I made a $1000 order (285 numbers) on the 6.10.2011 of landlines.
Fortuante sent me 185 numbers and left the order open.
Until this day i didn't got the other 100 numbers ($350 worth)
I've tried Skype, his ticket system and his phone number.
He didn't replied to any of them. Also i saw on his main page that suddenly he lowered the prices what looks suspicious to me

I bought a lot of numbers from him in the last year , big order every time, and i hate that it came to this but that guy is under a rock for the last 18 days.

WOW, i only ordered 7 numbers and been waiting 5 days for him to deliver and he has not responded to me in the past 2 days. hopefully i hear something soon..

ok fortunate took care of me, i forgot that he did not work on part of the weekend so thats why he was not responding. got my numbers now so im all set

Originally Posted by sandilaffer

I made a $1000 order (285 numbers) on the 6.10.2011 of landlines.
Fortuante sent me 185 numbers and left the order open.
Until this day i didn't got the other 100 numbers ($350 worth)
I've tried Skype, his ticket system and his phone number.
He didn't replied to any of them. Also i saw on his main page that suddenly he lowered the prices what looks suspicious to me

I bought a lot of numbers from him in the last year , big order every time, and i hate that it came to this but that guy is under a rock for the last 18 days.

Hey sandilaffer try to to contact him again.because of that the sweetasian has been received his numbers.

Stay away from Fortuante (Fortuante username his banned now but he got a few others)
His website : uslandlines.com

No, i didn't got my numbers.
After Fortuante read my original post he sent me a msg on skype saying its BS and that i'm basically an asshole. I'm going to paste here all of our conversion but for those that don't want to read the all thing and suffer from our bad English i'll sum it up for you.
I payed $1000, $350 worth of numbers were missing from my order,Fortuante avoided me for 20 days, i tried msging him endless times on skype, by phone (on the times he suppose to answer) and in his ticket system. Nothing. When he saw this post (with his fake BHW username) he msged me on skype telling me i'm bs everyone and that he "FORGOT" and made threats that he'll send me useless numbers if i won't take down my post or reply that everything is ok now and he's a great guy. He is really something else

[25/10/2011 1009] sandilaffer: Hello
[25/10/2011 1052] sandilaffer: I made an order on the 06 October 2011
[25/10/2011 1059] sandilaffer: Payed you $1000
[25/10/2011 1011] sandilaffer: My order is still open in your ticket system
[25/10/2011 1940] US Landlines: our hours are 9am to 6pm M-F PST... we are not online at 1am
[25/10/2011 19:25:21] US Landlines: i read your BS on BHW... the lower price is a special that am running
[25/10/2011 1943] US Landlines: you did not place your order on 6.10.2011 but on 10.6.2011...
[25/10/2011 1938] US Landlines: last contact we have from you on skype, ticket sytem or phone? is on the oct 18th at 1am again...
[25/10/2011 1945] US Landlines: so rather than trying to contact us again... and see whats up or whats happening you took the way of a BS popst on BHW...
[25/10/2011 1956] US Landlines: like i was trying to SCAM you....and drop my price to SCAM others...
[25/10/2011 1938 | 1906 נערך] US Landlines: so when you come back at 1am you can address this issue i have with your BS post and in the mean time i will see what happen with your order and process it if it wasnt completed.
[26/10/2011 00:49:54] sandilaffer: If it takes 20 days to get service that i payed for from someone going to BHW is the only & last way to go
[26/10/2011 00:50:24] sandilaffer: I made the order 20 days ago, sent you msgs on skype and on your ticket system. You havn't replyed to both
[26/10/2011 00:50:42] sandilaffer: We work on diff time zones, still, a reply would be nice
[26/10/2011 00:51:12] sandilaffer: It's not the first or the second time i'm ordering numbers from you, all orders were completed after 3-4 days max
[26/10/2011 00:55:15] US Landlines: What ever, still dont excuse your bullshit post.,,
[26/10/2011 00:56:32] sandilaffer: This order took 20 and counting. Stop justifying your self and give me back my money or complete the order
[26/10/2011 00:57:01] sandilaffer: Its not? how many days i need to wait for it to be an excuse? 60? 90?
[26/10/2011 00:57:49] sandilaffer: I sent you a msg on your ticket system and waited 5 days before posting anything on BHW
[26/10/2011 0111] US Landlines: So maybe i forgot, for some one who orders alot like you say, maybe you should have send another message than to wait 5 days and post your bullshit...
[26/10/2011 0143] sandilaffer: I've waited for 20 f**** days, are you crazy?
[26/10/2011 0150 | 01:03:04 נערך] US Landlines: no your crazy... lets start with name calling now
[26/10/2011 01:03:11] sandilaffer: Check your records, i've ordered over $3000 worth of numbers from you, do you think i have a secret motive to deal with that sort of crap?
[26/10/2011 01:03:24] US Landlines: what part did you NOT understand what i siad...
[26/10/2011 01:04:47] sandilaffer: The part that you're being naive and think that i was born yesterday
[26/10/2011 0157] US Landlines: what do you thinks... i was born yesterday also... what part of my english dont you understand that i forgot....
[26/10/2011 0122] sandilaffer: Ok, you forgot. What now?
[26/10/2011 0148] US Landlines: READ WHAT I SIAD ABOVE....
[26/10/2011 0150] US Landlines: stil any reaonalble person would have message me agian, other than leaving it for 5 days and the calling me a scammer
[26/10/2011 0111] sandilaffer: So, after i'll delete my post on BHW you'll see what's going on with my order?
[26/10/2011 0126] sandilaffer: ?
[26/10/2011 0130] US Landlines: that harm is done... by what you did was not right... i can understand if you would have message me for days and i ignore you... but you didnt and the posted that i SCAM you...
[26/10/2011 0132] sandilaffer: Ok, i got that part, you think that yuo're right, i think that i'm right. I'm asking again, what now?
[26/10/2011 0136] US Landlines: am going to finsh your order, becuase i dont scam NO ONE...
[26/10/2011 0114] sandilaffer: Great. Msg me when you are done
[26/10/2011 1429 | 1446 נערך] US Landlines: ic you still letting everyone asume i still scam you...
[26/10/2011 1836] sandilaffer: I see that you didn't complet my order
[26/10/2011 1826] sandilaffer: When i'll get my numbers or my money i'll post the results there
[26/10/2011 2237] US Landlines: what part of my english dont you understand ... told you i will procees the rest...
[26/10/2011 2213] US Landlines: so in the mean time any decent guy would have posted something... that still wouldnt let people assume what bullshit you posted...
[1035] sandilaffer: I'm not writing anything untill you complete my order or give me back my money, i allready told you that.
And your arrogance doesn't make a lot of sense. I understand your english, i just don't buy it.
[1229 | 1227 נערך] US Landlines: This comming from some who based his post on a presumptuous claims or assumptions... guess you dont know the definition...
[12:46:37] sandilaffer: All i know is that i payed you $1000 3 weeks ago and still didn't got what i payed for
[12:47:58] US Landlines: your right, i did drop the ball... but stiil dont jutify you actions
[12:50:46] sandilaffer: My actions are a result from yours. Untill you complete my order you are wasting my time and yours.
[12:53:52 | 12:54:27 נערך] US Landlines: no your actions was a result of your arrogance ... you could have tryed to contant me again, before takening that action...
[12:55:37] sandilaffer: Enough. I'm not touching my thread untill you are done with my order. Are you going to proccess my order now or not?
[12:55:53 | 12:56:11 נערך] US Landlines: guess you dont read....
[12:57:07] sandilaffer: What's that suppose to mean
[12:58:28] sandilaffer: Are you going to continue being vague or talk to the point?
[12:59:40] US Landlines: Are you going to proccess my order now or not? guess you dont read....

[10/26/2011 159 PM] US Landlines: what part of my english dont you understand ... told you i will procees the rest...
[13:00:58] US Landlines: Now is that to the point.... or is it to vague for you?
[13:03:11] sandilaffer: Is to the point. Good job!
[13:03:24] sandilaffer: And if we are playing the copy paste game,
[13:03:27] sandilaffer: [02/10/2011 13:39:04] US Landlines: will take 2-3 days.... also
[02/10/2011 13:39:16] sandilaffer: no prob
[13:04:52] sandilaffer: Anyway, i'm waiting for your numbers. I wonder how many days it's going to take you
[1307] US Landlines: so its been only 1 day now, since you told me that we forgot part of the order...
[1319] sandilaffer: I'm hoping you won't "Forget" again that i payed you money
[1302] sandilaffer: And i hope i'll get them untill Sunday
[1343] US Landlines: LOL... smart one....
[1325] US Landlines: maybe i will forget to forward them who knows....
[1310] sandilaffer: Don't bother. I had enough with you, you can keep your numbers and you can keep the money. Have fun

I gave up, he can keep his crappy numbers and my $350. Thank god I got enough money and will still have food on my table with out those $$.
Those $350 are my contribution to the BHW community, to let everyone know what kind of a guy he his. I would suggest all of you avoiding him at all cost. Just be aware that it's not his first or second username on BHW, he got a few on here like other people have already mentioned.

Originally Posted by sandilaffer

Stay away from Fortuante (Fortuante username his banned now but he got a few others)
His website : uslandlines.com

No, i didn't got my numbers.
After Fortuante read my original post he sent me a msg on skype saying its BS and that i'm basically an asshole. I'm going to paste here all of our conversion but for those that don't want to read the all thing and suffer from our bad English i'll sum it up for you.
I payed $1000, $350 worth of numbers were missing from my order,Fortuante avoided me for 20 days, i tried msging him endless times on skype, by phone (on the times he suppose to answer) and in his ticket system. Nothing. When he saw this post (with his fake BHW username) he msged me on skype telling me i'm bs everyone and that he "FORGOT" and made threats that he'll send me useless numbers if i won't take down my post or reply that everything is ok now and he's a great guy. He is really something else




I gave up, he can keep his crappy numbers and my $350. Thank god I got enough money and will still have food on my table with out those $$.
Those $350 are my contribution to the BHW community, to let everyone know what kind of a guy he his. I would suggest all of you avoiding him at all cost. Just be aware that it's not his first or second username on BHW, he got a few on here like other people have already mentioned.

Wow this guy sounds deluded and a lot of times in the convo he just became a seventh grader. He was being unreasonable and ignorant lol.. dude you have great logic, reasoning and manners.. you acted the bigger man.. unlucky on the loss and screw the asshole.

That guy just won't stop.. the line in yellow is something i've added now

[27/10/2011 15:04:52] US Landlines: oh.... LMAO... "that i'm basically an asshole"
[27/10/2011 1506] US Landlines: i have so many nic? LOL
[27/10/2011 1520] US Landlines: your a drama queen
[27/10/2011 1538 | 1542 ] US Landlines: but thanks for posting the log...
[27/10/2011 15:41:07] US Landlines: So you know...

You have been banned for the following reason:
See what I mean.

Date the ban will be lifted: 11-23-2011, 02:00 PM
[27/10/2011 15:46:12] US Landlines: i will create a new BHW user shorty and let every one know that your full of BS with that post... as i will break it all down with my comments so every one will understand what i mean by your false claims...
[27/10/2011 15:53:56] US Landlines: i dont have any other nic as you claim, but i do have over 10 other website... but no matter what am still sending you those numbers, becuase am a better man than you will ever be...
[27/10/2011 16:00:38] US Landlines: as for your $350 contribution remark, i spend 10X more than that contribition at a strip club in a night having a good time...
[27/10/2011 16:03:08 | 16:03:57 ] US Landlines: "made threats that he'll send me useless numbers if i won't take down my post" LMAO where did i say that, your so FULL of SHIT... thanks for posting that log.... || last chat he told me " maybe i will forget to forward them who knows...." ||
[27/10/2011 1628 | 1656 ] US Landlines: am going to have fun taking everyone of your BS statement and showing every one what a lier you are...

From broken English he does not look like fortunate.

Must be some backstage worker.

FYI. I also have a small dispute with fortunate but i am ignoring this because amount is very small. Also i did not place any order from past month.

I hope all is going well.

Who is alternate provider then?

fuck this fortunate moron. he is not going to be so fortunate when the laws of the cosmos come back and bite him in the ass for scamming people. what goes around comes around my friends. he will get his. but, in the mean time, you guys should all get your money back. get your credit card company or bank involved and the game will simply be over, you will see how quickly you get a refund once a large gang like a bank gets involved, they dont mess around with shit like this. take action guys and get your money back. forget this idiot, dont let him scam you.

i can prove to you that there is still a provider left...
Skype me:
usnumbers
will give new customers sample # to see that mine still work

Originally Posted by trolleyrider

Who is alternate provider then?

Right now there is no legit forwarded numbers supplier. They all got numbers the same way. Don't be fooled like me and get ripped off by guys throwing up quick websites to take advantage of people scrambling to make PVA's.

Hey Guys,

Been buying #s for months and got to say Fortunate is the best and only game in town. I can't build my business on some fly by night operation that sends out email blasts every 2 seconds changing pricing or terms or out of biz. I bought some #s from "other guy", whos website looks oddly identical to fortunate's site, and two days later they we disabled and of course NO REFUND GIVEN.

To the "guy" who started this thread - If you would have treated fortunate like a human being you would have got everything you wanted, and on time.

Your sense of entitlement is sickening....

Bet your out of posting in a month....

Having done business with Fortunate for quite awhile now, I think it's laughable that OP creates a thread to alert everyone to 'be careful' when dealing with Fortunate when all he had to do was contact Fortunate directly and I'm sure any issue would have been resolved quickly.

I almost didn't bother posting a reply to this retarded thread, but it annoys me to see the idiots that create threads like this trashing someone that obviously runs a legitimate business - and takes good care of their customers.

Ask anyone who does business with Fortunate and they'll tell you exactly the same thing - he takes good care of his customers.

I'm not sure what it is with the people who sell numbers around here, but it seems like their entire marketing plan is to trash their competitors instead of just focusing on running a good business themselves. Seems pathetic.

This whole thread reeks of bullshit, as in made-for-UltimateSEO's-website... I have bought numbers from Fortunate / USLandlines for months and sure, he gets backed up sometimes but always delivers as promised. And when the rules changed recently and a lot of numbers were not allowed, Fortunate replace 2500 number free of charge, when UltimateSEO said he will not replace any. You pick.

Anyone complaining about Fortunate obviously has no idea what is going on...

There have been some fairly significant changes to the CL number game, which has left everyone scrambling. It is during times like these where you get to see people's true colors. We have dealt with fortunate for sometime, and he has ALWAYS been honest and fair with us - and has replaced numbers based on his stated policies, even during this whole mess with the new CL filter.

Like some of the smarter posters on this thread have said, Fortunate runs a legitimate business, while his main competitor runs a fly-by-night operation and constantly changes his story.

Have some of Fortuante's numbers been blocked by CL? Of course. But this is happening across the board, and from speaking to him extensively I am 100% confident that he does everything in his power to avoid this. Anyone saying that he scammed them seems incapable of actually carrying out a professional relationship. The OP is a perfect example. Instead of dealing with the situation reasonably, he choose to lash out publicly on a forum, sounding like a child that was having a tantrum.

At the end of the day, as long as we continue buying numbers we will continue to use Fortunate. Why? Because he is the only seller out there who is both honest and properly equipped to deal with the ever-changing CL landscape.

Stay away from uslandlines.com!

This Fortuante , such a stupid person.

Here's some other crap he sent me on skype

[27/10/2011 15:46:12] US Landlines: i will create a new BHW user shorty and let every one know that your full of BS with that post... as i will break it all down with my comments so every one will understand what i mean by your false claims...

[28/10/2011 0600 | 0617 נערך] US Landlines:

I have penty of good clients without this drama shit, unlike others I just cant deal with all BHW Drama QUEENS with bull shit post since they have no other life than to run and post shit on BHW…

Now go ahead, post this also and save me the time of posting it, please let BLEEMZ know he can prem band that nic since he is a Schmuck also who likes to abuse his BHW mod power with BULLSHIT Bans…

I would suggest the admins to check cetolareo, PhilthyMcspew, rkcj01 ips, they're either Fortuante nicknames (like he said he would) or just stupid people that can't read.

And if someone is wondering, i didn't got my phone #s or my money back, also i was blocked from uslandlines.com, stay away from uslandlines.com, he will steal your money , won't reply to your emails and when he finally does he'll use a 6 year old English that no one can understands.

Stay away from uslandlines.com

EDIT:

Originally Posted by cetolareo

Hey Guys,

Been buying #s for months and got to say Fortunate is the best and only game in town. I can't build my business on some fly by night operation that sends out email blasts every 2 seconds changing pricing or terms or out of biz. I bought some #s from "other guy", whos website looks oddly identical to fortunate's site, and two days later they we disabled and of course NO REFUND GIVEN.

To the "guy" who started this thread - If you would have treated fortunate like a human being you would have got everything you wanted, and on time.

Your sense of entitlement is sickening....

Bet your out of posting in a month....

cetolareo , the user that wrote some bullshit on this thread, check his history posts - A few posts about what a Great person Fortuante is and a few posts about what a bad person UltimateSEO is.
obviously a fake username. Maybe i'll check the rest of those usernames later.

This thread has been hillarious to watch. Fortunate is great, am I now another userid made by fortunate to ? Are all the ones like bhbeer30 who regularly post supporting ultimateseo all just IDs made up by ultimateseo? For that matter are you really ultimateseo sandilaffer, seeing as your thread is now being used on Ryan's website?

I don't post on here much, but I do watch what goes on here, sometimes there are some interesting discussions and sometimes there are some really hillarious ones.

Beside the fact that UltimateSEO use to provide # i have no idea who he is.
The fact that watching someone getting scammed for $350 is hillarious to you... that's another story.
and to sum it all up: Stay away from uslandlines.com

First I don't buy that you have been scammed just because you say so, especially when I know many people who would swear by him, but that's besides the point. What is truely hilarious about this thread is your level of paranoia. You see a few people come on to support the person your accusing and intern accuse them of being either stupid or fake IDs for him. A quick glance at the IDs you accused and you would see that not one is a remotely new ID.

Do you by any chance wear a tin foil hat to keep the aliens from reading your mind? I hope this thread continues, I need something to rofl at when I get bored.

BTW, I wasn't seriously accusing you of being UltimateSEO, but I have about as much of a basis to accuse you as you do to accuse anyone else of being alternate ID's for fortunate.

To be honest i don't really care what you buy. If asked by admins I'll provide all the evidence of payments i have.
The user cetolareo got 13 posts and most of them got something to do with Fortuante. Yea, i wear a tin foil hat. I can see the connection.

Originally Posted by bhbeer30

Why anyone would deal with such an ignorant prick is beyond me. I mean it's been shown time and time again how he treats customers that refuse to kiss his ass yet no one wants to believe it until it happens to them.

People like him are the reason you should never pay for things online with non reversible payment methods. As once they have your money and know you can't get it back other than repeat business what incentive do they have to do their job and keep you happy?

I always paid that asshole with reversible payment methods. The last time was the only time i used western union, i guess that prick couldn't help him self. a thief stays a thief.

there are still some sellers left

Originally Posted by bhbeer30

Just to make it clear to me SEO is just the lesser of 2 evils. I don't deal with either one due to the fact they don't take any reasonable payment methods. But atleast SEO did know how to treat customers better when I dealt with him last.

Fortunate clearly doesn't give a fuck about keeping customers happy he just wants the money and you'll get your numbers when he feels like it and be thankful he even deals with you at all.

And you obviously haven't dealt with Fortunate if you think that. On the contrary, he has gone out of his way on several occasions to fix problems for us - it is one of the reasons that we continue to do business with him. I would be EXTREMELY surprised if he scammed anyone, one of the few sellers in this business that I can honestly say that about. Obviously he makes mistakes at times - just like anyone else who has a high volume business - but he always fixes them.

As always in these situations, it is only the people that get bent out of shape and act like babies that seem to have a problem with him. Try being reasonable and professional with him if you have had any issues and you will get the same respect in return.

Has anyone ordered numbers recently from uslandlines? (Like in the last 48 hours)

^ You need to be really stupid doing so after reading this thread

I bought 250 from fourtune and went only 100 numbers.

SCAMER FOURTUNE

Originally Posted by gladepffs

I bought 250 from fourtune and went only 100 numbers.

SCAMER FOURTUNE

New account created TODAY and this is your only post, so whats your real name? Ryan aka UltimateSEO aka RollingDeep aka usacellnumbers is that you? Come on guys when your going to make up an account to lie about someone you could atleast not be so obvious about it.

this thread is now a big fight club stop teasing each other guys

Originally Posted by sandilaffer

I made a $1000 order (285 numbers) on the 6.10.2011 of landlines.
Fortuante sent me 185 numbers and left the order open.
Until this day i didn't got the other 100 numbers ($350 worth)
I've tried Skype, his ticket system and his phone number.
He didn't replied to any of them. Also i saw on his main page that suddenly he lowered the prices what looks suspicious to me

I bought a lot of numbers from him in the last year , big order every time, and i hate that it came to this but that guy is under a rock for the last 18 days.

Maybe he's just sick or dead or something.

Originally Posted by starcity83

Maybe he's just sick or dead or something.

Read everything i wrote, after this post + 21 days he told me what happened.
he "FORGOT"

perfectpoint ok if I'm lien... buy from fourtune

Has anyone gotten their orders from SEO? I went ahead and purchased again, with these numbers that are more expensive and all the rage (according their site). It's been over a week, saw their e-mail about complications, saying orders would start being filled sat/mon. Still no update, just wondering if anyone at all has gotten their numbers?

Originally Posted by sandilaffer

Read everything i wrote, after this post + 21 days he told me what happened.
he "FORGOT"

Is everything OK right now with you and US Landlines? My client is asking me about the order status with us landlines, which he paid for PVAs - which was not delivered to him for 15+ days.

I referred many clients to him in the past as a favor to him.

I understand CL is changing the rules.

The real question is: Is there an approved PVA supplier here on BHW?

After my post here, we spoke on Skype this morning regarding my client's situation with US Landlines. Everything is taken care of.

I understand the situation clearly regarding the phone numbers/CL chaos.

To anyone who did not get the orders, or missed orders - please try to work with Fortunate on any issues. You will need to pay much more for the phone numbers services - as there are not enough providers around.

Hope it helps.

Originally Posted by portalweb

Is everything OK right now with you and US Landlines? My client is asking me about the order status with us landlines, which he paid for PVAs - which was not delivered to him for 15+ days.

I referred many clients to him in the past as a favor to him.

I understand CL is changing the rules.

The real question is: Is there an approved PVA supplier here on BHW?

I really would be grateful if someone would answer this question.

Originally Posted by BHGenie

There are currently no BST threads for number sellers here anymore, both sellers were banned.

Yes, there is.

The numbers game is up how un-fortunate

LOL at this thread!!!! I was bitching about him being a scamming whore like a year ago and now alla sudden, haahhahahaha. Yeah he's a scammer, stay away

They think they are getting away with something. I have their names and address.

I have bought numbers from fortunate a few different times. He has always been very courteous to me and went out of his way to answer any question I had. I only post here on occasion, but can assure you I am not shill for him, just a happy customer. My 2 cents.

Then wheres his service.

^^^^ dopey, hes been saying that for almost 2 months now. His service is done, and hes a POS when it comes to dealing with customers.

Fortunate has been definitely been hard to reach for awhile, but it is not a reflection on his service as a number provider. He has had some personal issues, which I won't be discussing here, but it has nothing to do with his business whatsoever.

He will be back as soon as he is able - and as hotterthanjuly mentioned, he definitely has some good things in the works.

Is it ok to start posting popcorn gifs yet... or is it too soon...

I'm typically a fortunate/uslandlines supporter, but has anyone heard from him in the last couple weeks???

So who is new forwarded numbers provider?