CPA Shit List

I have been signing up to 100+ CPA networks over the last couple of days and have seen some really unprofessional mom and pop sites that kind of look sketchy. I also have been combing through the shit list here looking for networks that have scammed our members and am compiling a list so none of us will unknowingly sign up and waste our time and money on them.

So far the list is:

millinic*media
click*booth
click*cash

I will keep updating this list as you guys respond.

Xim

I was thinking about signing with millinic*media. Can you provide some detail as to why you would shit-list them?

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...lnicmedia.html

I think millinic and clickbooth are fine.

Yeah the unfortunate part here is that every network has 100 scam stories but many have 50,000 paid on time stories.

Those three combined I probably pull in 30k a month and never have an issue getting paid. I will say that they all shave leads just like others, could be the software, could be intentional, I dont know but Ive learned to accept it.

Also important to remember is that this is "Black Hat World" and a lot of people here complaining about not getting paid were probably sending fake leads, tricking people into offers, running traffic like Myspace and CL that violated terms, etc

Its generally the small time networks that are a huge issue

CamKingsCash and
Ads4Dough would be two examples.

Camkings went belly up, and adsfor dough cant even get their own offers, if you look they use mostly Blue Phoenix's offers. No network has ever shaved more leads than Ads4Dough

It's not that Ads4Dough was shaving but looking into their creatives the links were actually going to their Bluephoenix and Hydra links LOL...

Ads4Dough is under new management and I have seen an epic clean up going on. One of the guys who bought into that network (from Wickedfire) is a sharp fella so I would expect some changes coming soon.

A network is only as good as the people behind running it. Personally I dont care for Millnic Media, Clickbooth is ok, but sites like EpiCenter and Synervation should be kicked off the planet.

ClickCash has been around forever. Its owned by Web Power. To clarify. WebPower owns Ifriends and has made many people millionaires.

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yes i noticed that with a newer network that you all know of has redirects to hydra offers. In particular their education offers.

chillyd1, name names.

I chatted with they ads4dough guy and he seems to be quite the BHer, so who knows.

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Yea they will redirect offers from other networks. Hell, we do it. Until we can get the advertiser privately who wouldn't get it from another network. Speaking from a purely educational side though, it's tough dealing with those advertisers...real tough, I would almost add a layer of protection by brokering it FROM another network. That way they have to place the pixel and if it aint tracking we dont have to worry about them NOT telling us, we can simply see it for ourselves.

Our goal really isn't to be some huge network with a ton of private offers. We have our own offers that we publish thru our own tracking platform and the affiliates never see. Adding to our database is something we do as new advertisers come in, but I can tell you that going thru Credit Checks, credit references, agreements, IO's and etc is not really a fun thing to do. No reason to do that if we can simply pull the offer from somewhere else, offer a competitive payout and people run it.

CpaMaster, Mind if I ask what network you are with?

I stick with Neverblueads and Hydra plenty of offers on just those two networks to make you well over 100k a year. Its the same thing with ebooks people always think(next best offer or system is out there) keep it simple. Most offers are all the same on each network dont expect one network is going to have an offer that convert 150% and epc going to be 100.00 dollars just keep in contact with your affiliate managers. This is what i ask my affiliate manager before i run an offer whats the conversion rate, the epc, and are those numbers based on email traffic,cpc,cpm that is very important. Also make sure the pixels is firing and you always have conversion tracking pixel placed too. If any accounting b.s. happens talk to your affiliate manager usually they got your back. Remember you are the one that keeps food on there table. They work for you not the other way around.

Hey JonD6996,

C'mon now. --> R.U.C.K.