Well, I think I've waited long enough...

There is a member here that advertised that he needs help and I responded.
He had some transaction interface to supposedly check. He put $60 into my PayPal and I was supposed to use Interac payment - it didn't work out because my bank doesn't have it, so I've refunded the money.

For whatever reason - PP started pulling money from my bank account instead of using the balance and that created a delay. The guy claimed he had some urgent payment and asked me if I could put the $60 into the PP account and he would send it to me when the payment clears. I agreed - big mistake!

We've had an exchange going over Skype and he claimed he was not home, later that CPA owes him money and other lame excuses. This is the same guy who posted JV and a job offer paying $1,000 a week! He doesn't have $60 and wants to run JV?

Anyway - I've sent the transcryption of the Skype exchange to one of the mods. I don't expect to get the money back, but I want to prevent guy like that from scamming others.

I didn't get clear instructions on how to proceed - I'd like his ID on the shit list, but would like to make sure I don't cross the line.

I hope he reads this - I know 2 of his websites!

So sad to hear that.We work hard for the money we keep but this guys just easily steal our money it really hurts.There is nothing we can do with this bad guys.Hope and pray they will be punished soon.

I'd like to hear from a mods if I should post his details here as it seems like he tried that scam before.

OK, just checked Skype and PayPal - no sign of him, so here's the info:

BHT ID - Bogoons

The thread was about him looking for Canadians doing $1k/week work for him and I recommended him a friend of mine and got entangled in this mess. Here's the latest exchange from Skype:

[7/14/2011 11:38:49 AM] Anthony: wow
[7/14/2011 11:38:53 AM] Anthony: sorry I just saw your messages
[7/14/2011 11:39:11 AM] Anthony: I'll send the payment by end of today, sorry!
[7/14/2011 11:39:17 AM] xxxxxxxx: ok
[7/14/2011 11:39:27 AM] Anthony: did you make any threads? shit man I wasn't online my bad
[7/14/2011 11:39:49 AM] xxxxxxx: so far I kept it for the mods
[7/14/2011 11:40:11 AM] Anthony: yea ok, damn I've been caught up in a lot of things, tonight 100% I'll notify you when
[7/14/2011 11:40:25 AM] xxxxxx: ok, we'll see
[7/14/2011 2:16:34 PM] Anthony: Hey, xxxxx can I pay you tomorrow via EMT? would that be fine with you?
[7/14/2011 242 PM] Anthony: O damn, just saw the PP dispute , posted: Will be issuing a refund as soon as possible. Sorry for the problems. - just so you know I'm not trying to fight the dispute or anything like that, money will be in your account by tomorrow, waiting on my cpanetwork

That was 2 days ago...

For a fellow who supposedly makes hundreds of thousands of Dollars - this is a pretty shitty way of doing business. Sounds to me like he is a wannabe marketer that has no pot to piss in.

If the refund isn't there in 24 hours he won't be around here anymore, and I could give two shits what you do with his personal information.

No more scumbags will be tolerated and no more fucks will be given when it comes to punishment.

Thank you, appreciate that!

Will post if he refunds the money (although I doubt it).

I've told him that I reported him to the mods and I told I'd wait 2 days for the payment, so I'm up front and don't do anything behind his back (at least now). I agree that he should at least respond or acknowledge it.

What burns me the most is that I went out of my way and tried to help him.

Originally Posted by herterver

there is always two sides of a story dowser maybe right but other party must be heard before making a decision ( just a suggestion )

Well, it's been 36 hours and no sign of a refund, so he proved to be a scammer after all. Time to pay the piper...

Originally Posted by BleemZ

If the refund isn't there in 24 hours he won't be around here anymore, and I could give two shits what you do with his personal information.

No more scumbags will be tolerated and no more fucks will be given when it comes to punishment.

These guys are always easy to spot, it's simple math, if they make so much money, then why in the fuck do they need a JV?

Use your noggin, that's why it's there.

Most JV's are posted by people who haven't got a pot to piss in and have no fucking clue how to make money, that's why they want yours.

Even if theyre the nicest of people, with the best of intentions, it doesnt mean they know what theyre doing, they just think they do, and they'd like to do it with your money.

Of course it will fail, and you're out your money, and theyre posting another fucking JV thread looking for someone elses money, and theyre very sorry saying they'll pay you at some point down the road.....yada yada yada

Stay away from JV threads.

For those who know how to make money, make it, then keep it, invest it in your own projects and make more. Stay away from the fools.

JUST got a pm about this thread. I'm waiting for my affiliate company to approve submits for this month. Should be tonight, Will send payment as soon as possible.

You're a scammer, grow up little boy.
You have 76 threads opened. Who the fuck opens 76 threads about making money JVs and don't have $60.

Ref = www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/membership-sites/209365-been-making-900-day-non-blackhat-method-need-blackhat-expert.html

I really need to throw up just observing how stupid and not intelligent you are. These aren't just words spoken, you literally contradict yourself on paper. Lawyers make Millions from people like you.

Originally Posted by Bogoons

JUST got a pm about this thread. I'm waiting for my affiliate company to approve submits for this month. Should be tonight, Will send payment as soon as possible.

I offered to send a EMT back to him but he wants paypal. Therefore, I need paypal money which I will have today.

Originally Posted by Bogoons

I offered to send a EMT back to him but he wants paypal. Therefore, I need paypal money which I will have today.

i think you are trying to get money from peoples , by involving him in jv with you and this is how u trying to make 1k a week epic fail u should be banned
from bhw ur all stupids threads should be deleted or put on lock until it gets resolved u making 1k a week and dont have 60$ to pay for 60$ u need cpa to fund you :P Grow up kid...

Mod Edit: Personal Info Removed, I called out out on another thread, and you got pissed when I posted your personal information (That is accessible to the public)

Stop trying to scam people, before I call Toronto Police on you.

I have all your info btw. And your home address. Im guessing your parents will open the door If I come over.

Mods instead of deleting my scam thread, can you just ban this member, and his other handles. Thanks

Originally Posted by dowser

Thank you, appreciate that!

Will post if he refunds the money (although I doubt it).

He tried the same scam on me, I called him out when I was way smarter then his game.. Mods deleted the thread after a week.

Here is one of his copy and paste canned responses he uses on skype. Hes not smart enough to change it.

"Hey, I've actually been looking for fellow Canadian for a while.

I do SMS, Email and CPA marketing and my network makes around $100k monthly. I have many Canadians in my network and recently found out about e-transfers ( http://www.interac.ca/consumers/prod..._eTransfer.php ) - It would pretty much save my company a couple thousand dollars each week.

However, I've never tested it. So. My offer to you is allow me to send you $50 via Paypal, not via credit card so no chargebacks and only via gift so no disputes. You then send me $40 via EMT so I can do a test run.

If that goes smooth, I dont know if you are looking for a job, but I have a $1k weekly position available to send out invoices and pay accounts (1-2 hours daily) I payout weekly.

Let me know if you are interested."

AGKFAL: ur an idiot, call the Toronto Police you dumb fuck, I'll meet up with you tonight if you want, your thread was deleted because ur a dumb ass and you had no valid point to accuse me.

Unlike dowser does, at this point in time ONLY becuase he is requesting PAYPAL. Which will be solved VERY soon.

Ok the one who claims they have a million dollar online company =)

ok "Elizabeth Lee" I did my own research in your home town of markham about you and some things said about you didn't quite add up either.

Anyways, "Elizabeth Lee" aka agkfal, your thread was deleted before because ur an complete idiot and if the mods were concerned about it, they would have kept it.

I suggest you mind your own business and wait a couple hours so I can send Paypal money to dowser. Why the fuck would I scam him for $60, thats the most retarded thing I ever heard in my life unless I was from India, no offense to Indians.

Dowser will confirm I sent him payment as soon as I do to solve this thread.

In the meantime, theres nothing I can do except wait.

Originally Posted by agkfal

Here is one of his copy and paste canned responses he uses on skype. Hes not smart enough to change it.

"Hey, I've actually been looking for fellow Canadian for a while.

I do SMS, Email and CPA marketing and my network makes around $100k monthly. I have many Canadians in my network and recently found out about e-transfers ( ) - It would pretty much save my company a couple thousand dollars each week.

However, I've never tested it. So. My offer to you is allow me to send you $50 via Paypal, not via credit card so no chargebacks and only via gift so no disputes. You then send me $40 via EMT so I can do a test run.

If that goes smooth, I dont know if you are looking for a job, but I have a $1k weekly position available to send out invoices and pay accounts (1-2 hours daily) I payout weekly.

Let me know if you are interested."

Clearly its a scam.
And the worst part its than he´s using Canadians. My best friend is Canadian, and its a great man, and all his familly too.

Just forget about the money. Ban that user and close all his threads.

And be more carefully. If someone is offering to you a great deal, and he doesnt have a background, be a little more suspicious.

There is a saying in spanish that goes: " Cuando la limosna es muy grande, hasta el santo desconfia" or :
Beware the Greeks when they come bearing gifts

My 2 cents

xeromidas ur a dumb ass too.

Don't forget about the money because he will have in within a couple hours. Thats the worst advice I ever heard, the thread is about his $60 and him wanting it back, why would he forget about the $60? thats the whole issue here you dumb ass.

So Glad I read this, such good late night entertainment much better than TV where the story line is so easy to see through, your the man Bogoons can i get a job with you it is so clear that you are are doing well and everyone else is an asshole your the man Bogoons is the man.

Too bad, unlike you, I use different names for my paypal,

PS, Your facebook page is an interesting read Oscar.

YOU MAY IN THE FUTURE NOT WANT TO ADD YOUR SCAM ACCOUNT NAME IN FACEBOOK TO YOUR REAL LIFE ACCOUNT ROCKET SCIENTIST!

Mod Edit: Personal Info Removed

Originally Posted by agkfal

Too bad, unlike you, I use different names for my paypal,

PS, Your facebook page is an interesting read Oscar.

YOU MAY IN THE FUTURE NOT WANT TO ADD YOUR SCAM ACCOUNT NAME IN FACEBOOK TO YOUR REAL LIFE ACCOUNT ROCKET SCIENTIST!

You are a dumbass, I'm not trying to hide, I did nothing wrong you dumb fuck. Your comment just proves I'm not trying to hide and thats not even more you stupid dumbass, thats the fb account of the paypal account, not me, stupid idiot. You seem more upset than the actual thread starter, take whatever you have in your ass, your of your ass.

Originally Posted by Bogoons

AGKFAL: ur an idiot, call the Toronto Police you dumb fuck, I'll meet up with you tonight if you want, your thread was deleted because ur a dumb ass and you had no valid point to accuse me.

Unlike dowser does, at this point in time ONLY becuase he is requesting PAYPAL. Which will be solved VERY soon.

Woooo scary.

Internet tough guy routine = fail.

yea, I'll meet up with him tonight if he wants, not trying to be tough, trying to show i'm not hiding or scared of his bs. If you read the first thread you'd understand what I'm talking about. Nobodys trying to be tough here, we're seperated by computer monitors, lets be real. He lives in Markham, I live 2 hours or so away from him, thats what I said, lets met up. I'll go to the police station with him lol.

Police threat = fail.

It sucks getting ripped off, but sometimes there's just nothing quite like a good internet flame war.

In all seriousness, I hope it works out for you.

Originally Posted by agkfal

Here is one of his copy and paste canned responses he uses on skype. Hes not smart enough to change it.

"Hey, I've actually been looking for fellow Canadian for a while.

I do SMS, Email and CPA marketing and my network makes around $100k monthly. I have many Canadians in my network and recently found out about e-transfers ( http://www.interac.ca/consumers/prod..._eTransfer.php ) - It would pretty much save my company a couple thousand dollars each week.

However, I've never tested it. So. My offer to you is allow me to send you $50 via Paypal, not via credit card so no chargebacks and only via gift so no disputes. You then send me $40 via EMT so I can do a test run.

If that goes smooth, I dont know if you are looking for a job, but I have a $1k weekly position available to send out invoices and pay accounts (1-2 hours daily) I payout weekly.

Let me know if you are interested."

Really really sounds like a scam... "send some money,,,, then send some money back.."

This sounds like those who will send you check and once you have cashed it you will have to send back the money via western union or something, of course you will have to take your cut. Until your bank inform you that the check is counterfeit and you have to refund them all the money that they give you for the check.

I'm not holding my breath...

I may check with Polish mafia in Toronto

Originally Posted by dowser

I'm not holding my breath...

I may check with Polish mafia in Toronto

You might faint before you get it!

Originally Posted by Bogoons

yea, I'll meet up with him tonight if he wants, not trying to be tough, trying to show i'm not hiding or scared of his bs. If you read the first thread you'd understand what I'm talking about. Nobodys trying to be tough here, we're seperated by computer monitors, lets be real. He lives in Markham, I live 2 hours or so away from him, thats what I said, lets met up. I'll go to the police station with him lol.

Police threat = fail.

for the people who missed the first thread.... I will recap.

I posted the Skype log..

I was polite, I followed his rules, he sent me cash on paypal. I was contemplating If I should complete the Interact transaction he wanted, (for about 1 and a half min) and he started to be a jerk trying to hurry me, asking me why Im taking so long after about 1 min of him waiting. Then before I could even say anything he said don't scam me or im gonna come over there LOL...

So I said I sent the interact transfer (even though I was buying some time since they usually take a good half hour anyways), and asked him some more questions about his business plan, when he became all uptight, and avoiding anything even remotely useful, or why he cant test it himself if HES in Canada too. It was just getting too fishy, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and politely told him, I'm going to refund the paypal "gift" payment he "said" he made even though it wasn't sent as gift, and if he is serious about getting into business, lets meet in person and we can do all the testing he wants. Its smarter and safer for him and me. Within seconds he started throwing "ass" "fuck" "loser" around and went off like a crack whore looking for her next score.

Seriously fuck that. Threaten me and my family, I will sure damn expose you on the net. You had one member here that was defending you but it was your secondary account (After I exposed you yet again logging in from an account from Toronto as it said in your details) you deleted the details and hid.. and everyone was against you.. but cant check now so of COURSE you say that they were all on your side "wink" lol.

PS, Mississauga is not 2 hours away from Toronto, Markham, even Ajax or Oshawa. Hope your money for your University is well spend, you will be there for a few years to come. Learn to be a professional buggy pusher, Loblaws has some spots open with the rest of the Twinkies.. (No offense to the real Twinkies who are doing a great job at Loblaws)

Soo its been a couple hours... refund yet?

My face is all purple
Couldn't hold my breath any longer.

I suggest you mind your own business and wait a couple hours so I can send Paypal money to dowser. Why the fuck would I scam him for $60, thats the most retarded thing I ever heard in my life unless I was from India, no offense to Indians.

What this mean Bogoons? Anyway you have one more day to refund his amount.

Originally Posted by Bogoons

ok "Elizabeth Lee" I did my own research in your home town of markham about you and some things said about you didn't quite add up either.

Anyways, "Elizabeth Lee" aka agkfal, your thread was deleted before because ur an complete idiot and if the mods were concerned about it, they would have kept it.

I suggest you mind your own business and wait a couple hours so I can send Paypal money to dowser. Why the fuck would I scam him for $60, thats the most retarded thing I ever heard in my life unless I was from India, no offense to Indians.

Dowser will confirm I sent him payment as soon as I do to solve this thread.

In the meantime, theres nothing I can do except wait.

Racial Comments => Ban Hammer ..

How is that racist? Majority of scammers online come from India, at least from my experiences. anyways, I'm $10 away from sending him the full refund via paypal.

And I'm not racist, thats a big claim, I don't hate indians, you asshole.

Payment refunded. Just got my aff. manager online finally. Sorry for the wait to gain the paypal funds. Dowser can confirm.

Sorry for the bullshit Dowser, wasn't my intention.

Well, well, yes, it's here, I can't believe it!

Was it worth it? You completely lost your credibility here. Would I do business with you now - highly bloody unlikely! Do I believe you did it because it was right thing to do - eh, I think it was the Paypal dispute, but at least you salvaged a small part of your reputation.

By the way - it was $60, not $75

Well your asking me these questions assuming I tried to take your $60.

Was it worth it? Well I didn't try to scam you, scamming somebody out of $100k isn't worth it, never mind $60.

Would you do business with me now? yea pretty fucking unlikely on your side, which is understandable, highly.

Do I believe you did it because it was right thing to do - eh, I think it was the Paypal dispute, but at least you salvaged a small part of your reputation.

Well, I wasn't going to take $60 from you anyways, the whole time I was going to pay you. I didn't refund it because it was the right thing to do, I refunded it because I was going to send it all along, you just requested paypal, so it took my some time.

As far as you thinking it was the paypal dispute, def. not that man lol, If I wanted to take your money I would have made your dispute into a claim or whatever, waited a month for paypal to review it, and won the case/take the money. That obv. wasn't the case because as soon as you had the dispute there, I wrote that I will be issueing a refund as soon as possible, i didn't try to fight anything. Which would be me scamming you if I did.

anyways, problem solved.

[taken from "She is the Man(2006)] Speaking as a completely objective third party observer with absolutely no personal interest in the matter..

Bogoons, you are my idol from now on. It is like "Departed" full of lies and a bit sex (you are always trying to fck people as far as I see).

All this drama over 60 bucks. lol.

Originally Posted by edgematch

[taken from "She is the Man(2006)] Speaking as a completely objective third party observer with absolutely no personal interest in the matter..

Bogoons, you are my idol from now on. It is like "Departed" full of lies and a bit sex (you are always trying to fck people as far as I see).

I'm your idol from now on? really? that's cool

Originally Posted by kayzne

All this drama over 60 bucks. lol.

yea i know, fucking crazy isn't it.

Originally Posted by Bogoons

yea i know, fucking crazy isn't it.

It is, aslong as u stick to your word.

Thanks for resolving this amicably.

But issuing perm ban to Bogoons for this comment. calling a country name is not tolerated.

Why the fuck would I scam him for $60, thats the most retarded thing I ever heard in my life unless I was from India.

Majority of scammers online come from India, at least from my experiences.

BHW is getting more sc#mbags now days