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    I would like to learn a coding language. I think C would be too heart, so i want to learn PHP.
    Only for me and maybe later for small projects. I only know a bit of HTML.
    Can i learn PHP and MYSQL if i buy a good book and work hard on it ?
    Or any other suggestions what's better for a newbie ?




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    I'd suggest learning HTML and CSS first because PHP's output is HTML.
    It's not difficult to learn it. http://w3schools.com is a great place.

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    Default Re: Is PHP hard to learn for a newbie ?

    So many opinions on this.
    I should at least go for HTML and CSS first.

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    Default Re: Is PHP hard to learn for a newbie ?

    Okay, PHP outputs HTML if that is what you want it to do.

    It is very important to learn the HTML and CSS standards before you start delving into server side programming languages, as the protocols are very important in all web access. As for the difficulty of learning it, it greatly varies depending on your grasp of programming languages. If you understand the syntax of other languages PHP will be no problem for you. If you have never programmed before it may take a little more time.

    My suggestion is to start off by learning how to set up quality HTML code. Next you need to know how to augment that code with CSS. Once you have those two taken care of you can start to delve into PHP or ASP.

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    Thanks guys for the help

    I will try to get a good book about HTML/CSS programming

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    I suggest you to go to codecademy.com learning html, php, css, ruby, asp etc etc will be a nice game!

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    Wat iz you talking about Cletus?

    PHP outputs HTML if that is what you want it to do ?!

    That's stupid.. Output is text/html which is HTML with or without HTML tags.

    Also you need to learn HTML with CSS.. learning them separately doesn't make sense.
    Also, ASP is old and it's syntax is not that common anymore.. ASP.NET and it's MVC is the new shit.

    I'd suggest OP to use PHP to get basic understanding of OOP and then ASP.NET if he wants it.

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    Choose any course from UDEMY..

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    php seems really easy if you know the syntax. I know vb.net which is very easy and php is quite similar.
    I think if you checked out a few tuts you'd be off writing within a week or two.

    I've been using this site to ease me into php and I find it good to learn from. The tutorials aren't boring like some.

    php-101-php-for-the-absolute-beginner/

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    Rather than books, you should try watching some videos on youtube or where you can find good one.
    Bet that's more faster and easy way to learn php. Good Luck

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    Best place to start HTML/CSS :


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    Difficulty is in the eye of the beholder. But if you are motivated and stick to it you will progress pretty fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diplomat View Post
    Wat iz you talking about Cletus?
    not stupid. He is saying that PHP outputs HTML if you want it to. You can use PHP to do a lot of things without ever outputting any HTML such as outputting JSON or XML or create your own API. You don't need to know HTML/CSS to learn PHP however it is recommended to know HTML just because you are dealing with websites. Technically though you shouldn't need to know HTML if learning PHP because the PHP is logic and it should be separated from the HTML. Same with CSS. You also do not need to learn HTML with CSS. They should be separated. however, it is recommended that you know some CSS and how to position your elements. .NET still uses ASP code. ASP is old. So is PHP. They are both still common but PHP is more common. Personally I prefer PHP over ASP and .NET.

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    You can learn any language with google and a little motivation and patience. PHP is the best place to start (and some javascript). PHP is my jam and has helped me make thousands and thousands of dollars. Thumbs up over here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert90 View Post
    I would like to learn a coding language. I think C would be too heart, so i want to learn PHP.
    Only for me and maybe later for small projects. I only know a bit of HTML.
    Can i learn PHP and MYSQL if i buy a good book and work hard on it ?
    Or any other suggestions what's better for a newbie ?
    PHP is a large world, there are 10 years + pros who admit to still go back to their learning resources when the need arises--what's important is taking the first step, understanding the curve in Programming and upping your game. It's not difficult, you simply need to have the motivation, find the right resources that won't make it look like rocket science and if possible join a community.

    I can't suggest buying books would be the summa for you, some people (like myself) learn better with websites and video tutorials. If you know your forte of learning, stick to it, if it's books buy a well-rounded book (don't get chickened by the size), if it's online resources there're quite a lot to choose from say subscriptions and free ones (depending on your budget). Long story short, hit Google, read the comments on here and in numerous other forums, and you could be scribbling codes in the first month of the new year.

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    I wasn't going to comment here since you've gotten all the answers you needed but PHP is easy to understand as long as you understand the syntax.
    If you're planning on learning PHP, you should definitely learn HTML(5) and CSS(3), as it'll make things much easier for your case.
    HTML could be described as the texture of a design, while the coloring is used from CSS. That's just a simple example.

    It's always good to know many different languages.

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    When I started learning PHP, I started by writing a content management system. Turns out that it was the worst content management system in human history, but I sure learned a lot. Another friend of mine learned PHP through programming a web based game.
    Point is, try to find something interesting that will keep your attention for a long development process! Then, resign yourself to a very long learning curve.

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    PHP is not hard to learn. If you know C a bit, you'll be find.

    But the difficulty with PHP, its that you can't JUST know PHP... You need to know these too:

    - HTML
    - CSS
    - Javascript
    - SQL

    They all work together -- in a way -- and with PHP alone, you won't go very far... But if you can learn the rest (or if you already know them), then you'll find it pretty straightforward.

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    I suggest you learn HTML, CSS and JS first then move to php

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    Default Re: Is PHP hard to learn for a newbie ?

    C isn't much harder than php. Php is based on C. Thr question is what you want to make. Do you want a web app or desktop app? A web bot / scraper or a game? Or a Facebook clone?

    Your language is dictated by your end product. If you want to make desktop apps php is useless.

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    OP only you will be able to answer your own question.

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    Default Re: Is PHP hard to learn for a newbie ?

    I did a years course in web dev and after it I importeda book in php - I learnt more in one month that in the entire course.

    Can't post links so Google it: Foundation PHP: Books and Tutorials by David Powers

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    Learning PHP is much more easier than learning a "real" programming language. Having said that, I think you should really start off with C. Learning C isn't too tough if you follow the right guide. I learned C in my childhood by reading Byron Gottfried's programming in C. This book is example oriented and pretty easy to follow.

    Once you have the basic knowledge of C, move on to some object oriented programming by learning C++. You don't need to get killed. Just make sure you have the basic concepts.

    Once you learn both, you are free to learn any language you want to. Of-course you can skip what I suggested, but you will always be an amateur programmer if you don't know your basics

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    It's not that difficult. When i started there weren't so many guides and tutorials i remember i started with http://www.tizag.com/ . Now you can find free tutorials everywhere. In my case i learned a lot faster watching video tuts from Lynda.com and YT.

    But like many other have already said you should start with HTML/CSS and JS(jQuery)

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    Default Re: Is PHP hard to learn for a newbie ?

    Here is a list of my favourite PHP books:
    Learning PHP, MySQL, and JavaScript: A Step-by-Step Guide to Creating Dynamic Websites. Author: Robin Nixon
    PHP: A Beginner's Guide. Author: Vikram Vaswani
    Learning PHP 5. Author: David Sklar
    Build Your Own Database Driven Web Site Using PHP & MySQL. Author: Kevin Yank
    PHP Object - Oriented Solutions. Author: David Powers

    Hope it helps!

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    First try to Learn html and css. php is html embedded language.It is not difficult.In all programming Language PHP is easy as compare to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldentreasure View Post
    First try to Learn html and css. php is html embedded language.It is not difficult.In all programming Language PHP is easy as compare to others.
    He has probably mastered it by now

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    I have learned php/mysql by myself and not at school. The problem with php is that you need know mysql which is database and is complicated to use if you don't know the database method (learn in school). You need to know too HTML5 and CSS because PHP output html5 and css too.

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    I'm a media development student and I say:

    - First learn HTML5 and CSS3
    - Then learn PHP & MySQL
    - After that you can learn JavaScript, jQuery and things like that.

    Tip: Use websites like w3schools and stackoverflow if you're stuck.

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    if he starts with html it would probably be easier to go on with javascript and THEN go to PHP and not the wayback, imho

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    Guys, this thread is more then 2 years old.

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    Since the original developer posted it almost 2 year back and there are many answers already I trust its not relevant for him any more, but adding my two cents.

    For any newbie if s/he wants to learn programming should starts with C. Once you know C well its easier to pick any other language.
    Then for web based language, first understand how website works and what are the protocols.
    Then it would be handy to learn HTML, Javascript and CSS, get your hands dirty with creating few HTML only web pages with use of JS and CSS.
    Then you pic a language of choice to program and a database to store your data.

    Hope this helps

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    PHP is easy to learn but not easy to master. Many people start with PHP on their own and become one of the 99% who are terrible php scripters. If you don't have a job in PHP application programming then I would strongly encourage you to become part of a PHP community in order to not become one of these classic terrible PHP programmers. Check out symfony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mantic0re View Post
    PHP is easy to learn but not easy to master. Many people start with PHP on their own and become one of the 99% who are terrible php scripters. If you don't have a job in PHP application programming then I would strongly encourage you to become part of a PHP community in order to not become one of these classic terrible PHP programmers. Check out symfony.
    Agree to the most part, but symphony sucks. Better go for Laravel/ yii 2.x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogol View Post
    Agree to the most part, but symphony sucks. Better go for Laravel/ yii 2.x
    There's a reason why most production environments use symfony and not Laravel.

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    I also wanted to start learning php but I'm not sure if it would be better to learn javascript first.I know a little bit of C and HTML and CSS and Wordpress but didn't learned HTML5 and CSS3 yet.What would you suggest to learn first?

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    Php is going to open up a lot more flexibility with wordpress (among other things) and I highly suggest learning it.
    Learn all 4 at once and as a bonus, any time you're turning to javascript you should try to find a way to do it with CSS first.
    Javascript is really overused by bad devs and you're trying to be a good one right?

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    PHP is hard but not much harder.
    You can learn PHP by using this language daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by accerman View Post
    PHP is hard but not much harder.
    You can learn PHP by using this language daily.
    I learned PHP when i was about 12, so it can't be that hard to learn i was still a little derp. What is nice about PHP is that it's not only CGI but can also supports CLI, plus it is cross platform

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    as for me, this algorithm works for any language/tool i want to study:
    -choose a project which you want to make by using this language/tool
    -study the project's architecture -> usages of your language/tool in project -> go deeper into the usages -> you already get knowledge of the language

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    I've started it, though i'm late but will give atleast a try. So don't think you can't but yes you can! (y)

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    If you want to write desktop software, learn C. If you don't have a lot of programming experience, I would recommend learning HTML and CSS, then leaning PHP. Though there's a lot you need to know to make any money at coding.

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    codecademy is good place to start but You must learn HTML first, than PHP

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    Nothing is hard to learn, if you give proper dedication to it.

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