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Old 04-16-2008, 05:04 PM
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Default Stupid Scam: Traffic Kahuna

hxxp://w3.traff*ickahu*na.c0m
UPDATE: Forget it. it's server based and is a membership club style at $147/mo or $1k a year. What does it do? You submit your content (upload). You are given a ftp style account. Then what happens is all the content is published on a blog with a feed. The feed is then subscribed to other blogs. So what happens is you upload your content whether video or otherwise. Then the feed is updated and when someone visits any of the other blogs in the "farm" you're content is seen.

The funny part is the more people in this program, the more your content get's slammed downwards. The point of the exercise is to be able to have 1,931 backlinks pointing to your content. The sites are legit and because there is constant content being fed to each, they show excellent alexa rank.

However, there are only 800 memberships, because Jason has found of course, there are limits the SEs' will tolerate when it comes to duplicate content spamming. And he has to make the money and run before the house of cars comes crashing down.

And this is exactly why I did not use Blog S*ol*ution 3.0 to set up this service two years ago. It all sounds great, until you realize all you are doing is what you can do for free anyways through F*eed B*urner. This is nothing more than paying $147 a month to have your content published on one site and because the feed is subscribed in 1930 other sites, you get backlinks.

Sounds great doesn't it? "More links, more traffic, better indexing." Wrong. These people will sell you anything as long as you'll buy it. The downfall of the human man is he thinks logically. Therefore if it sounds logical, it must be accurate and precise, and therefore "correct." Wrong! This is why God create women. To keep smell the BS in all of us and keep in check from totally shooting ourselves in the head with this type of thinking.

Reality Check: Quality links only matter. The one with the most wins in any keyword market. It is not quantity, but quality of linking. Quality is based upon the amount of ORIGINAL content OVER TIME. There are several other factors, but this one alone makes sure the above product is a sucker bet. All you will have is duplicate content on all these sites pointing back to your site. They will count, but it won't matter, because anyone with around 25 backlinks (PR7) on average, coming from original content sites will beat you every time. Page rank or not, this is how all search engine algorithms work. No one rewards you for a massive amount of backlinks coming from duplicate content sites.

The SE's will most likely call this a "Bad Neighborhood" once they see the constant repetitive pattern here and completely discount all the links coming from these sites. This is why I never followed through with this setup. It doesn't work. And neither do blog farms. Think about 80,000 pieces of repetitive content being fed across 1,931 sites every day. SE Algorithms will pick this up so fast and the game will be over. But not before the owner here pulls down around 200K or better.

I am sure they already had their exit strategy all worked out, before this went on sale. Like, " we're truly sorry about this and I have personally put you on my next scam free of charge coming out next month." Sound familiar? Be careful, Internet Marketers are actually the modern day snake oil salesmen of the mid 1800's. They rape, pillage and leave your soul lying on the ground, as they move on to the next town. In this case, a few months, a new site, a new face, a new method to rob you blind.

Stay clear of this one. Take it from someone who has worked with online casinos. For five months every day, 12 plus hours a day; I studied and consulted casinos on their algorithms. We worked with iterations of 2 to 4 TRILLION outcomes. SE algorithms are far simpler. But they do take into consideration over 600 factors before determining link quality. This above product methodology is so stupid, it will run it's course in less than two months.

In fact I'll make sure Goo**gle gets a copy of it tomorrow. We' ought to hang these jack asses at high noon for this. It's another En*ron scam. Except instead of stock, it's you credit card. Just because something works for a few weeks, doesn't make it a good idea.

I think you can see, if you at least get the free copy of A*arr*on's S*EO Book here and actually read about backlinks, you'll at least see how #$%Fing stupid this product is. If it was this easy, I would have already owned the entire web by now starting two years ago. F*aceb*ook wouldn't even be a reality. But it is and another reality is just because someone can show you results for a moment in time or a few weeks does not make it true for you. Do your self a favor. Stop believing what you read about, " I did it, these newbies did it, now you can too" type of mentality.

This is what it was set up to do. You're the fish to catch. The site and the setup are just the bait. It's a total rook. If you think this product will work, save you money and go set up about 25 blogs and see for your self. There are people out there that will swear it works. It does on keyword markets where there are very little backlinks pointing to top sites. But on high traffic keywords, it fails against any site with quality backlinks. There's a reason for this. It's to stop idiots like JAson here from doing exactly what is being sold here.

Man I have seen some idiots before, but when I actually see a seo software seller flogging a product he knows will get all the links discounted within a few months, you have to realize these are DESPERATE TIMES. And so you should read, "For Des*parate B*uyers Only." It explains how totally capitalize on these desperate times ahead spinning out info products for the "absolutely must have" buyers who will empty their last $50 they have to know what you know.

Yo9u'll make far better money doing the later and never will you be sucked in to the above.. Do some reading on seo and SE algorithms. Review seo forums and see for yourself how stupid the above idea really is.

I actually found out about this this morning from someone who was flogging this product as a "recommended" product from a seller of seo software. That's rich.
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Stupid Scam:Traffic Kahuna

wow ur not a big fan of the traf*fic k*ahuna system eh?
have you ever seen the software that powers their backend? I am going through it now, and am not concerned about the $147, theres a 100% guarantee for refund, so at any point, i can easily ask for a refund.
if you don't know what their backend looks like, OR how this system operates, then go easy... cause from what I can tell at this point, your not bang on with your assessment/overview at all
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:48 PM
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Wow...for someone who has never been behind the Traffic Kahuna curtain you sure know a lot about it...not!

I agree with Stymied...ease up, you are not even close.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: Stupid Scam:Traffic Kahuna

seoagent ~ What a lot of words to say that you don't really know much about Traffic Kahuna. In fact it has been around for a while, but not for open membership. Hundreds of people, of whom I am one, have been using the core tools, which are much more than just a blog network, for the best part of a year now.
I have to say the blog tool is my favourite.

Taking just the blog tool: it is a very large and dispersed network of sites all owned by real people with a real interest in building and maintaining good quality sites, the system is based upon managing quality and is very effective.

Even if the tool package was designed to have a short life I know that my return on investment each month is very good indeed. I get results that I need and save a huge amount of time. I also get content for my sites and can, generally speaking, dominate search terms in which I am interested and nothing black hat, or that I would prefer to not be seen. If the system closed tomorrow I'd have profited hugely on each month's payment.

Does the system of tools suit everyone? Absolutely not but it does suit me and the hundreds of folk using the system. Having seen the tools over time I also know that any limit on numbers is NOT due to limitations in the use of the tools but it does enable the owners to manage support, training and development without falling foul of the issues of uncontrolled growth.

Rather than spouting off about something about which you obviously know nothing, take a look - get a credt card out and come kick the tyres. If you find that you are correct in your assumptions then get a refund. When you find you are wrong, you can still get a refund, although if you are wrong it'd be a mad thing to do. At least you will be able to write in a credible manner about something that you do now know.

Come on, take a look and write a fair report based upon knowledge, not upon fear and prejudice. You can do much better for yourself than you are displaying here.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:05 PM
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mt take on it is simple , give some time first , let see some real tests and the results of those tests then we are talking facts not opinion .

As for the guys trying to make money....thats exactly why we are here on the internet....if you have a lot of experience then perhaps their offer can look like a scam but if your a newbies and most are they will learn like the rest of us , its painful and hits your pocket but thats whats makes the world go around, if we try to stop it then no one would be able to sell on or off the internet and we would all be out of business.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Stupid Scam:Traffic Kahuna

when l had a closer look at seoagent rant in his post, l found it funy to see a trackback direct to traffic kuhunnas websit, classic marketing trick to attack your own product in a forum and get the members wanting to know wht the hell is going on and eventually visit your website, think its called the shepherd and the flock methos and most fall for it. lol
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when l had a closer look at seoagent rant in his post, l found it funy to see a trackback direct to traffic kuhunnas websit, classic marketing trick to attack your own product in a forum and get the members wanting to know wht the hell is going on and eventually visit your website, think its called the shepherd and the flock methos and most fall for it. lol
Wow, great way of thinking really. I never thought about that :P
I was attracted to the site lol. But when I read your post I just closed the thread.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:30 PM
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Great post man, i enjoyed it and i think it touched one of my nerves...

Stay away from this shit "i say" , times are desperate!!!
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:03 AM
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nicho,

I have read several posts by you. I really like your jaded outlook and no BS approach. Forgive me a reflective moment:

Occam's razor (paraphrased): All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best.

Nicho's razor: See for yourself.

These are great BS shovels.

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Old 04-17-2008, 05:18 AM
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SEOTools = owner of the program
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:19 AM
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dustybin = seotools = the sellers of this program
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I subscribed to this today. To be honest, I am something of a newbie to black hat, so I could very well be a sucker. However, it was pitched as a network of decent PR blogs, each with their own niche. I've got a site with a variety of subjects, so the idea is to be able to get in-links from the targeted set of blogs, and ideally use a good percentage of the ones they have available.

One thing I'm not sure of- is once you get the links from the various blogs; is there much value to continue the monthly subscription, since how much value is really provided by getting yet another link from the same blog? I was hoping that they might push to have their content syndicated by other publishers/sites, because that would expand the sites that further broaden the sites that would have in-links to my pages.

I guess time will tell.
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:47 AM
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You guys are killing me...are you watching this forum in real time? Three new members all with 1 post, all commenting on this program...LOLOLOLOLOL come on guys, we are smarter than that. Reminds me of an xrumer trick
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:48 AM
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I AM an affiliate for a set of tools that I use. Most of the time anything I recommend is something that I use or have used so I tend to know retty well what I am writing or talking abo