me...maybe now he will...

Can't judge anything at the moment. Let's hear his side too.

I spent about 3 hours doing extensive revisions on the eBook so it could be ready to be sold for him, and thought I had made it clear as possible that regardless of sales I expected to be paid. I'm afraid his english is just too bad to fully understand what I meant? IDK. He wasn't responding to me on skype either so I sent him a PM. then he said he was waiting on someone to fund the cost to get it on WF, and once he did that and made some sales he'd pay me....I'm tired of stressing over stuff like this so I decided to just wait a week or 2 before I bug him again. eh. so thats my side or whatnot in it all.

Originally Posted by JohnnyRabbit

Let's see his reply

hahahaha... wats up.

Originally Posted by Virus1

hahahaha... wats up.

haha, My bro. Happy early thanksgiving!

Hit me up once a while!

Originally Posted by JohnnyRabbit

haha, My bro. Happy early thanksgiving!

Hit me up once a while!

Let me get on skyp .. right now. are you on skype.. hit me up.

So let me get this straight.

He was asking for a small investment for his joint venture , then he stops replying to your pms on bhw and skype. Strange if you ask me, especially when he claims to be part of the 1%
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...ml#post3425862

I thought he would be able to afford that small investment, nevertheless atleast pay it back.
Its okay OP i dont expect you to read through his 2 posts a day, but if you take your time you can see some major bullshit. lol 1% percentage i laugh so hard when you posted this thread as i remember him posting that a while ago.

From his sales thread on WF, doesn't look like there was any interest and I can't really say that I'm surprised. While the idea might have merit, publishing something with a test subject pool of one never did make any sense.

OP/m0nster, hope it works out for you but I think he may have been a little deluded about how important his work was (which kind of makes the conclusions in his report even more suspect) and decided that your investment/contribution wasn't worth paying.

ND

To lose all his rep on BHW for $59 is something I don't believe, no matter how little amount of money he has...

I think there is more to this, and hopefully if KlaAz0r does owe you the money he will pay it back in full.

From the time i posted this thread he is online here and on skype...and nothing...as everyday!
Question: i see in other shit lists that mods come . do i have to pm a mod or they will be here soon ?

Originally Posted by sk8tavou

From the time i posted this thread he is online here and on skype...and nothing...as everyday!
Question: i see in other shit lists that mods come . do i have to pm a mod or they will be here soon ?

Well don't be hasty. If he really did scam you , you ain't getting anything ever so why rush it ? Hope everything resolves well.

Originally Posted by Virus1

Let me get on skyp .. right now. are you on skype.. hit me up.

last time we talked was 9/10/2011

Originally Posted by JohnnyRabbit

last time we talked was 9/10/2011

Get a room you two.

no no i was just asking...i dont think i will get any money back! 2 weeks now the only answer i got was "im not at skype now" when he opened 3 new threads here so i dont wait for something...i just wanted to warn my true brothers here in BHW

You're out 59.00?

It's like 5 - 6 days?

PM me your Paypal and I'll send you 59.00 and you can close this thread.

1) i can wait more days if he was talking to me so i can understand if something happend to him!
2)why i will close this thread if he doesnt answer? so he can scam other people and get their money ?

mate i dont want to slam the guy or anything!As i told you after i pay for him he never answered to me...never...but after i made the payment he made a lot of posts here and he opened 3 new threads!
He doesnt respected me so i dont respect him back!
As i told you before if he was talking to me and answering and told me that he had problems then yes ok i will wait !
Im never pushing someone because i dont want the others to push me in difficult times!
And about the money i dont care about if they were 10$ or 59$ or 100$ or more!
every scam is a scam!
If i lived in a 3rd world country those 59$ will be a tresure to me!


Anyway im more than happy that you want to help both of us but i want to see his reply! Why he can get away with not even an asnwer?

what about me >.>

if I were OP I would want klaaz0r to pay himself. I just think he should man up to his actions. I think i read somewhere he's 16? its irrelevant maybe but I'm just saying he should take responsibility regardless.

$50 isn't that much to me, but its principle and if I don't put my foot down everytime, it can add up. I've had a few of these instances.

Originally Posted by proxygo

no offence donor or not
any member who has the courtesy to give u 60$
should at least have the decency to reply, no excuses.
if there on skype online - on bhw online - dont make excuses
or offer to pay just to cover hiss ass because hes being to
bone idle to reply. same old thing with these shit lists
member wants money - member given money - member ignores you
sound familiar ?

KlaAz0r
Last Activity: Today 03:10 PM

if the guy wont reply to anyone i wouldnt pay his debt

thank you agreed. (ran out of "thank you's")

Originally Posted by BassTrackerBoats

You're out of line in my opinion... it's been just a few days... I offered to cover your expense but you still want to slam the guy.

It's 59 bucks, Dude, not a lot of cash and I am willing to cover him as a favor to both of you and you don't want me to?

What in the world?

I'm still willing to help both of you out but you'll need to PM me your PP account info.

It's not about 59 bucks dude...it's about integrity. If you say you're going to do something then do it. PERIOD!! If the guy wants to call him out for not following up on a deal then he has every right to do it.

The guy shouldn't of been asking for 59 dollars anyway. If you don't have 59 dollars then you don't need to be doing internet marketing.

Originally Posted by sk8tavou

mate i dont want to slam the guy or anything!As i told you after i pay for him he never answered to me...never...but after i made the payment he made a lot of posts here and he opened 3 new threads!
He doesnt respected me so i dont respect him back!
As i told you before if he was talking to me and answering and told me that he had problems then yes ok i will wait !
Im never pushing someone because i dont want the others to push me in difficult times!
And about the money i dont care about if they were 10$ or 59$ or 100$ or more!
every scam is a scam!
If i lived in a 3rd world country those 59$ will be a tresure to me!


Anyway im more than happy that you want to help both of us but i want to see his reply! Why he can get away with not even an asnwer?

I guess my thinking is that the communication venues online are not the same as face to face.

I do not always get skype messages, I do miss emails and I get a lot of PMs on here so I fail at times to communicate properly.

Is that my fault? I guess it is to an extent but I miss things and not intentionally.

I don't know Klazor personally but have communicated with him enough to not think him a scammer and that is why I am willing to cover the guy.

so this guy KlaAz0r took the money on the 15th november

He didnt got the money on 15 of november.
15 of november is 1 week later!the day that he supposed to give me 100$ back! *_*

I guess my thinking is that the communication venues online are not the same as face to face.

I do not always get skype messages, I do miss emails and I get a lot of PMs on here so I fail at times to communicate properly.

Is that my fault? I guess it is to an extent but I miss things and not intentionally.

I don't know Klazor personally but have communicated with him enough to not think him a scammer and that is why I am willing to cover the guy

Im understaing you my friend!But as i told you i tried to contact him SO MANY TIMES and he is not answering..i know he is no missing my emails or skype messages!He is ignoring me and continue posting here!...

EDIT: he is online on skype the whole time from the time i opened the thread and he is not answering to me! Just saying

also pm this to bigbuddy som1
its a shame when some1 helps you on your
way, then you just blatantly ignore them, then people
wonder why theres distrust on bhw,

11-08-2011, 12:40 PM
KlaAz0r
Everything is ready:
http://www.warriorforum.com/test-for...ml#post5015126
all I need is someone who can invest 19$+40$ for the WSO to start selling!
PM me (100$- return)

i dont see anywhere in there were it says give me money
then i ignore you. and dont give me that crap about age
if hes old enough ask for money as a donor member of what 16?
then hes old enough to answer for it if he can be on this forum and
on skype but refuse to reply to the guy who helped him
shit even if he had offered just to refund what he borrowed
thats better than just being a dick.

theres an ebook in this somewhere , lets all loan money from
other kind members - not pay it back - ignore the person we
borrowed it from - then get bhw to feel sorry for us for our age -
even though it didnt matter when it was borrowed, and let them
pay instead .. we have a winner

proxygo, idk if the age comment was direct towards what I said - if it was maybe i communicated my thoughts wrong, I agree with you. regardless he should take responsibility.

the last I heard from him was the 16th, haven't responded cause i've been traveling/working and then i saw this today.

mate you tell me if this is a communication issue!
here is the story in easy steps
-send message on skype....no answer
-send message on skype....no answer
-send pm on bhw .... no answer
-send pm on skype....no answer
-send pm on skype telling him that i will open a thread here about him and pm's me 5 minutes later in BHW and he is only saying 7-8 words "Im not on skype at the moment"
???????
-send message...send message...send message...send pm...and again no answer on anything!
I give a 0.01% on this to be a communication issue!Maybe i give a lot

I remember on WF, once KlaAz0r was called out as a scammer on two occasions and he haven't replied and just got away with it silently.

Guess it won't happen in this case.

KlaAz0r has been notified of this thread and should be along shortly. As soon as I get a response we'll move forward.

my conversation with him. Tried my best to get him to say he would pay me regardless of sales.



I've been busy working and traveling didn't realize how much time went by so I PMed him about 4 days ago.

That's 2 commitments to pay missed so far, waiting for his response.

yeah honestly to everyone giving their opinion about the amount of money and all, don't really think its any of your concern. Don't mind you posting it cause well, freedom of speech, but I don't agree. I want my money all the same. looks like I doubt we'll get it though OP. meh

These threads really have a way of growing legs lately, don't they?

No more posting past this point unless you are the OP, m0nster, or Klaazor (or unless you have relevant evidence to add). This is ridiculous and makes it impossible to find the relevant posts. We're giving the accused a reasonable amount of time to respond here.

ps - 68 posts of pure fluff deleted from this thread. Next image macro or "lol" post is in for it.

Thanks moderator for keeping this thread easy to read!

Yeah monster i dont think we will get our money back! :/
Im sad about it but im happy about some posts some members made here!
Im new to BHW family im going to my 3rd month now!But seriously i cant do a single day without reading here !
You are brothers!

Im sad about some people that said " all that mess for that little money and blah blah...seriously??? seriously???

Anyway no more off topics
Lets wait for his answer (forever?)

let me start with you will get your money back. that of course is my first priority!

for the skype issue, it was still active on my ipod (sorry for that)

atm I don't have any money to spent, but I am working with a close friend on a sales page with CMS system to make money again.

sk8tavou, sorry the plan didn't work out. very simple but I of course will pay the money back

the same for m0nster, I will pay for your proof read and make sure you also get the money.

I hope we can find some compromise add this moment to make sure not more problems will occur

When will you pay them back by Klaazor? A vague promise to pay isn't sufficient at this point. A day? Two days? Let me know what the terms are.

EDIT: Ive deleted your thread for your likes sites, your HAF requests, and your other JV proposals. Your only concern as of now should be settling this matter.

Originally Posted by 7878

When will you pay them back by Klaazor? A vague promise to pay isn't sufficient at this point. A day? Two days? Let me know what the terms are.

EDIT: Ive deleted your thread for your likes sites, your HAF requests, and your other JV proposals. Your only concern as of now should be settling this matter.

Not sooner then a week, I simply do not have any money atm. For sk8tavou it was an investment and it went wrong.but i will both pay you guys as soon as i have money

Originally Posted by KlaAz0r

Not sooner then a week, I simply do not have any money atm. For sk8tavou it was an investment and it went wrong.but i will both pay you guys as soon as i have money

being the 1% must be awesome

for the skype issue, it was still active on my ipod (sorry for that)

Active for 5-6 days?
and the only excuse here on ONE answer was "im not on skype at the moment" ?
oh god

Originally Posted by KlaAz0r

Not sooner then a week, I simply do not have any money atm. For sk8tavou it was an investment and it went wrong.but i will both pay you guys as soon as i have money

Even though that's still a bit vague for me, let's call it 1 week.

So, just to be crystal clear, by the 29th of November 2011 you'll have both of these guys refunded in full. I'll check back on this thread then to make sure it's handled. In the meantime Klaazor you obviously won't be permitted any more JV threads or promotional threads for your sites and/or affiliate programs. This is strictly to protect other members, so once you pay up as promised you can resume business as usual.

1 more day :P

I wonder if...he doesn't pay tomorrow, ban but don't delete his account, if he pays us let him have his account back, or let him have it back but take away donor, or something. its all up to mods...but if he doesn't pay by tomorrow it would give him incentive to actually pay us soon anyway. just a thought.

as always he doesnt reply on skype

tsk tsk the 1% is decreasing, a tip for the future never give out your $$$ like that to anybody without any assurance its better to pay in parts.