Like I said above, I have been scammed by 2 members in the space
of a week.

1.) First member gave me friendster accounts which all got deleted 2 weeks after I got them, I never even got to login to 99% of them.. Went to paypal and they said they didn't know enough about "those virtual goods" so we awarded the seller this time round, he got $35.

2.) Second guy sold me 1k contest likes for fb, he got $18 and never mailed me again.

I don't think I can name them on this, but if I can I will gladly. I've even had one rat leave me a bad itrader, even though he screwed me!?!? WTF ??

For any newbies on here, from my own experience of buying bots, accounts, xrumer blasts and so on, over all I've had a bad experience with this forum, be warned and be careful who you do business with.

This forum is fantastic, read everthing you can and apply it, but don't do business with anyone who doesn't @ least have a website or sales thread, and google them to make sure they're known.

The above 2 examples are pocket change in reality, it's not big money but you could be caught out big... BE WARNED

I can barely call the first one a "scam", mass made accounts can just get deleted at some point, it happens, especially after 2 weeks.

Did you buy the service within the BST thread? if yes open a shitlist thread and prove your case. I have never seen a board where the mods are activelly rooting scammers out as good as BHW. If no then youre on your own

Originally Posted by richcamp

Did you buy the service within the BST thread? if yes open a shitlist thread and prove your case. I have never seen a board where the mods are activelly rooting scammers out as good as BHW. If no then youre on your own

No dude they just mailed me, weren't new and I thought they were ok and paypal would at least back me up.

I didn't name anyone because of that, I just don't want anyone else to be caught and thought this was the appropriate part of the forum to post without breaking any rules either, if I'm wrong please delete this thread/move it.

@dutchtrafficservice the accounts don't delete after 2 weeks for no reason, obviously bad proxies or whatever, 1 person supplies me the same accounts and they never got deleted..

Account creation guys usually give 48 hour or so replacement warranty.If youhave not used them for 2 weeks then you can't blame them.it happens all the time.It happened to me when i bought facebook accounts and didnt login for a week and they were gone and the supplier dude told me its not his fault since 48 hours had passed from the time of purchase

The member who gave you negative himself has no negative i-Trader, and in fact has a lot of positive i-Traders with great comments from his clients. In his negative i-trader remark to you, he said this, "Too impatient to deal with!"

Sorry, OP, but I think you can be better off if you're able to give full details about it than just saying you've had bad experience... on the contrary, I think the seller could've had a worse time dealing with you considering that neg. i-trader remark. Of course, no insult is intended towards you when I say it, but some buyers can get very very impatient when they send over the money and then panic needlessly...

Knowing everything about that remark would put more light on your accusation.

Also as DutchTrafficService rightly said, the first one cannot be called a scam IMO.

My advise is make sure the person has a website (check their profile) check other fourms they are one a lot of the time they use the same user name so you can google that

No dude they just mailed me. That should have been your first clue.
Bulk accounts, like others have said, are a risk to begin with. Try to buy from the BST thread, or at least take the time to thoroughly discuss your guarantee options and have a solid method of communication established with those you deal with, referrals and testimonials on the forum if possible.
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Fooled once, shame on you. Fooled twice, shame on me.

Originally Posted by dog-tag

No dude they just mailed me, weren't new and I thought they were ok and paypal would at least back me up.

You bought outside the BST. While they are breaking the rules PM'ing you, you are losing all sympathy when you are aiding their rule breaking business.

By all means, name them and the mods will see what they can do. But the shitlist is for people buying and selling through BHW approved threads.

Originally Posted by KraftyKyle

Fooled once, shame on you. Fooled twice, shame on me.

It was 2 transactions that went bad in one week.... idiot

yup blackhatworld rule one
its against bhw rules to sell products via pm
if the person doesnt have a sales thread or a
buy sell trade thread already.

this rule is clearly posted on bhw
if you then still choose to buy from a pm
from an un-authorized seller, they should be
banned but its your fault for failing to follow
the basic bhw rules - sorry mate

i dont buy the first one, i dont know the 2nd one.

Originally Posted by dog-tag

It was 2 transactions that went bad in one week.... idiot

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Buying in BST
1. scammed once = complain and learn from it
2. scammed twice = You're having a bad time. Make a thread to warn others.

Buying outside BST
1. scammed once = its your fault
2. scammed twice = your stupid

Buying outside BST
1. scammed twice in one week = either you're high or you're incredibly stupid.


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And dont call him names you bloody vaginal belch hes telling the truth!

do 10 more transactions with them and file disputes for all 10 with paypal
sure they get your money but it also jacks up their complaint ratio.
if it gets high enough paypal closes their account.

oh yeah..just spend $500 for nothing and hope the best..what a stpuid advice is this?

Originally Posted by kyhass

do 10 more transactions with them and file disputes for all 10 with paypal
sure they get your money but it also jacks up their complaint ratio.
if it gets high enough paypal closes their account.

Well . . . $18 and $35. That is $53 total.

Considering all things, you paid $53 to learn a very important lesson.

What is the lesson? . . . Don't deal with unauthorized services on BHW.

Cheers! - "Wiz"

Originally Posted by kyhass

do 10 more transactions with them and file disputes for all 10 with paypal
sure they get your money but it also jacks up their complaint ratio.
if it gets high enough paypal closes their account.

Really? You were kidding, right?

Originally Posted by WizGizmo

Well . . . $18 and $35. That is $53 total.

Considering all things, you paid $53 to learn a very important lesson.

What is the lesson? . . . Don't deal with unauthorized services on BHW.

Cheers! - "Wiz"

Yeah, you could've bought yourself Scrapebox for that.

Originally Posted by dog-tag

It was 2 transactions that went bad in one week.... idiot

You never explained about the neg itrader from patmiller, imo he's a respect member with a good service here, his clients being happy. something fishy indeed.

Originally Posted by srb888

The member who gave you negative himself has no negative i-Trader, and in fact has a lot of positive i-Traders with great comments from his clients. In his negative i-trader remark to you, he said this, "Too impatient to deal with!"

Sorry, OP, but I think you can be better off if you're able to give full details about it than just saying you've had bad experience... on the contrary, I think the seller could've had a worse time dealing with you considering that neg. i-trader remark. Of course, no insult is intended towards you when I say it, but some buyers can get very very impatient when they send over the money and then panic needlessly...

Knowing everything about that remark would put more light on your accusation.

Also as DutchTrafficService rightly said, the first one cannot be called a scam IMO.

I totally agree with all the points.

Originally Posted by LukaB

You never explained about the neg itrader from patmiller, imo he's a respect member with a good service here, his clients being happy. something fishy indeed.

I did at the time! I left messages on his thread and wrote exactly what happened in my own itrader review of him, apparently this is viewable to him and the mods.. if I can I'd like to have it changed as I've been made look bad over asking for help with a bot that didn't work.

Some of the above comments were just stupid, for the record I own scrapebox, I already said it was only $53... the money doesn't even bother me, it's the point it happened twice in one week..

And for the couple of idiots who just don't seem to be able to read I'll explain this again -

I made 2/3 deals in the space of a week or 2, over PM... and in the last week, 2 of them went sour... there was no fooling, then fooling again!?!? And it was simply 2 deals at once gone wrong!?!?

And when someone offers you a good service and they've 6 good itrader reviews and 100+ posts for only $18, I'm not exactly taking a HUGE risk.

The purpose of my original post was to inform people this was going on, and I explained how I was scammed out of money....

And for the people who're banging on about "buying outside BST" it's your own fault bla bla I KNOW!! I never named the people, I'm just warning others, I never asked any mods to look into anything did I ????

Before anyone comments back, please at least read my original post first.

I you have a bad experience like that once , its understandable. If it keeps happening, then I would advise you to implament a new strategy.

It makes me wonder what are you doing wrongly.

Review your proccess of "hiring" guys , and see what mistakes are you doing. More then often there is a faulty "system" of hiring.

As someone else wrote, buying bulk accounts are risky business. There is a chance the accounts get banned and that´s just something you have to consider when buying.

The seller provided you with working accounts. I don´t know how long guarantee time he gave you (if any) but after that period of time, you are on your own.

Sorry OP, you learnt the hardway. Also, if you can´t stand the risk of loosing accounts bought in bulk, maybe that kind of business just aren´t for you.

Cheers,

I don't wanna beat a dead horse hear...

Don't buy outside of bst, report anybody trying to sell to you via pm,

anyway, post the member profile url here, atleast we can initiate some action against them for selling thru pms.