This is from (Theonevisionmedia on BHW)

Mugshots who owns a "reputation repair company" is an obvious fraud. I worked for him for about a week. He offered me a pay scale of $3500 a month to start. I was doing cold calls. After a few days of cold calls and not making a sale (which I was NOT required to get for my paycheck, I only had to make the calls) he said he was going to move me somewhere I worked better. He also said I would have a contract, which I never got. I asked him for it days in a row with either the responses "It'll come this coming Monday" or "He hasn't had time to do it yet". Always something along those lines. He then informed me that for that month, I was getting paid early (the 27th). I said okay. He then later informed me that I was only getting a partial paycheck. I said okay, money is money and I was fine with that. A little after that, I asked him that instead of my paycheck if I could just get $1500 to start up some ebay resale I was looking at doing. He said sure and the monday would be here on Monday. It's tuesday night and still NO money. He said he'll western union it to me but not paypal, which I can understand except for the fact that I don't yet have my bank account set up. It's not even the fact that I'm not paid yet that's making me post this. If everything connected, which it doesn't, then I would be more than fine waiting even a week to get it because things happen. Why am I skeptical?

Well, *** told me he was a military police officer for 8 years. He told me he was deployed to Afghanistan 8 times. I doubt it.

He also states that he's taking 50 members of BHW to Las Vegas, Nevada from October 15th to October 20th, paying $500 for them to do whatever, room service, and their flights. That alone at the minimum would cost about $100,000. I know multiple people who he has asked investments of, but if he's got all this money to throw around why does he need investors?

In addition to this, he's told me plenty of things about all this staff he works with, his building, how they have office parties, etc. I've never been able to speak with another person who worked for him, never been able to get a picture of the office building. I was skeptical so I asked for pictures of his office party. He said he'd send them to me. About 20 minutes later when I prompted him for them again, no response.

I texted his number that was posted as his on his facebook. This is how the conversation went:

Me: Hey boss.
His number: wrong number
Me: ? This is Tim, lol.
His number: nope this is kay
Me: Oh okay do you have ***s #?
His number: no I know no ***.... or Tim.....
Me: This is ***s # from >Company name here< It's a registered number under his name. Dude if you can't pay me just tell me.

I asked him for his number today to see what he'd say (because I assume it was him acting or SOMETHING) and he told me that "He doesn't give that information out" even when I was supposedly working for him. His reason? "Marketers prank me. I'm a pretty private guy" Post whatever chat logs you want from me ***, I don't care. I just want people to know the truth or I want to get the payment I was told I'd be receiving and worked for.

There's many more points that I can make but they're pretty obvious and it's obvious I'm not the only one skeptical. I approached him for work and got a "job" which I'm pretty sure I was dragged along being told that I "would get paid"

I have no proof that he promised me money or any of the things stated but I do have chat logs saying that he would pay me (we got in to an argument today) and if you ask him yourself you're going to get the same answers.

[7:38:57 PM] Tom Nick: I also do not except to get paid from this. I just expect that people won't make the same mistake. (Theonevisionmedia)


Once again this is not from me DSTANIT this is from THEONEVISIONMEDIA a whole different person...

Sorry to hear that.
Fraud is everywhere these days and we have be careful.

Mr. E will be all over this.

So basically if you are part of the group of fifty that he is taking to Vegas, OP is advising that you don't pack just yet.

Originally Posted by hitman247

So basically if you are part of the group of fifty that he is taking to Vegas, OP is advising that you don't pack just yet.

Or ever, he can't afford my SEO services either.

Ahahaha I can't wait to see the look on all the mugshots nuthuggers

This is just too funny!

OP: I feel sorry for your lost income, I am not laughing at that just all the fools that hugged mugshots nuts.

OOOOMMMMMGGGGG SURPRISE SURPISE


"Marketers prank me. I'm a pretty private guy"

WAAAAT? like hell you are Mugs no private guy spouts shite like you have in that vegas thread TBH!!!


knew this was going to happen the shit has started hitting the shitlist fan now.......


BTW... feel sorry on the OP he was just trying to get some startup $$ to start his ebay venture, mugs pay the man!


kthnxbye

LOoking forward for this thread. LOL

hey mugs, i just heard that whole race car thing you said you sponsored you remember right driver dun dun dun "Jordan Dahl" ARCA..... YOU WAS LIEN






umad?

Its pretty obvious he was blowing steam out his ass when he contradicted himself about every 3 posts.

hes being very silent which isn't like him lol i skyped him but no reply there either

EDIT: I'm gonna hold my opinion till the end.

Surprise bloody surprise.

So you did halfassed job which didn't bring any money because of your fault and still moaning? Wouldn't had done much more different then the guy who scammed u.

Originally Posted by 229tom

So you did halfassed job which didn't bring any money because of your fault and still moaning? Wouldn't had done much more different then the guy who scammed u.

heh? didn't he say he was not expected to bring anything as long as he did the calling whether they converted or not was irrelevant to the terms of their agreement



anyway you suck mugs!

Originally Posted by t0mmy

heh? didn't he say he was not expected to bring anything as long as he did the calling whether they converted or not was irrelevant to the terms of their agreement



anyway you suck mugs!

What sort of person makes that deal!
A not too smart one.

Originally Posted by oxonbeef

What sort of person makes that deal!
A not too smart one.

exactly, stupid on mugs part and stupid on the OP for not realizing, none the less mugs said he would pay him and didnt which isn't right

These well known BHW members are dropping like flies recently, is it the right time of year for VIP culling?

I've just received an email which I suspect is from Mugs.
The question I have is that if I can be emailed why can't he post and respond.
Anyway I will paste the email here with no partiality.

Hey, can you please post that I am currently traveling and I sent over to BigBuddy that I didn't do business with either of these accounts. I did business with Overdestined (These are his two other accounts). He solicited and offered to work for free and I still offered to give him the money for his start up.

I have all the conversations, etc.


Thanks for your help in advance.

Joe

I think he needs to come on the forum and defend himself, not send emails for other members to post and fight his battles.

hes full of shit imo, he prob say he traveling to vegas to secure accommodation or some other bullshit

I am traveling and in Baltimore Maryland but overdestined offered to work without pay to prove himself. He has asked me to send money to several different accounts and names (I have chat logs, etc) I offered to hel him with his start up. The cold calls were cross referenced and they weren't called, etc. Despite everything I still told Tim (overdestined) that I would western union it to his dad since he is under 18.

There are several of us in the business and parent company. The number he called I have no clue on.

I told him we were having issues with paypal and he wanted the money sent to another person other than his dad.

Will post more later. When I land in destination

was likely you were going to say he never called anyone, if you were able to check if he called ppl then why not do the calls yourself, pointless much?

i got a pm from someone who didnt want to be named who outed you about the ARCA bullshit you spun too

At least he has shown he has the bollocks to show up on the forum and defend himself, not like so many others who have just disappeared. I'm reserving judgement till more evidence is revealed.

This shitlist thread is long overdue, I will post some other info in a bit.

Simple if he is really travelling right now check his IP address compared to normal.

Originally Posted by MrE

This shitlist thread is long overdue, I will post some other info in a bit.

Well this is what happens even I had held out hope.

Originally Posted by dizz

Well this is what happens even I had held out hope.

Hey Dizz hope you're on the up and up.

Can't wait for the juicy goss!!

Popcorn Thread

All this suspense will make everyone fat!!

haha this is going viral... best one so far is by Bleemz

I can hear the ghetto "uhuh" just by looking at the pic

I am laughing so hard

Ok second email.
Like I ain't got better things to be doing at 3.25 in the morning.
No partiality.

I know you think this is awesome but I seriously am traveling. Overdestined is the kid's name I worked with. I can't access the Forum from the hotel's computer. Blocks me.

5:12 PM overdestined: Hey you here? I have a question
me: Abt to be leaving for flight, what's up?
5:13 PM overdestined: Not much, and I hope you have a good time by the way (happy birthday) whats the max that can be sent by paypal at a time?
All the limits I looked up varied.
5:14 PM me: Its not my bday
Was a friends
overdestined: o.O Tomorrows not your birthday?
me: I just bought trip
overdestined: I was going by facebook. lol
me: lol
Ohhh my partner Steve's
We all are various
5:15 PM overdestined: Makes sense =P
Do you think that paycheck will be here tonight?
Kind of hoping to get my fiancee a little gift tonight and bring it to her
me: Its not me dealing with finances
5:16 PM overdestined: Ah.
Damnnn my head hurts so bad, lmao.
Still numbed up
5:17 PM me: hope you feel better
overdestined: Thanks man, hope you have a great time
Really appreciate it

7 minutes
5:25 PM me: No worries
5:26 PM overdestined: Hey, whats your #? o.o
me: Why?
overdestined: Just curious
me: I don't give it out due to prank calls
5:28 PM Marketers have pranked me many a times
overdestined: o.O?
me: If we become serious business partners, you'
ll get my number
5:31 PM Pretty private guy
5:34 PM overdestined: Dude, please just admit this is a sham. I've known it was for awhile but I stayed hopeful but it's just obvious. The number posted on your facebook I texted, and got "some lady named kay" but the phone is registered to you. I'm just going to go ahead and give up hope that I'm ever going to get payed, I just don't want to get in to anything. I just don't want to get lied to anymore. But best of luck to you whatever you do. And there's no record of a military police officer by the name of Joe Anderson, I asked my recruiter if he could tell me a little bit because I was curious. I just don't really care anymore. I'm not gonna sob story, or anything like that. I'm done. But can you please just admit it so I can know and move on? Because I'm not the only one who thinks so, I'm not the only one who realizes it, and I'm not the only one who's gonna find out. There's bits and pieces missing. If I was ever going to get payed I would've been contracted, so now I have no way of legally getting my pay. And a corporate company would never let a jarhead or a random person work for their company, especially not manage their sales team. And then there's a guy who mentioned to me and showed me a conversation about asking him for a $5000 investment? Why would you need an investment if you've got so much money? None of it adds up. I'm done being worried about being skeptical I just want the truth
me:
5:35 PM You offered me that you wanted to prove your salt
My name is Joe Anderson
5:36 PM Yet I don't tell ppl my first name
My middle name is Joseph
lol
I agreed
To help you
prove yourself
You went and told ppl that I was scamming you
I STILL
5:37 PM even went against my partner company to help you
RepATX is still budding and protected by the parent company
overdestined: Yeah but what have I got so far Joe? I mean you said I'd be paid monday but I wasn't and you said that you don't handle it, but yet you're the CFO?
I'm confused
None of it really makes sense to me
me: Several ppl told me to not to help you
5:38 PM My name is on the bank docs but seven others handle finances
So they are a bit late
They don't personally want to send 1500 over PP's circuit
5:39 PM What 17 y/o doesn't have an account
That makes no sense
I am in constant contact
This is the internet
Luckily
I have been wise to not give my personal info out
overdestined: I know but constant contact doesn't mean much. Anyone can run things for awhile. It's smart not to give your personal info out but a phone number?
me: Want to call me a liar, fine do so
5:40 PM For what reason?
You no longer work with me and nor my team
Not to be an ass
but you told me to let you work to prove yourself
I have EVERYTHING saved
5:41 PM overdestined: Maybe I'm a skeptic, maybe I'm just overreacting but I know that this isn't the job for me. I don't want to cause you any more trouble but can I please just get paid and walk away?
me: Tim, I am not at home but I'll call in the AM and see what the hold up is
5:42 PM DO NOT put any of our brand on your stuff
If you want to be a skeptic after OFFERING
us your services to prove yourself
and THEN trying to siphon a recruiter for info
That's wrong
5:43 PM overdestined: It's not wrong. I have reason to be skeptical. I'm not the only one who's a little bit wary about this.
me: Oh who else is?
So my stuff is private
I have that right
5:44 PM who else Tim?
All the people you solicited with your story
5:45 PM overdestined: I have a friend of mine who's also on BHW and a jr. vip who's telling me I should shit list you and I don't think that's necessary. He doesn't think it makes any sense, either.
me: Who would that be?
Cause several that I have talked to and showed chat logs think you are just manipulating
overdestined: How am I manipulating
I may not have earned a full paycheck but I earned a paycheck
5:46 PM *********** 5:43 pm
post on BHW right now
hit him where it hurts
me: You even told me that I didnt need to pay you since it was a trial
overdestined: You still promised me a paycheck
me: You asked for start up money
overdestined: You gave me a pay scale
me: No I did not
overdestined: And you said you'd pay me today
Yesterday*
me: I said I'd give you start up money
Sorry, I needed to do traveling
5:47 PM I can't control everything Tim.
overdestined: You said you're paying me on the 27th
You're the CFO of a company. If you had to make a payment you could make it.
me: No you asked for START UP MONEY
So what, I still have people I ANSWER to
overdestined: You also said you'd pay me on the 27th
me: Not after ditching responsibilities
5:48 PM You were gone 2 days
overdestined: If you plan to take 50 members to las vegas in black hat world and possibly pay 300-500k, then how do you expect to promise $1500 to someone?
And not keep it
me: Tim
overdestined: And I was gone 2 days because you told me I was moving somewhere else
me: You will still get the payment
5:49 PM It may be a simple thing of them not wanting to send through PP
When I get back to office, I'll personally send it through Western Union or something so you have it
overdestined: I can't WU.. The only way I can get money right now is paypal. There's no reason why it can't be sent through paypal, it's secure.
5:50 PM me: No its not on our end
Simple fact of the matter of limits
overdestined: The limit for paypal is $2500 to send?
me: PP is not our portal for money processing
maybe for you
5:51 PM No one is here to screw you
overdestined: And I'm not here to screw anyone
me: But considering from the beginning
5:52 PM You WROTE that I was screwing you
overdestined: Because I'm frustrated and confused.
When can I get my money by the latest.
me: Just like you are now
I need to talk to my team and see what's going on
5:53 PM I get home tomorrow so like I stated
I'll happily eat the charges for Western Union or something
overdestined: What time tomorrow
me: Depends on if I get bumped some more
5:54 PM overdestined: I'm not bumping. But I'm frustrated and I just want the money that I earned. I know I didn't do a full months work but I was told I was getting a partial which turned in to getting a startup
me: If I get bumped!!
You are banned at BHW..
Whats up with that?
5:55 PM overdestined: I know I'm banned on BHW. Reason was "Spamming" trying to get a JV so I can earn some honest money.
me: Thats not honest
5:56 PM When I get home.. We will chat
overdestined: I was getting in to autoblogging or facebook viral scripts. I'm looking to get successful
Dude how do I even know you're getting on to a flight
me: lol
I am in Baltimore Maryland
5:58 PM I have no reason to lie
5:59 PM overdestined: No offense but if you wanted to send the money you could. There are ways to get it especially if you say what you have. For now I'm going to post a post on the SL and when I get my money I'll make sure it gets deleted. I'm not the only one who finds this a little odd. But give me some proof and I won't bother.
6:00 PM me: Excuse me???
How are you going to post when you are banned?
overdestined: Friend's going to post for me and I'll post my case on it.
6:01 PM And I have two other accounts.
me: hmm
You know I'll win because 7 others will tell them that you are full of it
and that you solicited them as well
6:02 PM And it was outside of a freelance and everything else
Hope your friends okay with getting his account banned too
I am being very nice, I am traveling
6:03 PM and have been the last two days
overdestined: Where is the proof is my question.
me: What you want as proof?
overdestined: And 7 others can say whatever they want, the proof will be there.
me: No it wont
overdestined: A picture of your staff, a picture of your building, ANYTHING.
me: You can see my building
overdestined: I haven't talked to any other members of your staff
Ever.
6:04 PM me: And guess what, you offered me work
6:05 PM I was being nice by offering the cash for your business
overdestined: Which I haven't received and have been promised.
I wouldn't be so skeptical if things connected
But I don't see anything that connects.
me: YOU WERE NEVER PROMISED!!!
Show me where I stated I would give you
And I promised that?
6:06 PM overdestined: I don't have half the chat logs, as I doubt you have half of them either. You told me what my pay scale is. You told me then it would be adjusted but I still would get paid. I didn't work for a few days because you said you were moving me
I asked if there was work I could do for you while you were figuring it out
Anything.
6:07 PM Half the time, no reply, which I understand. You were busy.
6:08 PM me: I have them all
I am looking at them right now
overdestined: Post me something from the first time I talked to you
6:09 PM me: Ok
6:10 PM 8:21 PM me: starting up a CPA company, reputation repair and product launches
overdestined: Oh that's very cool.
8:22 PM Well I really don't want to waste any of your time, can I explain the position I'm in?
8:23 PM me: feel free
8:24 PM overdestined: I'm a very intelligent and hard working man who is really needing a solid job and would prefer for it to be net-based. I'm engaged and in a year I'm going in to the Marine Corps for Aviation or Electronics as my MOS (more than likely Electronics) scored a 97 on my practice ASVAB) which of course is an easy test. I've got a lot of positive customer service experience and if you happen to have any spot for anything available, I would truly like to be considered. I really don't have a formal resume or anything but if you do ever fill me in to a position I can assure you, you will not find a harder worker.
fromoverdestined Overdestined@gmail.com
toreputationatx@gmail.com
dateFri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:52 PM
subjectChat with overdestined
mailed-bygmail.com
6:11 PM overdestined: I'm more than willing to work for free on a trial basis or anything along those lines. I've been trying to do YouTube channels, twitter feeds, etc for niches and what not to get some money flow but the start up just isn't working.
I'm 17.
overdestined: That's fine. I really don't have much to hide. I looked for a job. You can post whatever you feel necessary in the thread I make. I just want what I should be getting.
me: You OFFERED
6:12 PM YOU OFFERED
overdestined: I offered. You took. I got told I would be paid so I worked. You said I was moving positions. So I still asked if there was anything I can do.
I asked for a contract
Never got a contract.
me: No I offered
the contract
But you were rarely there
overdestined: And I asked multiple times about when I could get the contract.
6:13 PM me: and you ditched out several times
overdestined: Every time I asked it was "next week" or "our lawyer's busy right now"
me: fiancee this or that
overdestined: Half the time I thought you fired me because you're so cryptic about everything
me: No I was trying to give you that trial basis
I was trying to give you a chance
6:14 PM Listen Tim, I'm more than happy to give you the 1500
I unfortunately am not even near my bank to pull the cash
for your start up
6:15 PM I have no ill will towards you and want you to have success
6:16 PM Whether you believe me abt work or not
overdestined: When do you land next?
me: I know whats true
6:17 PM I get in at 11:05
overdestined: AM?
me: PM tonight
6:18 PM Then I am flying out again tomorrow
overdestined: Can you have my money paypal'd to me by tonight. Please.
me: No
I cannot
I'll western union you or your dad
I am talking to my colleagues right now and they are back to the same thing
6:19 PM but because I believe in you and want you to see some success
I'll pull this personally from my account
overdestined: When can it be Western Union'd
6:20 PM me: probably in the mid afternoon
6:22 PM Like I stated
I am glad you don't know our parent company
No one wants to screw you or vice versa
6:26 PM overdestined: Can you Western Union it before you leave for your flight tomorrow
6:27 PM me: Possibly
Nothing against you but you threatening me and I have several asking me why I am still helping you makes me weary
6:28 PM Yet I want to help you
overdestined: I think we both want this to be over with. I have nothing against you either but I've been taken advantage of many times before so I'm very skeptical.
6:29 PM me: How is that possible?
You offering
That makes no sense
overdestined: If someone comes up and offers you something it doesn't mean you can't take advantage of them.
It's just more odd if it happens.
6:30 PM me: I wanted you to work a full and long term job with us Tim
I had convinced everyone to let you 6 month deal with us
As the social media and your paintball idea
6:31 PM overdestined: I wanted to as well but I don't think I'm quite ready for this.
me: Obviously
overdestined: The Western Union is: Daniel Stanitski , Bank Name: WSFS Bank Account
6:32 PM Routing and checking account # coming in a minute
That's a friend of mine who's just going to paypal me the money.
me: Email is nice
See that sounds strange
6:33 PM Come on now
Just email me
overdestined: The money is getting sent by my request to the bank account I request. I don't see how that sounds weird
He needs to know when you'
You're sending it, so he can tell his bank
me: Um
lol
Look at how it sounds
and then come back to me
overdestined: I just did. Nothing is wrong about it
But I need to know when you're wiring this
6:34 PM me: YES IT IS
just like you fucking think I am a sham
you sound like a sham just as much..
overdestined: [643 PM] dan stanitski: i have to run to my check book in my car.
[614 PM] Tom Nick: Okay, thank you man.
[640 PM] dan stanitski: yeah no problem, when is he going to wire it, i have to call my bank and let them know
[613 PM] dan stanitski: and when you have a chance go onto your paypal and make a donate button
[625 PM] dan stanitski: and ill use that to "donate" it to you
me: Wow
Money laundering at its best...
6:35 PM overdestined: Laundering?
lol
me: Yah thats what we are doing
and asking me to do
overdestined: I'm getting it sent to him and then sent to me through a service more preferable.
me: !!!!
Tim, your dad can pick it up just fine
6:36 PM You can too with ID
since you now have a drivers license
overdestined: I don't have a bank account and I'm not asking my dad to get my paycheck WU'd. This works perfectly fine.
me: No not to me
Aorry
I am not going to be liable
If he doesnt send it to you
overdestined: You're not liable. Once the money goes out you're not in charge of it anymore
6:37 PM I'll even contract it
I don't care.
I just want my money sent.
me: Nope
I just contacted BigBuddy
He'll have a remedy for me
overdestined: Okay. Posting on the SL, sorry man. :/ have a good time wherever.
me: You do
BigBuddy has already been notified
6:38 PM And see look at this
overdestined: Okay.
me: I was STILL willing to help you
overdestined: I don't want to get anything. You can post on BHW because I'm not doing any more private chat.
me: I dont want to send to someone who hasn't done business with me
overdestined: It doesn't matter. I'm willing to contract. This is a friend of mine.
me: Sorry
overdestined: You could easily paypal it to me.
Or some other way
But you won't.
me: No I cant
overdestined: Save it.
me: We hbeen through this
Want to know why?
6:39 PM I already logged in
and it limited me because I was in a different location

These Popcorn .gifs are better then the thread.

@ the Op, Why do you have multiple BHW accounts?
It's against the rules.

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