I would like to speak to one of the Max bounty wraps or Max bounty himself. You guys have taken shaving to a whole new level with me this time your company has hit a new low. I thought there was something up with the shaving this month I instituted a way to check you and I know that I have a lot more click through's and fills because of a program that my IT guy built just to check CPA companies since there has been so much shaving going on around lately. If you'd like to respond to this allegation please do. I will stop using Max bounty and I warn all others to do the same. This is the second time that you guys have owed me money and not paid me the amount that I earned. I can prove only that I was suspicious and checked you. But this is a warning to all people the use Max bounty I am an experienced person with CPA and this company has now hit the worst days that I've ever seen from any CPA company ever. So Max if you are respond to this ad not please would like to hear your comments I would like you to explain why I am not getting paid for the leads that I sent you.

Jason and Amanda

my sincere concerns, but how much do they owe you? did you call your AM.

a guy I am way past: my a.m. this is the second time they have done this only this time I knew they were doing it so I put checks and balances in place so I want to hear from the man himself why he's ripping us all off. I'm not in a talk to my a.m. again this time I'm bringing it out in public. I am angry with the way they're doing business. They do not want loyal CPA affiliates they want people putting money in their pockets and then taking it out of their affiliates pockets.
Jason and Amanda

at least you got paid...some NW's simply do not pay out....it may be the advertsiers more than them. I like M.B.

Edited

Originally Posted by haridada

did you actually read the first post. OP said he was not paid at all

Haridada: And u should go on reading again what OP said in the first post.

Read it twice this time please.
It says he didn´t get payed for those leads he should get payed for..

Enough said.

Originally Posted by ericsson

Haridada: And u should go on reading again what OP said in the first post.

Read it twice this time please.
It says he didn´t get payed for those leads he should get payed for..

Enough said.

you were right and i was wrong. I accept my fault.

dizzspaceteam, why not crowd source your technique for detecting shaving to some big CPA guys on bhw, and make the information public in real time?

I've been hearing that these networks have been shaving worse and worse lately. They have no watch-dogs in place and someone really needs to kick them in the nuts.

The marketers can make or break a company if there's a little organization.

There are other companies to choose from so they will miss us

yea i noticed the shaving a while back, rightttttttttt around the time they got into some issues with facebook. It was then that i pretty much pulled traffic on them. i had something like 500-800 clicks in a single offer and not 1 convert, YA RIGHT!

Hmm..i wonder what you said about me? Was it nice....?

Edited

Oh i think you said this. LOL....It's awful when you do this in a public forum isn't it? :-)

Originally Posted by haridada View Post
did you actually read the first post. OP said he was not paid at all

Hahaha!!!

"Welcome to our newest member, MaxBountyMike"

So maybe they saw your post, Jason?

Originally Posted by stressfree

Hmm..i wonder what you said about me? Was it nice....?

Oh i think you said this. LOL....It's awful when you do this in a public forum isn't it? :-)

Well, yes i said it. But then ericsson pointed my mistake and i rectified it. I openly made a mistake and when poiinted out, i openly made the rectification.

what there to be awful about it in a public forum?

sorry for you man... this is a disaster...
couple of days back one of my friend suggested me Max Bounty... but i guess... m not gonna use it now...

there's no use of doing such hard work and not getting paid...

thanx to you...

Originally Posted by dizzspaceteam

I would like to speak to one of the Max bounty wraps or Max bounty himself. You guys have taken shaving to a whole new level with me this time your company has hit a new low. I thought there was something up with the shaving this month I instituted a way to check you and I know that I have a lot more click through's and fills because of a program that my IT guy built just to check CPA companies since there has been so much shaving going on around lately. If you'd like to respond to this allegation please do. I will stop using Max bounty and I warn all others to do the same. This is the second time that you guys have owed me money and not paid me the amount that I earned. I can prove only that I was suspicious and checked you. But this is a warning to all people the use Max bounty I am an experienced person with CPA and this company has now hit the worst days that I've ever seen from any CPA company ever. So Max if you are respond to this ad not please would like to hear your comments I would like you to explain why I am not getting paid for the leads that I sent you.

Jason and Amanda

Actually, they call me "Snuggie" here at the office, so I must be the MaxBounty Wrap.

Are you even English? You certainly don't appear to have an even basic grasp of the English language. I normally don't care about that, but your writing style seems to be more translated Chinese than English. Which is kinda funny for a "Jason and Amanda" from Texas.

In any case, I looked into your account. Here are some interesting details for all to read:

- you generated 9 leads on 25 clicks on 4 high-paying leads
- these 9 leads came from 6 distinct IP addresses
- a good portion of these leads came from browsers you were using
- the rest of your traffic was sent to our geo-filtered campaigns
- your "good" 25 clicks came from blatantly obvious fake blogs with below-the-fold banners
- massive chunks of your geo-redirected clicks come from the same blocks of IP addresses

For those unaware, the above details point to one thing. The affiliate was either filling out the leads himself and/or incenting people to fill out the leads and then trying to hide it with cheaply purchased bulk traffic.

"Jason"/"Amanda" you are pure fraud. Let me "wrap" this up by stating that your MaxBounty account has now been terminated.

For the rest of you reading this note carefully that MaxBounty never has, and never will shave leads. We've been in business for 7 years, and we've been recently ranked 5th in the top 20 affiliate networks in the world by Revenue Performance magazine (http://mthink.com/bluebook/top20/cpa). This ranking was based heavily on input from affiliates like you. We would not have succeeded this long or built the good reputation we have by screwing affiliates.

Of course, anyone committing fraud on our network might think differently.

a good portion of these leads came from browsers you were using

This doesn't prove anything. If everybody goes by your logic then each and everybody has to use custom built browsers.

It´s so weird that u guys came into bhw, when u see someone post a thread like this.. Isn´t it. Even "MaxBountyMike" was registering at this forum. I guess he couldn´t post s so he phoned up "MaxSteve" to protect their company with a reply..

It´s so .. yeah ... u can call it whatever!
And this talk that we don´t shave, we don´t scrub bla bla. Yeah u got proof? Show us?

Originally Posted by MaxSteve

- you generated 9 leads on 25 clicks on 4 high-paying leads

Did the advertiser complain about those leads? If not, nice way to stack up some free cash over an affiliates back

mthink.com/bluebook/top20/cpa)Thanks for pointing to epic direct, going with them since they are the best and you are 5th

Are you even English? You certainly don't appear to have an even basic grasp of the English language. I normally don't care about that, but your writing style seems to be more translated Chinese than English. Which is kinda funny for a "Jason and Amanda" from Texas.

Wow thats what you call professional.

Are all the guys at MaxBounty as big an asshole as yourself?

I've never had a problem with Azoogle or EpicDirect so I highly recommend them. MaxBounty banned my account for incenting an incentived campaign, go figure. Kept all my commissions and never would answer 1 email from me ever again. So I'm also on the anti MaxBounty ban wagon. You shouldn't treat your affiliates like that. At least have courtesy even if you're gonna give somebody the axe. Very bad taste in my mouth for MaxBounty. Besides their interface is archaic and most of their offers sucked anyway

Are you even English?

If you're going to call someone out on their grammar, you should at the very least be correct with yours.

More and more companies seem to talk down to their affiliates. Just because you're ranked 5th overall, does not give you the right to be an asshole. Without people like us, your company would not be in business. It seems a lot of networks forget this.

according to the list there are better networks to go with, so its time to frame some max bountry offers

Sounds like it would be quite a disgusting wrap.

Originally Posted by MaxSteve

For the rest of you reading this note carefully that MaxBounty never has, and never will shave leads.

This is exactly where you lost all the credibility of your post, this is not DP where people believe everything.

Networks and advertisers need to shave at least on email/zip submits to an extent (you exactly know the reason and we also know it well), the shaving rate varies by network of course, but there's no exception!

However i know that you and other CPA networks will never acknowledge this publicly!

These people that go after these affiliates crack me the fuck up.

Like the AM will get on here and be like...."your right were sorry...heres your money." LOL


your only option is to switch companies if your not happy with them.

BECAUSE....


If they robbed you.... They won't tell you.

If they didn't rob you... You were trying to rob them.


PEACE OUT BRO>

hey Max I'm using Dragon speak so maybe it doesn't seem like the best of English but I'm a redneck so maybe that's not English to you either. I noticed that you attacked me personally first before getting into the real story. Don't worry about it I'm not pure fraud but I am done with your company and you guys are the ones are frauding us. I love how you went after my grasp of English first and then went after distinct IP's. How many of those distinct IP's are public libraries or something like that? I bet if we checked that's what they are because there was no fraud or any of that geo-targeted stuff. You may have seen none of it converted, because none of it was made to go through and convert, it was put there to check to see if clicks were actually going to you. Remember I did mention it in the first of this thread that I put a check on you. I'm glad you're mad and I'm glad you don't like me because now people know what you are.
Jason and Amanda

If we are fraud, why didn't you just ban us at the beginning? Or was is because you know we aren't being fraudulent... We were making you money, and you were just putting it in your pocket. So why don't you tell us why you didn't just ban us when you "KNEW" we were frauds?

P.S.- how did you know which one is our account, just for our information? I was just curious about that... LOL.
real Americans people who speak English not Chinese

Originally Posted by MaxSteve

Actually, they call me "Snuggie" here at the office, so I must be the MaxBounty Wrap.

Are you even English? You certainly don't appear to have an even basic grasp of the English language. I normally don't care about that, but your writing style seems to be more translated Chinese than English. Which is kinda funny for a "Jason and Amanda" from Texas.

In any case, I looked into your account. Here are some interesting details for all to read:

- you generated 9 leads on 25 clicks on 4 high-paying leads
- these 9 leads came from 6 distinct IP addresses
- a good portion of these leads came from browsers you were using
- the rest of your traffic was sent to our geo-filtered campaigns
- your "good" 25 clicks came from blatantly obvious fake blogs with below-the-fold banners
- massive chunks of your geo-redirected clicks come from the same blocks of IP addresses

For those unaware, the above details point to one thing. The affiliate was either filling out the leads himself and/or incenting people to fill out the leads and then trying to hide it with cheaply purchased bulk traffic.

"Jason"/"Amanda" you are pure fraud. Let me "wrap" this up by stating that your MaxBounty account has now been terminated.

For the rest of you reading this note carefully that MaxBounty never has, and never will shave leads. We've been in business for 7 years, and we've been recently ranked 5th in the top 20 affiliate networks in the world by Revenue Performance magazine (http://mthink.com/bluebook/top20/cpa). This ranking was based heavily on input from affiliates like you. We would not have succeeded this long or built the good reputation we have by screwing affiliates.

Of course, anyone committing fraud on our network might think differently.

Maxbounty paid for my M5.
No complaints from me.

@MaxSteve,

You really f***ed up this time for your company.

As of now I'm done w/ Max Bounty. WE are the reason you're in business and this is how you treat someone? Trying to belittle Jason and Amanda?

I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way.

edit edit

LOL, this is Amanda now... I stopped letting Jason have the microphone, lmao... Anyways, yeah, you are right... They won't pay the money... I just am pissed.... Since its my account anyways, I really couldn't give a rat's ass, but what can I say, I'm what a gold-digging bitch would be if they made money by themselves... Plus, if we were such fraud, then well, why would they wait to ban us until now? But still, that's not the point... Point is, yet again, I'm a mean mean bitch.. Always have been... And I don't like not having money that is owed to me... And plenty of people get shaved... And lose money everyday, that is the way of the game... It just happens that I don't like to lose, and besides that, I'm just warning the noobs and well the rest of the crowd... This was actually our first time at whitehat shit... I mean really..... I'm better at blackhatting than whitehatting, hell, they didn't know the difference.. Anyways about it though.. You can keep the 10 that was yet again, white hat traffic i have no idea where it came from, and just stick it..

Amanda (The meaner person, even if I'm the prettier one )

Originally Posted by KeyzDT

These people that go after these affiliates crack me the fuck up.

Like the AM will get on here and be like...."your right were sorry...heres your money." LOL


your only option is to switch companies if your not happy with them.

BECAUSE....


If they robbed you.... They won't tell you.

If they didn't rob you... You were trying to rob them.


PEACE OUT BRO>

As much I love you dizz you're on the wrong side of the battle here. I knew this was gonna happen down the road. Sorry man, peace.

Originally Posted by MaxSteve

Are you even English? You certainly don't appear to have an even basic grasp of the English language. I normally don't care about that, but your writing style seems to be more translated Chinese than English. Which is kinda funny for a "Jason and Amanda" from Texas.

WOW, talk about unprofessional behavior MaxSteve!

You know that statement alone is not only highly offensive to all Asians but also completely uncalled for.

I don't know if OP is Asian or not and quite frankly, it doesn't matter. His ethnicity has absolutely nothing to do with the complaints he raised against MaxBounty.

Or was it you intention to suggest that all Asian/Chinese people are crooks, or incompetent, or scammers?

In my experience, when someone resorts to name-calling and personal insults instead of sticking to the issue at hand, it means that there is usually at least some truth to the complaints raised against MaxBounty.

I'm part of the MaxBounty network and I have to say that your response to OP is very troubling to me and making me rethink if I want to do business with you guys.

MaxSteve, have you been authorized by MaxBounty as their representative and are those discriminatory ramblings of yours part of MaxBounty's official stance on Asians?

Or maybe you are trying to say that "White People" are beyond reproach and everyone else is suspect?

Honestly, I'm shocked at the method you chose to deal with these allegations. Personal attacks? Absolutely disgusting.

It truly amazes me how people respond during moments of angry. If max steve properly read what dizzspaceteam said he would realize that they were initiating a "Check" of max bounty system based on the clicks. Really max steve its a known fact everyone shave's it makes no sense denying it, Its apart of the game. Honestly if you were a representative of my company you would be fired on the spot for a response like that. It still show's that ignorance is still prominent in today society.

MaxSteve, my advice... next time you write a response to a disgruntled advertiser in a public forum I suggest you get your post edited and proof read. You have horribly failed at defending your company.

I LOLed at the unprofessional response.

Maxsteve I've got no bones with the network and while I don't make enough to buy an M5 I do find your response/retort about his nationality not appropriate whatsoever.

okay guys from Max bounty I and didn't ask you to pay me back but I did ask one question. If I was fraud why was I not banned? I think this is the most important question when you accuse somebody of fraud. You can say anything you like about us that's fine. But if we were fraudulent then the question to bear once again is" why were we not banned"?
Jason and Amanda

MaxSteve, is the owner of Maxbounty Network

I've had some problems losing leads over the last several months with one particular offer, however, I don't believe this is due to Maxbounty doing any shaving. More than likely it was on the part of the merchant.

They've always paid me on time and I have a good relationship with my AM.

Let me clarify that I like working with Maxbounty but that sort of negative commentary is not professional.

Originally Posted by MaxSteve

Are you even English?

Are you retarded?

So where are those MB guys now?
Why not defend themself?

Arrogant?

So where are those MB guys now?
Why not defend themself?

Arrogant?

just a guess, but since they work on eastern standard time and it's after 6pm there, I'd assume they probably went home for the day.........

MaxBouty=FAIL

Customer service is #1 on my list when doing business online!!!!!!!!!!!!

MaxCrap seeing your "professionalism" I think I will MOVE ALL MY TRAFFIC AWAY FROM YOUR NETWORK. I think I will get better results and even if I dont I aint coming back.