Hey guys,

I was wondering where do i report a problem with another member? i dont want to name anyone (yet).

The thing is I bought something from another "registered member" here and paid for it then she says.... "I am waiting to see if her if paypal limits my account before I send it"

why should i be waiting to see what happens with her account. and i said as much to her. it isnt my problem.

PLUS I dont know - I just didnt feel right about the whole thing...

1) because the member sent me one set of info on BHW and then another on skype. said it was mistake.
2) because of above reason.

Finally i filled a dispute with paypal after more than 20 minutes of waiting but not seeing anything... now this person will not respond to the paypal dispute or refund the money and says close the dispute and i'll send the stuff over. i said no way, you have seen the money. let me see my goods and i'll cancel the claim.

but she wont agree. just repeats cancel and i'll give it to you.

I just dont feel good about this deal and so i just dont want it any more... i just want the money back and forget it like bad nightmare.

what do i do next?

Thanks for advice in advance.

edit: the thing is i'll get the money back one way or another so why doesnt the member just give it back and try to get back things on track. this is what i told her today morning... i quote from skype
"so you can make this easy ... a chance for us to maybe talk further or you can make it harder"

do remember that after you close the dispute, you will not be able to open another dispute on the same transaction.

shit list.

but try and reason with them first, it does seem that you have been trying to, and the way you say it sounds to me fair enough on your part. If there account is under review and have limitations on it they should if asked send you the money back until its sorted their end

Hey Bookmarc,

I am having the same problem with a person on here and I'm not afraid to say his name... username: surfx

This guy sold me a Ebay account I met him on here, We talked over skype, I sent him $60 for the account, and I have not heard from him afteR that.

I sent e-mail for a week and still NOTHING!

That is the last time I will be buying something from someone on BHW
I am currently in the process of trying to get my money back from paypal but... I'm not really counting on it.

Beware of this SCAMMER! he will take your money

Originally Posted by toyo

do remember that after you close the dispute, you will not be able to open another dispute on the same transaction.

Thats what i told her... and she said you can... i dont think she knows paypal rules about dispute.

I don't think you have anything to report yet until the paypal dispute is settled.

If you get your money back, no harm no foul, if paypal rules in their favor and you get what you bought, no harm no foul but if paypal rules in their favor and you don't get anything then you have something to report.

That being said, the seller should have given you what you paid for right after you paid for it and not doing so is a pretty crappy way of doing business.

Originally Posted by bookmarc

Hey guys,

I was wondering where do i report a problem with another member? i dont want to name anyone (yet).

The thing is I bought something from another "registered member" here and paid for it then she says.... "I am waiting to see if her if paypal limits my account before I send it"

why should i be waiting to see what happens with her account. and i said as much to her. it isnt my problem.

PLUS I dont know - I just didnt feel right about the whole thing...

1) because the member sent me one set of info on BHW and then another on skype. said it was mistake.
2) because of above reason.

Finally i filled a dispute with paypal after more than 20 minutes of waiting but not seeing anything... now this person will not respond to the paypal dispute or refund the money and says close the dispute and i'll send the stuff over. i said no way, you have seen the money. let me see my goods and i'll cancel the claim.

but she wont agree. just repeats cancel and i'll give it to you.

I just dont feel good about this deal and so i just dont want it any more... i just want the money back and forget it like bad nightmare.

what do i do next?

Thanks for advice in advance.

Thats what i'll get my money back one way or another... the member is just making it harder and closing doors for anything in the future also.

i told her maybe if she closes the dispute maybe i will think again... but not after the way she has been acting.

Originally Posted by littleg2008

shit list.

but try and reason with them first, it does seem that you have been trying to, and the way you say it sounds to me fair enough on your part. If there account is under review and have limitations on it they should if asked send you the money back until its sorted their end

i did spent *more* 1 hour on skype... saying you have seen the money now and that i ain't running away.

plus i mentioned

1) also said I am donor/jr-vip here at BHW and i have been around since 2009
2) and this BHW account is worth more than what i paid her. so she know her money is safe.

but all she kept saying was close the dispute and i'll send. and she again repeated the same thing today morning when i contacted her for a refund and that i didnt want to buy her stuff any more.

Originally Posted by candres79

Hey Bookmarc,

I am having the same problem with a person on here and I'm not afraid to say his name... username: surfx

I dont wanna name names... just hope that it gets solved. I will not say if she is good or bad... because i dont know her.
just her way of dealing didnt seem right... first the wrong stats... then mentioning and the limit issue and then not repling to the paypal dispute (and it is now close to 24 hours since i opened the dispute - she is online and even talked to me this morning saying the same thing but will not reply to the dispute)

Originally Posted by candres79

This guy sold me a Ebay account I met him on here, We talked over skype, I sent him $60 for the account, and I have not heard from him afteR that.

I sent e-mail for a week and still NOTHING!

I think thats a valid reason to name the person... maybe open a new tread and get the person added to the BHW shit list.

Originally Posted by candres79

I am currently in the process of trying to get my money back from paypal but... I'm not really counting on it.

oh! you'll get your money back... first file a dispute with paypal and then a just file a "Chargeback" with your CC company.

ChargeBack really hurts the sellers account more than they think or know.

Originally Posted by BassTrackerBoats

I don't think you have anything to report yet until the paypal dispute is settled.

Thats why just asking advice without names. becuase there is nothing to report yet.

Originally Posted by BassTrackerBoats

If you get your money back, no harm no foul, if paypal rules in their favor and you get what you bought, no harm no foul but if paypal rules in their favor and you don't get anything then you have something to report.

That being said, the seller should have given you what you paid for right after you paid for it and not doing so is a pretty crappy way of doing business.

This thing is i dont want her stuff any more... not at this rate and not the way she has been behaving. i told her she is closing the door for any deal with her actions... but she wont listen.. and she wont even reply to the dispute.

I've had transactions done with bookmarc, and he's all business. That person better settle this as soon as possible to avoid further complications.

It's a scam! She is trying to make you close the dispute so that she can run away with your money. Because once you close the dispute, you cannot open another one and she doesn't have to pay you back. You should open a shit list thread asap and let the community know what's going on, so that another member doesn't fall into this trap.

Don´t shitlist until the rules are met. If it does, there´s your place.

1. Shit List Rules
2. Read this before opening Shit List Thread or Get Banned...

I guess i'll wait till Monday before i go to the shit list with the BHW username. the person can send refund by then and then if the member wants she can start all over again selling me her wares... this time in a more professional manner.

i was wondering if I can open a shit list thread with name if the member does not refund by monday?

i guess there is always a first time for everything including getting scammed.

Originally Posted by candres79

Hey Bookmarc,
I am having the same problem with a person on here and I'm not afraid to say his name..
This guy sold me a Ebay account I met him on here, We talked over skype, I sent him $60 for the account, and I have not heard from him afteR that.

Buying and selling Ebay accounts isn't allowed on BHW.

Originally Posted by bookmarc

i was wondering if I can open a shit list thread with name if the member does not refund by monday?

You can open a shitlist thread any time you see fit as long as it is warranted and you follow the guidelines (no personal info etc).

i guess i'll PM her this thread just in case she hasnt noticed and wait till monday and see how it goes.


edit: just sent her this thread.

WTF? Why don't you mention the user's name to the rest of the community so none of us have an issue with this person in the future?

Originally Posted by hitman247

WTF? Why don't you mention the user's name to the rest of the community so none of us have an issue with this person in the future?

you are a senior here so you'll understand better than me... it easy to tarnish someones reputation but hard for a person to build one. i dont have anything personal against the person. just wrong style of doing business specially here on BHW.

the reason i have'nt dropped the name is i hope she will do the right thing. So i i'll wait till monday. the thing is it is not a small amount either. $300

+ the shit list rules says BE SURE. so i hope she understands the on BHW these things are taken seriously.

she will loose the money when i do a creditcard Chargeback irrespective of what paypal dispute decides. and she will be banned from here too.

so she has got to make up her mind and do the right thing.

must admit... the lady in question is tough! her profile shows... "Last Activity: 07-15-2011 10:28 PM"

so i am sure she must have read this thread... because i sent her the thread in PM at 07-15-2011, 06:13 PM

but still not reply... a real cool customer. she obviously doesnt care for her account here. just create another one and she is ready to take someone else for ride.

OK so what info can i add in the shit list thread on monday? assuming she doesnt respond by then?

1) facebook profile? link? name?
2) her different aliases? so far 4 of them.
3) skype?
4) email? paypal?

I also plan to take it to RipOffReport and other similar sites. and buy a couple of fiverrs xrummer / scrapebox blast for her name and alias to ensure it stays on top of search engines. good idea bad idea?

thanks for your inputs.

UPDATE: so the lady in question just paged me on skype...
here is our chat

===============
[7:02] HER: hi
[7:02] me: good evening
[7:03] me: how can i help you today?
[7:03] HER: do i need help then?
[7:03] me: i dont know... doesnt seem like...
[7:04] me: tell me...
[7:04] HER: just want to ask how are you
[7:04] HER: tell me....
[7:04] me: i am good...
[7:10] HER: and quess what
[7:10] HER: paypal acc limited
[7:10] HER: i said to u before
[7:10] HER: and u did funny about it
[7:11] me: well you can still do the right thing ... at least the doors will be open for in the future
[7:12] me: else you not only get the money... but also go the shit list
[7:12] HER: what do i need to do lol i cant even login
[7:12] me: i am sure you have read that thread
[7:12] HER: u cant put me tmee
[7:12] HER: ur the one that scammed me
[7:12] HER: tryd to scammed me
[7:12] HER: for asking first for admin
[7:13] HER: and i cant login into paypl
[7:13] HER: its banned
[7:13] HER:
[7:13] me: bad luck...
[7:13] me: we will see if i can out in tmee or not if i dont get my money by 2mrrow
[7:13] HER: not at all
[7:13] HER: u wont see anything
[7:13] HER: because i dont havem oney in the account
[7:13] HER: imlimited
[7:14] me: along with all your otme details
[7:14] HER: and banned
[7:14] HER: and u tryd to scamm me
[7:14] HER: and all your otme details
[7:14] HER: i have recorderd everything so no problem
[7:14] HER: ur the one that tryd to scamming me
[7:14] me: good... we will then discuss this on BHW
[7:14] me: have a niec one
[7:14] HER: i dont care about bhw
[7:14] HER: lol
[7:15] HER: bhw is your life i think
[7:15] HER: haha
[7:15] HER: i dont even login anymore on it
[7:15] HER: i did sell my account
[7:15] HER: and gave it away
[7:15] HER: its stupid
[7:15] me: good for you
[7:15] HER: bhw kiddy
[7:15] HER: i dont care
[7:15] HER:
[7:15] HER: dam scammer
[7:15] me: take care Monday
[7:15] HER: i will full a scamming report with my friends
[7:15] HER: lol
[7:15] HER: take care monday
[7:15] HER: whats gonna happen
[7:16] HER: are they gonna shoot me
[7:16] HER: hahahahahahahah
[7:16] HER: nerd
[7:16] HER: go fuck off retard that tryd to scamm me



i dont know what to tell her... since i am now BHW kiddy

Originally Posted by bookmarc

you are a senior here so you'll understand better than me... it easy to tarnish someones reputation but hard for a person to build one. i dont have anything personal against the person. just wrong style of doing business specially here on BHW.

the reason i have'nt dropped the name is i hope she will do the right thing. So i i'll wait till monday. the thing is it is not a small amount either. $300

+ the shit list rules says BE SURE. so i hope she understands the on BHW these things are taken seriously.

she will loose the money when i do a creditcard Chargeback irrespective of what paypal dispute decides. and she will be banned from here too.

so she has got to make up her mind and do the right thing.

I think the way you handled this is very professional. Many people would be quick to lash out and try to ruin the other persons rep. You are giving them all the chance in the world to prove themselves and for that I give you +Rep.

Originally Posted by BHMillionaire

Sounds to me you deserve to get scammed.

Why are you posting here asking for our help if you cannot disclose the handle of the bitch? I wouldn't give a shit if you get scammed again nor would I help you.

@ BHMillionaire Thank you... at least i know whom not to ask for help in the future. I guess i deserve a lot... some good. some bad.

Come Monday and a lot more than the handle will be disclosed.

Moved to where this belongs.

Provide all the information you have on this person, including aliases and details. Do not post personal info like real names, account numbers, etc.

right so i update the SHIT LIST with name and everything else. >> http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...ml#post3025528