OBJECTIVE: Ban Revenge101 and make BHW a little safer.

So here's the story:
Revenge101

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...-5-people.html

It all started with this ^

Here is the EXACT quote:
"If you have or can create an adcenter account that I can use I can pay you back the days charges plus 20% every night via paypal. Probly start at 50 a day, then move up to 200 a day. It's not much but it's free and easy money. Need more accounts to scale the campaign. If your interested pm your skype and we'll talk. Thanks (slight chance of account getting banned, if you don't care u could make an easy $300 within the next week)
Last edited by revenge101; 07-19-2011 at 05:20 PM."

Please not the LAST EDITED: He updated the thread 7-19-2011 to say "slick chance of account getting banned"

He NEVER said this to ANY USER he worked with.
I've had multiple people contact me on AIM etc now saying that their accounts were also banned after working for just DAYS with Revenge.

My complaint is not that he doesn't pay out (Because he did), it's that he NEVER ONCE said ANYTHING about the account possibly getting banned.

In FACT, he says this in chat log with me:
healeyv3 (621 PM): How much do you spend per day, and what do you advertise?
avatar760@gmail.com (631 PM): bout 100-200
avatar760@gmail.com (638 PM): white hat cpa
healeyv3 (649 PM): If it's white hat, why do you need other people accts and not just use 1 ?
avatar760@gmail.com (655 PM): more impressions
avatar760@gmail.com (632 PM): scaling

He calls it WHITE HAT CPA.

THEN he goes on to tell me he doesn't even use PROXIES when logging into accounts!!!!!!!!!!!

healeyv3 (704 PM): Haven't heard back from you mate....
Revenge (728 PM): hey
Revenge (737 PM): was out for the weekend
Revenge (750 PM): shoot man, i cant seem to log into your account
healeyv3 (757 PM): Yes, it's been banned....
healeyv3 (702 PM): But why?
Revenge (703 PM): damn it
healeyv3 (706 PM): I thought your thing was Whitehat?
Revenge (709 PM): i dont knowi
Revenge (710 PM): it is
healeyv3 (721 PM): Someone else contacted me saying their acct was banned too.
Revenge (741 PM): theyve been blocking some accounts recently
healeyv3 (747 PM): I never got any banned email etc, just tried to login one day and it wouldnt let me.
Revenge (755 PM): maybe they tracked it all from the same ip
healeyv3 (7:37:10 PM): You haven't been using proxies?!
Revenge (7:37:17 PM): no
Revenge (7:37:23 PM): never really needed to in th epast


Conclusion:

MULTIPLE BHW MEMBERS have had accounts banned because of this dude.
Make BHW a little safer and do NOT work with him.

If the mods will allow it, I took screenshots of his Ad Copy and i'll post it here if they think it'll help.

Revenge101 has been notified of this thread. Expect a response shortly. In the meantime all 9 of the JV threads that pertain to this have been locked.

He didnt pay me the $40 he owed me until about 10 minutes ago. Keep in mind its been over a month now since he owed it to me and stopped talking to me. I told him I would continue to make it known that he didnt pay me the amount of money he used on my account , until he paid me. Either way, finally after all of this, I have been paid what he owed me.


His message to me was titled. "there is something wrong with you" and then he said in the message. whats your paypal?

No, theres nothing wrong with me. nothing wrong with the fact that I wanted the $40 owed to me for over a month.

I had 3 accounts banned through revenge. He did pay without fail. Made about 350.

I also have a screenshot of his exact campaign.

He was very iffy with payment so I stopped working with him early on, I haven't checked account but I assume it is ok.

Originally Posted by sayanora

He was very iffy with payment so I stopped working with him early on, I haven't checked account but I assume it is ok.

I'd check your account.

Ok - I just noticed in the OP that there was no issue of non-payment, it was just the account getting banned. Not exactly straight forward dealings on his part of he didnt tell you this up front but entirely different than not getting paid or something of that nature.

All 9 threads are being deleted - and future JV proposals from him will have to include a warning about the possibility of losing your account.

Still waiting on your response revenge101.

Hey,
I got my account banned too but no loss of money- Microsoft recredited my money
Ill try and see if i can grab the screenshots from skype- from home, but i am afraid I dont have it on saving history mode.

also noticed he keeps recreating the thread s with the same content over and over again after a time gap lol.

Originally Posted by scottx1995

also noticed he keeps recreating the thread s with the same content over and over again after a time gap lol.

Isn't there a rule against spam on BHW?

Shame yet another VIP member is messing with the BHW posse, but at least it seems you have all got some kind of payment although accounts have been banned.

It seems Revenge101 has used some dark methods with other peoples accounts to make profits, knowing that when an account becomes banned he can just move on to another account with no repercussions for himself (except being shit listed)

Damn, what a shame to get those accounts banned just for not using another IP

Originally Posted by JackSparrow

Shame yet another VIP member is messing with the BHW posse, but at least it seems you have all got some kind of payment although accounts have been banned.

It seems Revenge101 has used some dark methods with other peoples accounts to make profits, knowing that when an account becomes banned he can just move on to another account with no repercussions for himself (except being shit listed)

I agree 100%. He's PAYING, that's not the issue.
The issue is he is KNOWINGLY fucking over BHW members, and acting like he doesn't know what he's doing.

Healey.your wrong on that too..that was the issue AS WELL. it happened with me and another guy as well..possibly more.. he didnt pay. its only because of all this that he finally paid me today...over a month later.

Originally Posted by groomsxxx

Healey.your wrong on that too..that was the issue AS WELL. it happened with me and another guy as well..possibly more.. he didnt pay. its only because of all this that he finally paid me today...over a month later.

That's a real sly tactic to avoid being banned on BHW. Now just a case of BHW members being weary when dealing with this particular member!

im the worse hes ever dealt with because after a day . I told him to please stop running the campaign on my account. the fact is, it was my account and if asked him to stop. then thats that. thats when he wouldnt pay me the last $40 and started ignoring my messages. I had my reasons for it and im glad I did, or it would have just wound up banned anyway.

This is Blackhatworld. Did no one honestly enter into this venture where they got paid for
basically doing nothing not even consider their account would be at risk?
Hey! We give away free money everyday.

As for the payments revenge101 should've been a little quicker but as they are all paid I cannot
see any reason for asking for him to be banned.
Maybe a little wary of having anything to do with this member, It probably could be a good thing if he were to refine it and his management of it a little more.

Originally Posted by oxonbeef

This is Blackhatworld. Did no one honestly enter into this venture where they got paid for
basically doing nothing not even consider their account would be at risk?
Hey! We give away free money everyday.

As for the payments revenge101 should've been a little quicker but as they are all paid I cannot
see any reason for asking for him to be banned.
Maybe a little wary of having anything to do with this member, It probably could be a good thing if he were to refine it and his management of it a little more.

I agree with all this. Banning is not really appropriate in this case because people have got paid (unless someone can prove otherwise).

Revenge101 should of been more forthcoming with his methods, but that is surely up to the individual to ask such questions before offering over account details.

All fast cash methods carry some type of account banning risks, simply because of the blackhat way traffic is driven.

Originally Posted by oxonbeef

This is Blackhatworld. Did no one honestly enter into this venture where they got paid for
basically doing nothing not even consider their account would be at risk?
Hey! We give away free money everyday.

As for the payments revenge101 should've been a little quicker but as they are all paid I cannot
see any reason for asking for him to be banned.
Maybe a little wary of having anything to do with this member, It probably could be a good thing if he were to refine it and his management of it a little more.

well, when i asked him he said there is no risk and all that he is doing is legit so..

thats a lie,

but anyways im not here to get him banned or anything but just sharing my experience with him.
not honest on what he does ! thats my only point.

Revenge101 you'll get an infraction for not disclosing the risks to your JV partners before hand and creating NINE THREADS to recruit members to your JV's. Weather the risk should have been assumed/implied or not, I read through your JV threads and none disclosed the imminent scenario of getting these accounts banned.

In addition to this, the fact that you slow-payed a partner and failed to make these disclosures ahead of time should be made known to possible future partners, so this thread will stay live but closed. In the future please refrain from creating multiple threads for the same JV.

Case closed.