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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie View Post
    Hi - what are the ideal settings for Charon to gather U.S. Non-Codeen Proxies? Or just non-codeen proxies in general. I'm a total noob so forgive me if this is like 101 stuff. I've searched around and I can't really find anything. NON-CODEEN are most important. Is there another name for these as well?
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    http://www.dcsproxy.com/proxy-tools/...sion-list.html
    This is an updated Planetlab filter, just copy the text and overwrite it with what's in your file.
    That's pretty much it. Just sort by country when you're done and take the ones you want.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    How about using Hotspot Shield? Can be a bitch to uninstall unless of 'cos if you use Revo uninstaller (excellent IMHO).

    I have been using HSS and apart from the annoying ads it displays, it works brilliant!

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Proxies that require authentication were reported as good, why?
    e.g.:
    64.79.197.37:34251

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Quote Originally Posted by cashcow View Post
    Proxies that require authentication were reported as good, why?
    e.g.:
    64.79.197.37:34251
    You try testing that against the site check? It should rule out things like that.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Hey. Thanks for this info. I wish I had found this section first when I joined BHW. Would have saved me $80 that I spent on proxy software and a dozen "FUCK YOU VISTA!" screaming fits. Its a shame that its not in the sidebar for the forum. This subforum is crucial reading for all noobs and for me personally its been the most useful thing in the whole forum to date. I say this because lack of quality proxies, and knowledge of how they work, etc has kept me from effectively applying so many other good methods shared here. Big thanks again.

    BTW: I read on the dcs forum for about an hour too. Lorissa scares the Sh$%t out of me.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Guys, i have follow what the instruction mention but when i click 'Check anonymity of all proxies', it did not come out any list. strange..any help here?

    Also as i am using winxp 64, does it have any effect on it? One thing to note that i am using my office connection which mean that's a router on it. [This include my home as well] Does this has any effect on it?

    Also i went to those free IP address tracker, whenever i paste my ip in the IP address and reopen to double check the IP. It's different what i paste. Any ideas why like this?
    Appreciate someone can help. Thanks

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Ok I was looking for a good proxy. I am completely noob when it comes to setting up proxies and different terminology related to this but I'm usually good at following most any direction to set up anything.

    Anyway I was doing good until I got to the part about finding the lowest azenv 1.04. I found one proxy with 78 pings. However that is a bad address. So I moved that proxy to the unused list. Mostly all the addresses are bad. I try to copy and paste all the proxies again to the judge section to start the process over and now all the proxies including the one I sent to the top have a ping of 0. When I do the very last step to test none of the ip's are there and the program is not doing anything. Can you plese help?

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    The best thing is to just install the judge on your own server. That way, it will be fast and will not slow down your checking.
    You can download it here, or just get the updated list of judges from there.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    wow that's fantastic. I had google open in one tab looking for a proxy checker and then i stumble across this. I love perfect timing.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Quote Originally Posted by gold digz007 View Post
    Ok I was looking for a good proxy. I am completely noob when it comes to setting up proxies and different terminology related to this but I'm usually good at following most any direction to set up anything.

    Anyway I was doing good until I got to the part about finding the lowest azenv 1.04. I found one proxy with 78 pings. However that is a bad address. So I moved that proxy to the unused list. Mostly all the addresses are bad. I try to copy and paste all the proxies again to the judge section to start the process over and now all the proxies including the one I sent to the top have a ping of 0. When I do the very last step to test none of the ip's are there and the program is not doing anything. Can you plese help?
    If I'm reading this correctly, you're pasting the proxy list to the judge section? That'd have a lot to do with your struggle.

    The proxy list goes into the main, gigantic window. You paste the list of judges I linked into the judge window.

    Unless of course you selected Internal Judge in the connection settings, which is generally preferable. Then you don't need to bother with the Judge section at all.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Side note for noobs like me...

    If you import text list, and check them, make sure you make 'Allow List' in PeerGuardian2 or disable it. I had zero good proxies on my first test. Looked at PG2 and it blocked every single one.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Note: Rhino, the creator of the program (so you can assume he knows what he's talking about), says


    This is flavour country. Your own IP address should be at the top, and you'll want to select "External Judge". This lets you use a judge script outside your own box, which prevents all manner of problems and ensures a more accurate test. For threads and time-out you'll want somewhere between 15-30 generally, until you get more comfortable with what we're doing here and your own system's preferable setup. Threads is the amount of connections the checker can open at once while running through the list, and timeout is the amount of time it waits until it decides an IP is no good and the response is never coming. Retry is of course how many chances it gives an IP before it gives up and declares it Dead.
    Does this mean we should use internal judge or not? The two recomendations conflict.



    http://www.dcsproxy.com/proxy-tools/...sion-list.html
    This is an updated Planetlab filter, just copy the text and overwrite it with what's in your file.

    http://www.dcsproxy.com/proxy-tools/...s-exclude.html
    This is a list of UniqueInternetServices (makers of Proxyfirewall) IPs which may show up on your lists but will not be usable by you. To add this you must create a new filter file. Just open notepad, copy all the IPs in the above post, and paste them into the notepad file. Save it as "UniqueInternetServices.ini" and place it into the filterfiles folder in your charon folder and you're good to go. Don't forget to restart Charon and select it.
    Are these two filters still good? The post were made quite a while ago.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Code:
    this wonderful post and select all of the judges labeled "AZ Environment variables 1.04".  Read the post as well, it'll help.
    Also this thread has been spammed to hell by Xrumer or something.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Thanks a lot for this, been looking for a proxy checker.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Does anyone know why I don't see any proxy being populated at all when I use the search engine scanning for proxy??

    Weird last night it worked fine but now ,,it is fully emptied...my judges is working though,,please help thanks.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    just going to try testing a MASSIVE list of ips thanks to this thread. I am preety sure all fo them will be dead lol.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Quote Originally Posted by triste View Post
    The best thing is to just install the judge on your own server. That way, it will be fast and will not slow down your checking.
    You can download it here, or just get the updated list of judges from there.
    how do I import this judges to charon .. ?
    i went to Judge Options > PHP Judges and added the judges to php checkers .. but when I go back from there to Judge Options window I see the same list I have from default .. without any update ..
    Last edited by Claudiu; 06-25-2009 at 09:26 PM.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    I really need help setting up judges as the one I'm using show me bad info .. like for example in charon a proxy is shown to be from china, but when the same proxy is checked with gmail signup it turns out it's from italy ..

    I've used Stan for internal and cleared all the bad external judges (leaving me with very few external) and same problem i get with both internal and external .. I'd really apreciate some help with this

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Apekillape,

    Thanks for the time that you took to share your knowledge. It is much appreciated.


    I am running into an error that reads: ERROR OPENING DATABASE GeoIP Database.


    What am I doing wrong?

    Thanks

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    Ah ha. It all makes sense now. Cheers Ape...

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Thanks for this post.

    I've always wondered why if it's preferred to use the internal judge why do some people use external judges?

    I have a couple questions about Charon that I can't find answer to here, if I may ask:

    1) Where do I find the most updated list. The one shown is from sometime in 2008.

    2) How or where do I add an updated list of external judges into Charon(if I wanted to use external judges).
    - Do I paste over the updated list in the notepad file called "judges - configuration settings"? It has this warning inside so I don't want to mess with it:
    ### Judges file ###
    ### You mess with this and it's your own bloody fault ###

    - Or do I add them into the "Proxy Judge Options" menu inside the programme?
    - - And would I copy the updated list and then select "paste judges from clipboard" option by right clicking mouse (to enter them all at one time)?

    3) How do I know which ones are the "finding the lowest azenv 1.04"? I don't understand this part but if explained I'll learn very quickly.

    4) Where do we copy and overwrite the "ProxyLab filter" list. Where do I find the file? Should I just delete and paste over the list of PlanetLab IPs in the PlantetLab folder inside "filterfiles" folder (this makes the most sense)?

    I know Charon is a great tool. These may seem like simple questions but I'd really like to be able to use it effectively to test proxies.

    I have no interest in using the leeching part of it as it takes hours upon hours to get too few proxies (I'd be lucky to get 25 proxies after 6 or more hours leeching).


    Thanks to anyone for your help.



    Quote Originally Posted by apekillape View Post
    If I'm reading this correctly, you're pasting the proxy list to the judge section? That'd have a lot to do with your struggle.

    The proxy list goes into the main, gigantic window. You paste the list of judges I linked into the judge window.

    Unless of course you selected Internal Judge in the connection settings, which is generally preferable. Then you don't need to bother with the Judge section at all.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Quote Originally Posted by persyme View Post
    I've always wondered why if it's preferred to use the internal judge why do some people use external judges?
    Code:
    http://proxy-masterz.com/vb/f15/5589/
    Quote Originally Posted by persyme View Post
    1) Where do I find the most updated list. The one shown is from sometime in 2008.
    Does it not work? I don't see a problem if it does.
    Quote Originally Posted by persyme View Post
    2) How or where do I add an updated list of external judges into Charon(if I wanted to use external judges).

    - Do I paste over the updated list in the notepad file called "judges - configuration settings"? It has this warning inside so I don't want to mess with it:
    ### Judges file ###
    ### You mess with this and it's your own bloody fault ###

    - Or do I add them into the "Proxy Judge Options" menu inside the programme?
    - - And would I copy the updated list and then select "paste judges from clipboard" option by right clicking mouse (to enter them all at one time)?
    You miss this bit?

    Quote Originally Posted by apekillape View Post


    This bit was in the original post before I edited in Rhino's position on the matter. It's either/or, don;t try to do both, haha.
    This is flavour country. Your own IP address should be at the top, and you'll want to select "External Judge". This lets you use a judge script outside your own box, which prevents all manner of problems and ensures a more accurate test. For threads and time-out you'll want somewhere between 15-30 generally, until you get more comfortable with what we're doing here and your own system's preferable setup. Threads is the amount of connections the checker can open at once while running through the list, and timeout is the amount of time it waits until it decides an IP is no good and the response is never coming. Retry is of course how many chances it gives an IP before it gives up and declares it Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by persyme View Post
    3) How do I know which ones are the "finding the lowest azenv 1.04"? I don't understand this part but if explained I'll learn very quickly.
    Lowest ping. Ping is the time it takes for info to get from one machine to the other. So naturally, you want it to take as little time as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by persyme View Post
    4) Where do we copy and overwrite the "ProxyLab filter" list. Where do I find the file? Should I just delete and paste over the list of PlanetLab IPs in the PlantetLab folder inside "filterfiles" folder (this makes the most sense)?
    Yep.
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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Thank you so much! I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate your helpful answers. You are the best apekillape!

    I'm really sorry though, I'm still a little unclear on a couple things.

    I can't figure out if you guys are saying external or internal proxy judges are better, or if you each have different preferences. What is your preference, external judges? I only plan to do checking of proxies, not grabbing or leeching (too much time).
    P.S. Thank you for the forum link.

    Re: "Does it not work? I don't see a problem if it does."
    Cool, I just wanted to be sure.


    Re: "You miss this bit?"
    No, I didn't miss it. I'm really sorry but it's only confused me more. It first appears you recommend using external judges. But are you then pointing out that Rhino suggests using internal judges?

    I really apologize for being so confused about this. I just want to make sure I get it right.

    Here's what I see Rhino suggests (is this what you refer to adding in your post?). But is this only for leeching and checking or just for checking lists of proxies?

    (These are partial quotes - to save space):
    Quote Originally Posted by ortal View Post
    Should I test the proxy judges in order to find the one with the lowest ping every time that I use Charon?
    Quote Originally Posted by _rhino_ View Post
    My personal opinion is that you should use the internal judge. You can guarantee then that it won't suddenly become overloaded and start giving out cached results, or won't go down mid-test ... plus a few other potential benefits.


    If using external judges:
    There appears to be different types of judges; Textenv, ProxyJudge V2.35. Does it matter which ones you use?

    Some end in php, some end in cgi. Does that mean they only check either php or cgi proxies?

    Is it better to use multiple judges, all that test good (and move them to the top box), or is it better to have fewer external judges being used?


    Again apekillape, I thank you so very much for your help.






    Quote Originally Posted by apekillape View Post
    Code:
    http://proxy-masterz.com/vb/f15/5589/


    Does it not work? I don't see a problem if it does.


    You miss this bit?






    Lowest ping. Ping is the time it takes for info to get from one machine to the other. So naturally, you want it to take as little time as possible.



    Yep.
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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Rhino says he prefers Internal, so I agree with him. I left in directions for using external in case people wanted to do that instead.

    There's nothing whatsoever in my post about leeching proxies.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Hey This is all well and good but does it really work and what exactly are we trying to accomplish here be using this? I think I understand but would like someone here to clarify.

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    ...wait, what?

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Are you serious? I'd suggest.....reading the thread perhaps . Otherwise.....congratulations on increasing your post count by one.

    Quote Originally Posted by sharessat View Post
    Hey This is all well and good but does it really work and what exactly are we trying to accomplish here be using this? I think I understand but would like someone here to clarify.

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    I agree. Awesome post. I've been searching for a solution to anonymity online and changing ips. I'm off to download and start using this.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    These IPs don't work for cl....any suggestions? please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undertheworld View Post
    These IPs don't work for cl....any suggestions? please.
    Some will, but I wouldn't use the ones you'd get from public forums no. If you're doing CL, pay for them.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Nice work to rhino and apekillape. Much appreciated. Internal scanning returns about a 2% success rate over 10k ips. I'm okay with that... but was just surprised. Here's to accuracy, accessibility, speed, and invisibility!

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    thanks for the soft. and for the tips!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kotentie View Post
    Does this mean we should use internal judge or not? The two recomendations conflict.

    Are these two filters still good? The post were made quite a while ago.
    Yeah - does anyone know where to get the latest UniqueInternetServices.ini and planetlab.ini files?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    little tip do not use microsoft.com as the page to check http from use google as the guide says. When I used microsoft the program would not work and it took me 2 hours to figure this out... thank god I finally am able to get a good proxy list now tho.

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Noob question here regarding anonymous proxies - heh!

    I read the "socksification" thread and the directions for finding socks proxies (good info!!). I already understand proxies hide my true IP.

    I ran a bunch through Charon (Check Proxies >> Check Anonyminities of Proxies) and found almost 300. However, none came up as "Anonymous" according to Charon (in other words, nothing indicated in the Anon column). My question is, are these socks proxies considered the anonymous proxies we are seeking?

    Thanks!

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    I just ran a large list some of which I got from here others I got from elsewhere on then net some dated as released as today.
    All of them came back as bad....

    Is there any point in searching out free proxies in this day and age seeing as a lot more people know about the usefulness of them?

    Is it not much simpler to buy some shared ones on a Monthly plan or other?

    Not kocking Charon or the work put in by the originator(s) of this thread but BH these days is results balanced against time. All the time you are putting in searching out free proxy's is time wasted in pursuing more worthwhile projects, particulary when you can pick up low cost ones?

    To be honest if I want a movie or a piece of commercial software (most of the stuff we use doesn't appear there) I go to Newzbin and get the nzb file.I know I will get what I am after and with minimal resources in tracking it down.
    On that basis I am happy to pay Newzbin a modest fee in being allowed access to their NZB search engines.

    Isn't it time to face up to the best all round solution, even though it may not be free?
    I don't have to pay Newzbin and I could go into usenet and look for what I need but again it is time and resources.

    Isn't it time we faced up to the same strategy with proxies?
    Views appreciated..

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    How can I test the speeds of proxies using charon?
    tis what it is

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    Quote Originally Posted by hosttab5 View Post
    Hey. Thanks for this info. I wish I had found this section first when I joined BHW. Would have saved me $80 that I spent on proxy software and a dozen "FUCK YOU VISTA!" screaming fits. Its a shame that its not in the sidebar for the forum. This subforum is crucial reading for all noobs and for me personally its been the most useful thing in the whole forum to date. I say this because lack of quality proxies, and knowledge of how they work, etc has kept me from effectively applying so many other good methods shared here. Big thanks again.
    I Agree and Second that!

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    This may be a dumb question but I cannot work out how to save/export the filtered proxy list in a ip>port>anon>country format - it only seems to allow three export options?

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    Thanks for the tutorial

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    this program still working, i tested to import some proxies from this forum, all were crashed

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidaz View Post
    this program still working, i tested to import some proxies from this forum, all were crashed
    The proxies here get burned very quickly so try to find another source !

    And also change the "Check against the site" to google instead of micr0soft if you haven't done it already.

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    it's really work thank you ))

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    Default Re: Quick n' Dirty Guide to Charon - Free, Good Proxy Checker

    How many proxies usually i have to test before finding a ANON one ?

    The last 80 returned all to be not anon
    Or maybe i'm using in a wrong way the software ? is it enough to set internal judge for a reliable anon test ?
    THank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer466 View Post
    I just ran a large list some of which I got from here others I got from elsewhere on then net some dated as released as today.
    All of them came back as bad....

    Is there any point in searching out free proxies in this day and age seeing as a lot more people know about the usefulness of them?

    Is it not much simpler to buy some shared ones on a Monthly plan or other?

    Not kocking Charon or the work put in by the originator(s) of this thread but BH these days is results balanced against time. All the time you are putting in searching out free proxy's is time wasted in pursuing more worthwhile projects, particulary when you can pick up low cost ones?

    To be honest if I want a movie or a piece of commercial software (most of the stuff we use doesn't appear there) I go to Newzbin and get the nzb file.I know I will get what I am after and with minimal resources in tracking it down.
    On that basis I am happy to pay Newzbin a modest fee in being allowed access to their NZB search engines.

    Isn't it time to face up to the best all round solution, even though it may not be free?
    I don't have to pay Newzbin and I could go into usenet and look for what I need but again it is time and resources.

    Isn't it time we faced up to the same strategy with proxies?
    Views appreciated..
    I'm curious if its worth my time too, I suppose it depends on how people are using the proxies.

    What is everyone using the proxies for, just blog back links or?

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