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How can I write a script that checks anonimity of proxies in perl, for example?
Charon comes with an example written php (that you can actually call from the program to spread the 'checking' load).
Almost any programmer can read other code, so if you're proficient in perl just convert it to that?
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Have you actually loaded any proxies? I copied both lists from the links at the beginning. I have it searching the internet now but its taking forever is that normal.
No, not really. It could happen, however, if you have the following combination:
  • Searching the search engines
  • 'Test proxies with current settings' checked which will test them before adding the found ones to the list
  • Incorrctly set up test paramaters which means that none will ever pass.
So, basically, we should check out the settings.
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Using the internal or external judge(s)?I'm using external judges.
Checked the judge(s) work?Looks like the judges work.
Inside the judge options there is a 'Test Judges' button - use that to test them.
I've had a great number of people not 'get' this dialog, so don't take it as patronising when I sk if you've moved the 'good' proxies to the top box?

Judges selected to use - These are the ones Charon will cycle through.
Unused Judges - These won't be used - they're just there in case you want to use them later.

Make sure you have at least one good working judge (that passed the test) in the top box and that you've selected "Use External Judge(s)" in the "Connect Options" dialog.
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Tried checking a single proxy?How do you check the proxy with charon? Or do you mean manually by inputting with ie?
I mean paste a recent list (from a forum or similar) into Charon, then right click on one (some) and select "Test selected proxy(ies)"

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Sniffed the network connection to determine if anything is actually happening? Not sure whatthis means its compiling a list but its taking forever.
I meant to watch your network traffic to determine what connections were being made - to see if the program was actually trying to test anything. We can get back to this later if needed.

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thx for the help
Every problem so far has been an incorrect configuration. I haven't found anyone that can't use the program ywt.
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Thanks a lot for the guide, I appreciate it
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Charon comes with an example written php (that you can actually call from the program to spread the 'checking' load).
Almost any programmer can read other code, so if you're proficient in perl just convert it to that?
The php code from Charon declares any proxy to be dead, even seconds after it was found to be anon. by Charon itself. However I will be glad for any help how to convert it to perl.
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The php code from Charon declares any proxy to be dead, even seconds after it was found to be anon. by Charon itself. However I will be glad for any help how to convert it to perl.
Having just tested it on two new hosts (besides the several it was initially tested with) and seeing it work without any changes to the default script, I can only conclude that you did something wrong.

Regarding converting it, I'd want to see something from you before doing all the work. Look through the script. Look at what each function does and write down what parameters it takes in and gives out. Set up a flow diagram and we can go from there.
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Great tutorial, Charon really is a nice proxy checker program. Thank you.
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Checking 800 proxies with Charon takes in my computer (1G RAM, 2.8 GHz, 1.5M internet connection ' soon to be upgraded to 2.5M) well over half an hour, checing 1800 almost two hours. In this rate leeching thousands of proxies from forums will be a waste of time.This is fur too much time. I think that heard this could be done in 5 minutes - but how?
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One thin I read is that bleech is faster but flawfull- it reports manay transparent as anonymous.
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Checking 800 proxies with Charon takes in my computer (1G RAM, 2.8 GHz, 1.5M internet connection ' soon to be upgraded to 2.5M) well over half an hour, checing 1800 almost two hours. In this rate leeching thousands of proxies from forums will be a waste of time.This is fur too much time. I think that heard this could be done in 5 minutes - but how?
It does sound a little extreme.
What do you have set for timeout / retry timeouts / internal or external judge(s) and which one(s) ?
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It does sound a little extreme.
What do you have set for timeout / retry timeouts / internal or external judge(s) and which one(s) ?
timeout 20; retry timeouts 1; one external judge - http://proxywordl.hbg.fr/azenv.php (ping ~300 - right now I tested again the proxy judges from azenv 1.04 and found another one with ping 140).

Should I test the proxy judges in order to find the one with the lowest ping every time that I use Charon?

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Having just tested it on two new hosts (besides the several it was initially tested with) and seeing it work without any changes to the default script, I can only conclude that you did something wrong.

Regarding converting it, I'd want to see something from you before doing all the work. Look through the script. Look at what each function does and write down what parameters it takes in and gives out. Set up a flow diagram and we can go from there.
I just surfed again to the page uploaded to my linux server and. Can't see what could be wrong. Even if I could find a free hosting service that allows php it would be pointless to upload it to there in order to show you that (from obvious reasons).
My idea is to integrate proxy leaching with checking them ( and later on with youtube increasing ) in one perl script. But maybe I could simply call the php page from the script? But whould that be faster than using Charon? Maybe just if I put them on the same server and not running the script on my computer?
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timeout 20; retry timeouts 1; one external judge - http://proxywordl.hbg.fr/azenv.php (ping ~300 - right now I tested again the proxy judges from azenv 1.04 and found another one with ping 140).
From the looks of it, that judge appears to be working ok.
If the proxies are indeed bad, and being left to time out, then with the "retry" option above that'll be 40 seconds that each one ties the program up for. To speed things up (but potentially miss a couple of proxies) you can always set the retry value down to zero.
Failing that, it could just be a very bad list of proxies you're trying to test?
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Should I test the proxy judges in order to find the one with the lowest ping every time that I use Charon?
My personal opinion is that you should use the internal judge. You can guarantee then that it won't suddenly become overloaded and start giving out cached results, or won't go down mid-test ... plus a few other potential benefits.
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I just surfed again to the page uploaded to my linux server and.
Just to confirm .... you did actually upload this to a server hosted on the internet (as in, fully qualified domain name reachable from the web) and not just some random pc you have with a php engine installed?
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i've done everything but my ip list is still empty, why???? pls help me
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i've done everything but my ip list is still empty, why???? pls help me
By IP list ... you mean proxy list?
Although this might have been lost in the vast information within your post ... I'll ask anyway.

What was the error message explaining the problem?
(This would have been on the box you clicked "OK"/"Yes" to and continued before posting here).
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yeah i mean proxy, sorry, i've clicked on check anonymity of all proxies, and charon started to chacking validity of my jugde, but when he finished the list of proxies is still empty, sorry for my english. is my first time using a proxy so i'm noob :P.
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Ok ... if you've selected "Check the anonymity of all proxies" then it'll check the anonymity of the proxies in the list. If that list is empty, it won't take very long at all.

To populate the list with proxies - the two easiest ways are either
  • Take a list of proxies (such as in the proxylists subforum here) and paste them into the program
  • Use the inbuilt search-engine routines to scour the net looking for public servers.

I'd suggest that the copy and paste approach might be easiest for now. Give that a go, get some proxies in the list, and then try verifying them.
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yeah dude, i've done all you say to me but i don't get the list like in the pictures http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09checkeh7.png , mine is empty, ooooooh i seee, i've got it, i think. ty for now

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Just to confirm .... you did actually upload this to a server hosted on the internet (as in, fully qualified domain name reachable from the web) and not just some random pc you have with a php engine installed?
Sure - it's on my web site.
As for TI I raised my record to 5K views when I ran only one instance of the program with 250 working public-pages-proxies, 2.5M internet connection speed and 30sec delay (several times less than that seemed to be harmful to the account. Didn't want to take the risk once more). And that's only middling to fair - better than the max 1K I had before, far from 40K.
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how do i load the lists. i right click and select load and pick something bbut nothing happens
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how do i load the lists. i right click and select load and pick something bbut nothing happens
What is the format of the list you're trying to load?
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its a .txt file. should i be using something else?
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By format, I mean a ".txt" file containing what?

If you're loading proxies, they should be in the format of
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hostname:port
ip_address:port
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hmmm mine arent in that format. where can i find a list like that
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hmmm mine arent in that format. where can i find a list like that
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Where have you looked? There are lists in many places (including googling for 'proxylist') so the fact you've asked does say a few things about how much effort you've put in.

If they're not in that format, what format are they in?
Converting them should be a relatively simple matter providing they actually contain the data. Why not post a couple of lines from the file and we'll go from there?
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sorry i was looking for a list as i typed that

i found a list so all i have to do is make a new txt doc, paste it then load it into the program?
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If you already have it on the clipboard, just paste it straight into the program.
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I am sure I will get a read the forum answer. I believe I recall seeing where you should not scan for proxies from your home ISP as this could get your home account taken away.

Is this the same as running proxies in Charon to test them as good?
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Not at all the same.

Scanning IPs is what you're talking about, that entails checking whole ranges of IPs for open ports. Simple checking through a tool like Charon is done by checking very specific IPs in a much less aggressive fashion.

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Hi there rhino!

Please pardon my ignorance but you're the creator of this brilliant programme aren't you?

I used to read posts from you in a couple of forums you used to either own or be a part of (about 2 years ago).

Awesome to see you part of this forum!

My apologies for such a late reply to this topic. I'm still learning about using this forum (any forum for that matter) and I've just realised there is more than 1 page to the posts here.

Thanks so much for your very, very helpful information here. As you've stated in a couple posts here it's all in the configurations, and indeed I didn't have some things set right.
"Every problem so far has been an incorrect configuration. I haven't found anyone that can't use the program ywt."

Mainly my problem was not placing the correct judges into the top box as explained as follows:
"Inside the judge options there is a 'Test Judges' button - use that to test them.
I've had a great number of people not 'get' this dialog, so don't take it as patronising when I sk if you've moved the 'good' proxies to the top box?

Judges selected to use - These are the ones Charon will cycle through.
Unused Judges - These won't be used - they're just there in case you want to use them later.

Make sure you have at least one good working judge (that passed the test) in the top box and that you've selected "Use External Judge(s)" in the "Connect Options" dialog."


Also, would you recommend using the internal judge or an external judge to check a list of proxies that I'd paste into Charon?

Again rhino, I'd like to thank you for your brilliant programme and for your kind and helpful assistance here!

Happy New Year to you and yours mate!





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No, not really. It could happen, however, if you have the following combination:
  • Searching the search engines
  • 'Test proxies with current settings' checked which will test them before adding the found ones to the list
  • Incorrctly set up test paramaters which means that none will ever pass.
So, basically, we should check out the settings.

Inside the judge options there is a 'Test Judges' button - use that to test them.
I've had a great number of people not 'get' this dialog, so don't take it as patronising when I sk if you've moved the 'good' proxies to the top box?

Judges selected to use - These are the ones Charon will cycle through.
Unused Judges - These won't be used - they're just there in case you want to use them later.

Make sure you have at least one good working judge (that passed the test) in the top box and that you've selected "Use External Judge(s)" in the "Connect Options" dialog.

I mean paste a recent list (from a forum or similar) into Charon, then right click on one (some) and select "Test selected proxy(ies)"


I meant to watch your network traffic to determine what connections were being made - to see if the program was actually trying to test anything. We can get back to this later if needed.


Every problem so far has been an incorrect configuration. I haven't found anyone that can't use the program ywt.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:57 AM
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Thanks so much! I have been looking for a program like this for years. It makes everything very simple and gives us the anonymity that should be our right as internet users.
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Old 02-15-2009, 07:36 PM
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Ok, I have my list of anonymous proxies. In Charon, what does it mean when the column, "site, " says good or bad? This was a little confusing because there is also a column that is titled "connect." Which obviously mean that you're either able to connect to the proxy or not. Please clarify and correct me if I'm wrong in my thinking here.
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:05 PM
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The "site" field is for a specific test you can add in via the menu on the left. It tests whether you can connect to a specific site or not via the proxy you're testing.

I'm on a foreign machine at the moment, when I get back I'll put up an example with pictures.

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Awesome post OP! So now, is searching the internet for proxy's the most efficient way, or posting a proxy list?
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:32 PM
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Hi apekillape ,
Do you use Tor instead of proxies ? Do you think Tor can hide our IP very well ? I'm currently useing Tor and my IP is changing automaticlly all the time without needing looking for new proxies !
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:20 PM
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I am completely against TOR, TOR's parents, and whoever TOR voted for in the November election.

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I cannot get the original links for dcsproxy dot com to load. Will that make a big difference in the results I get from the program?
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Thanks for the great tutorial here. I just scanned a list of 8000 ecent proxies and it came out with 100 anon. Unfortunatly most of these will only let me browse one site!!

I put google in as check against but they still came up. How can I remove these from the list. Again thanks so much for this tutorial. excellent material.
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what do you mean by only one site ?
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this rocks! thanks for posting.
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Hi - what are the ideal settings for Charon to gather U.S. Non-Codeen Proxies? Or just non-codeen proxies in general. I'm a total noob so forgive me if this is like 101 stuff. I've searched around and I can't really find anything. NON-CODEEN are most important. Is there another name for these as well?
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Old 03-13-2009, 09:47 AM
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I am confused on it.

I think I followed the tot, But do something with the judge then start checking, always pop up the error message, said invalid judge..., I did what should do for it, but the judge section always empty, where is my judge which I had tested?

I imported more than 5700 proxy IPs which comes from Proxy Finder Enterprise, contining click "ok" to the invalid popup message...

I don't know what's wrong ...

Any help
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