Check out the video with what is supposed to be a prove of their
earnings with their system, notice how the mouse jumps every time
he logs into clickbank, it seems to be made up of two videos.

I could not post a link to the video, but I got the link in a mail
from them, so I'm sure you have seen it.

Wow, a money making guru is not honest?????

Can't believe what is happening to the world

Originally Posted by nufaman

Wow, a money making guru is not honest?????

Can't believe what is happening to the world

Haha, I know, but it's that he made it so obvious and easy to see
that it was cut together.

If you gonna fake do it right.

I have been checking this program out and I'm glad I came here to see what you guys are saying .

lol i dont even bother reading any of the "guru's" books or watching there videos...most of them are completely crap and completely a waste of time

get kick his ass ..

"Guru" and "honest" seem to be antonymous with eachother.

Where can we expose this guru liar? I love guru humiliations

Where can we expose this guru liar? I love guru humiliations

The more time you lose watching these things, the less money you will make.
I believe that you have whats need to get you started at this forum so pick what you like and start building^^

I come from forex trading. And i see that there is the same crap about the clickbank products for getting rich, like these fucking robot´s for trading the forex markets.

for this forum.

MacMorris.

A year or two ago I sent him $1 for a bunch of vids. What he didn't say in the sales letter was that he was also signing you up for a forced continuity buried in the tiny print ; $47/mo (What is it with IM and the number 7?).

That's pretty sleazy, even for IM. I guess the $1 price made me paranoid cause I caught it but it was very difficult to figure out how to cancel the subscription.

bakxos is correct. Most IM vids have negative value. They should pay you for wasted time.

the income is from one of his scripts RELAUNCH and not from his so called mass money makers system. They are all the same

Originally Posted by $$Money$$

lol its obvious that he has a white image put over the login screen so you dont see his username and password as he types it.

Not because it's two diff vids or fake.


Although im not saying you should buy his shit (cause id never buy it, just stating the obvious).

It´s fake for me. I get a refund from clickbank and i can always log in the members page.

Marketers like these people who selling the crappy robots for forex trading.

another guru scam

damn, I bought this one a few days ago....and I'm having trouble with conflicting information in the videos and resources + the support there is BULLSHIT!

All right, I'll go for the refund as well..

Well it was or still is available on this forum, their presentation is about the worst I have seen. A good job their security is crap and you can get it free.

Fast talking Americans that's what they are.

Originally Posted by Tempest23

Hi, I just wanted to say that I don't agree with you. The reason why I don't agree with you, is because of one reason and one reason only, that reason happens to be the fact that I actually purchased his program, and What him and Allen talk about on the inside is amazing. OMG they teach you things you would NEVER have thought of. Believe me I tried it and am quiet pleased with copying their method, they go on to give you permission to copy their methods and lets just say I was impressed. Allen was right when he said that there is ONE major flaw in the internet that makes it possible for you to get free unlimited traffic. Though I do recommend that if your going to do this that you have an extra 200 dollars in your account to begin with for all the little extras. You don't necessarily have to have the extras but to see optimized action I highly recommend that you have at least 200 to 300 dollars. I only recently bought their product so I know what I'm talking about when I say that Matt and Allen are very very honest in their teachings. If you really want to get in on affiliate marketing weather your a beginner or not then give them a shot. I guarantee you that they wont disappoint you. I'm certainly not and I've been doing it for the past four days and already I've made back what I spent and then some on what they've been teaching me. But like I've said you may want to make sure you have 200 to 300 dollars minimum for start ups, and no that amount is not for traffic, that amount is just to be able to get that free traffic. I'd rather spend that 200 to 300 dollars a year and have unlimited free traffic for life then pay that each month for advertising. Because as Allen and Matt explain, PPC does NOT work anymore. It works for somethings but not everything so your better off getting into free traffic. They both have a point when they say that email is the one thing in the marketing world that has not changed. Like I've said you really should give it a shot before you say "They aren't honest." Because I can tell you each one of their videos on the inside is up to 2 hours long one is even 4 hours long and there are four of them, they go through it with you step by step, they give you permission to copy everything they do including the niche they picked to show you how to do it. These two guys have multimillion dollar companies that they physically work on top of all this. They even teach you how to outsource all of the work so you don't actually have to do anything. If I had the money I'd be doing that but I'm going to wait until the end of the month to do that. With the flooding and such I'm having a hard time at the moment so can't afford the out sourcing despite it being cheap.

Hey man,
firstly, put some space between sentences, you can do that by hitting the ENTER BUTTON on your keyboard...

secondly, When you put to work what you just purchased, and you fail miserably, you can always get a job as a stand up comedian, that half page endoresment you just did has me in stiches here.. LOL

I can see by your time on BHW and post count and contribuation to the forum you really do know what your talking about Matt, or should we call you Allen, not sure here, as you have to be one or the other as you talk the same CRAP those idiots do as well.....................

BTW, i think your on the wrong forum here pal, DP would be more suited to BS and this kinda crap....

Cheers

yeah tempest23 it´s amazing, that you wrote so many BS ,haha.

The first day´s i sent them email´s that the templates for icontact did not work,
for mac users, all the <form> tags not included. I send them a right one from me over megaupload. A day later, oh what o wonder they uploaded the resource page new and the templates did work. haha.

When i see how he is working with copy and paste at the google keyword tool, downloading as cvs and so and so. They are marketers but not good computer users.



nice smiles on this forum.

My take on all this is that people are getting sucked into buying a program that is VERY poorly presented.

The content may or may not be useful to some people but these fast talking yanks take 2 hours to tell something that should take no longer than 15mins.

The world is bigger than just America.

I've actually taken a look at the product Mass Money Makers, and it's nothing special to people who've been marketing online for years.

It's the same thing as any other product.

Find low competition keywords that are buyer keywords, make a site, rank it well, make tons of money, and rinse and repeat.

YO,

The only thing that pisses me off is that while everyone on here
is openly stating the obvious about these gurus & their crappy products,
the gurus are continuing to make shitloads of money with these crappy
products.

In fact, here's something that will make you sick:
How much $$ do you think these guys made just during the time
this thread was started? At least 6 figures.

So Kids, the moral of the story for us here is:
Stop bitching about the obvious & get busy doing something
with what you've learned here -- Make some MFM (Mother-f'in Money), son!

***End of Rant***

Peace out,

BigDaddy

I payed $630 for mass money makers. The $37 is just to get you to make the initial purchase. (good marketer hey?)

Mass money makers is vague and poorly put together. They do a very poor job of explaining and they leave out key points out. To be honest its very frustrating, and the support is BAD.

All you get are videos, that's it. The videos are NOT good. They actually stuffed them up. Some of the videos are recording a portion of the screen so you cant even see what there doing. Sure you can most probably work it out, but there explanations are not clear, even when watched over and over, and paused and played back. I followed exactly as they said (or quickly mumbled and showed, or stuffed up and corrected), but they leave out some major points which is taking me some time to learn on my own, because I need to wait on support. If your new to making web sites and domains and transffering domains and hosting and SSL's, your going to have to learn all that on your own. Some things like SSL's and this and that, and how to do this and that are not explained (and im not half way through it). Its very frustrating. They will make at least in the millions off this, and they cant even re-do a defective product. Its just an hour or two of there time.

Im not impressed at all. I'll admit, I should have known better, but its not as easy as they make out. 13 clicks is a joke. lol. Its a lot more involved and time consuming then that. Im sure that all the stuff they talk about is no secret. Find market-keywords-create site-articles-lalala. Im sure you talk about the same stuff here, and whats better, you have it all printed on paper.

Is mass money makers a lie ? Is it dishonest ?

Yes, you dont get what they sell you on the sales page. I bet there is better info out there that is clearer, and is on print. And if its so good, I cant see how its going to work out when so many people will be doing the same thing. I think i'll be getting a refund. I gotta look more into this.

Overall, not happy with it. As for Matt Bakac, I dont trust him , and Im not interested in any more of his products. He didnt get rich being honest, he got rich by pulling tricks like this.

He wont be getting more money from me because his broken my trust. He lied about what he sold me, and on top of that sold a vague product. He outsmarted us, and we took the bait. Its been almost 4 weeks now and iv got nowhere. I;ll be looking into it more, but a refund is looking good.

Last couple of nights i watched all the videos (and consumed mass amounts of caffeine in the process).

I thought they were OK at best - far too long for what they are actually about, for example you listen to Allen talk for 10 mins, then Matt comes in and just repeats everything Allen has just said for another 10 mins, then they umm and arrr and make mistakes, and forget to do things and just generally make a bit of a mess - it's in no way professional.

But if you take it for what it is, i think you can extract a couple of nice little details and perhaps a nice tip or two from the videos - is it worth watching hours and hours of videos for a handful of tips? well i guess that just depends on how much time you've got.

Id suggest if your going to do the course they outline - then mix it up a little bit, and certainly don't use the material they provide - i know it's temping to use some premade stuff, but it will almost certainly be useless and detrimental to your efforts, since thousands of other people will already be using it.

End of the day it's nothing new, you can make money with this method, but don't be a sheep and follow everyone else, make yours a little different.