Any free bids still ?

I'll join under someone with some free bids.

Originally Posted by sabbott424

The payment options for buying sample bids are so inconvenient...

Is there anyway I can use my credit card or PayPal to purchase bids?

I have to admit, since they've done away with DIRECT cc payments for bid purchases, it isn't QUITE as convenient. However, even with the change, you're only one extra step removed from the old way...you can fund your SolidTrustPay account with cc, then purchase your bids.

From what I understand, this change became necessary because cc scammers were causing problems. These 3rd party "eWallet" companies like SolidTrustPay and AlertPay have measures in place to catch the illegitimate purchases.

Here is a company webinar that gives the details: https://www.zeekrewards.com/CC/Leade...all_111208.mp3

so this is the Amway of IM? I'll check it out but it seems to me that this as with anything online, is all about the traffic. So when I see "I'm killing it" I pause. that is not to say you are not, my pause is more about my own skill level driving traffic.

Originally Posted by astbnboy

so this is the Amway of IM? I'll check it out but it seems to me that this as with anything online, is all about the traffic. So when I see "I'm killing it" I pause. that is not to say you are not, my pause is more about my own skill level driving traffic.

ZR is a bit different (well...maybe more than a bit different) than any IM venture than you'll see on this forum. The company calls it "Exact Method Marketing". I've heard it also called "Collective Marketing". The idea is to get a LOT of people doing something simple and duplicatable, (ie posting a daily ad) and paying them for it. The interesting thing about this that differs from what we normally experience in IM, is that the basic way we are paid, the Retail Profit Pool, is not at all based our results, but on just performing an action...saturating the Net with our daily ads. While earning money from our recruting efforts, which involves traditional IM, is mainly just "icing on the cake"

I'd envite you to listen to the mp3 that I posted previously. It delves into this.

Hmm, I added my credit card to STP but when I go to pay for the bids, it tells me I do not ave enough funds...

Can anyone help me?

Originally Posted by ch8878

Any free bids still ?

I'll join under someone with some free bids.

I have some free bids if you are interested.

I ran across this today. It is a ranking of the top MLM companies, based on various criteria. Wanna guess who is first for the month of December? Read about it here.

shelterman, can you message me?

Starting to understand how this system works. It's one of the most unique and easiest ways to make money. Thank you for all the help everyone. I will be here to help the new comers as well.

Since some of my downline have sent me questions regarding how they can pay for VIP Bids now that the cc option has been removed, I thought I'd post this conference call discussing ZR's close association with Solid Trust Pay. STP is a major player in the Internet "eWallet" field. I've used them myself several times for things other than ZR.

ZR was having major problems with cc scammers, STP has, of course, safeguards in place to catch the scammers before they cause problems. The only difference I notice when using STP (which the last time was about 2 weeks ago), is that you have to wait 24hrs before your cc payment clears. Another plus with STP is that they are coming out with a Debit Card next month which will make our ZR withdrawals a breeze.

Anyway, here is the webinar.

What got me involved in this company was plain and simple the fact that I didn't have to get others involved. I had ZERO interest in that. Now, the 2 minute a day ad deal is a whole other story. The easiest thing I have ever done to make money. And the fact that I cannot find one person on the entire web who has lost money on this. Isn't that amazing in itself? Wonderful company to be a part of.

PM me for any questions you may have and I will do my best to help/guide you.

I just got this off of ZeekRewards News:

"Holidays Heads Up:
We are closed for EVERYTHING (auctions included) starting at Friday 5pm eastern on December 23rd 2011 thru Monday morning 8am on the 26th for auctions, affiliate services, etc...to give the Zeek corp team some family time. We will be closed again on Saturday December 31st (New Years Eve) thru New Years Day...re-opening Monday Janurary 2nd at 8 am eastern. All web-based functions will continue to run along with the Retail Profit Pool, qualifier and daily awards...so yes...if you want awards you will still need to place your ads!"

We're representing a GREAT company folks...the company's down for the holidays and we STILL get paid!

Hi guys .

I arrived at this forum yesterday , because i was looking for a forum where zeekrewards was discussed in a good manner . And i found it here . Been reading this thread twice , and i really like what i found here . You guys are so helpfull to everybody .

I'm a member of zeekrewards on my second week , and all i found about the company is good . So good that i want to share it with others . But i'm totally blank about how to promote it to others . So if anybody would share some hints and help me out on this part , i would be forever greatfull .

Merry christmas from Norway , may you and your loved ones be blessed .

Your friend RN

Originally Posted by Symbio

Hi guys .

I arrived at this forum yesterday , because i was looking for a forum where zeekrewards was discussed in a good manner . And i found it here . Been reading this thread twice , and i really like what i found here . You guys are so helpfull to everybody .

I'm a member of zeekrewards on my second week , and all i found about the company is good . So good that i want to share it with others . But i'm totally blank about how to promote it to others . So if anybody would share some hints and help me out on this part , i would be forever greatfull .

Merry christmas from Norway , may you and your loved ones be blessed .

Your friend RN

Welcome to our thread Symbio!

I agree. This is a good company and I look forward to it making 2012 a most prosperous year for all of us!

Probably the best way to share it is to promote it on some of the social networks like Facebook and Twitter. Twitter has probably been the best for me as I can automate it...just don't overdo it

Merry Christmas from the great Show Me State of Missouri (US)!!

Originally Posted by shelterman

Welcome to our thread Symbio!

I agree. This is a good company and I look forward to it making 2012 a most prosperous year for all of us!

Probably the best way to share it is to promote it on some of the social networks like Facebook and Twitter. Twitter has probably been the best for me as I can automate it...just don't overdo it

Merry Christmas from the great Show Me State of Missouri (US)!!

Thanks for the welcome and the hints . I'm on facebook but not Twitter . Do you recommend me advertise it to all my friends on facebook , all 1100 of them ? I guess thats worth a try . I guess i would need to sign up for the "You get paid to advertise" sales letter , so it might explain it for me ? Have you got good experience with it ?

Also got very interrested in the program Banners Broker you talked about earlier in this thread . I went to it , but it says it opens in about 9 days . Would love to have your reflink , so i could join under you in it . If you may , could you please briefly explain it here or PM . I have under 15 post , so i will not be able to pm you back . Please add your email for correspondance

Thanks in advance for your time and efforts , appreciate it ALOT .

Originally Posted by Symbio

Thanks for the welcome and the hints . I'm on facebook but not Twitter . Do you recommend me advertise it to all my friends on facebook , all 1100 of them ? I guess thats worth a try . I guess i would need to sign up for the "You get paid to advertise" sales letter , so it might explain it for me ? Have you got good experience with it ?

Also got very interrested in the program Banners Broker you talked about earlier in this thread . I went to it , but it says it opens in about 9 days . Would love to have your reflink , so i could join under you in it . If you may , could you please briefly explain it here or PM . I have under 15 post , so i will not be able to pm you back . Please add your email for correspondance

Thanks in advance for your time and efforts , appreciate it ALOT .

What I do is created a Zeekler oriented Facebook Fan Page and occasionally share a link (maybe once a week) to my FB friends from my Fan Page. I don't post my daily ad to my personal FB page, just to my fan page, which has 300+ fans so the daily Fan Page ads are getting some exposure I guess. I also drive some of my Twitter traffic to the Fan Page...Seems to be working for me.

Re: Banners Broker...yes, they are in the process of moving to a different site and converting everything to a new system called BBv2. I went ahead and signed up for the BBv2 site so I have to wait till they come back up. I've got a couple of others interested in this too, but I'd suggest you wait to see how things go for me before you actually put any money into it. You are welcome to sign under me as a free member if you want, but it really doesn't benefit you much till they come back up at the first of the year. What I like about it is that it seems to be a dove-tail with ZR in that we get to post our own ads PLUS draw a commission from them at the same time. I'll post more about it in the future when I get more experience with it.

I'll pm you my email.

This may have been answered, long thread, and believe this will be my 15 post so can't pm it (good for anyone else to see though).

Basically, sign up as free member...

To get points as a free member, you need to sign up retail, affiliate, or purchases them. Or can the sponsor give some to start with?

If there is a starting pool, could just post an ad per day, to grow the pool, it would be small and after 90 days, the pool would grow slower (since you're losing points, but since it compounds it would still be growing, just very slowly?).

But signing up retail is also ads to your pool, and every "penny" spent on the site they give you, you get 0.65 of? Or just the first purchase someone gives you?

Because, I've actually been interested in trying to sign up members to a penny auction site with a twist on a thread I saw here (sure some of you know which one). I was going to do this on an affiliate network, but doing with ZR or Zeekler (lol sorry), my commission could just go in the pool and grow daily?

Last question, the pool, cashing out comes from the pool? So if you don't cash out in 90 days, you lose some money or does it automatically cash out for you then? Basically, if you do a full cash out, the $600 a day I see someone mention, goes to $0?

Thanks.

http://zeekler.com/auctioninfo.asp?a...1166&UserName=

Auction for $75 that ended in $101.35. The winner lost money. Why would an auction end above the cash amount???

Originally Posted by Stupid Smurf

This may have been answered, long thread, and believe this will be my 15 post so can't pm it (good for anyone else to see though).

Basically, sign up as free member...

To get points as a free member, you need to sign up retail, affiliate, or purchases them. Or can the sponsor give some to start with?

If there is a starting pool, could just post an ad per day, to grow the pool, it would be small and after 90 days, the pool would grow slower (since you're losing points, but since it compounds it would still be growing, just very slowly?).

But signing up retail is also ads to your pool, and every "penny" spent on the site they give you, you get 0.65 of? Or just the first purchase someone gives you?

Because, I've actually been interested in trying to sign up members to a penny auction site with a twist on a thread I saw here (sure some of you know which one). I was going to do this on an affiliate network, but doing with ZR or Zeekler (lol sorry), my commission could just go in the pool and grow daily?

Last question, the pool, cashing out comes from the pool? So if you don't cash out in 90 days, you lose some money or does it automatically cash out for you then? Basically, if you do a full cash out, the $600 a day I see someone mention, goes to $0?

Thanks.

Lots of stuff to answer...I'll hit some basic concepts that you need to understand, then you need to watch some videos for the rest. It is VERY difficult to make ZR work as a free member. You need to be AT LEAST a Silver and also buy some VIP bids.

The bids that your sponsor gives you CAN ONLY be used in the auction. They can't be used as VIP Bids. You have to purchase your own VIP Bids.

To cash out you have to change settings in your back office to let your VIP points go to cash instead of repurchasing bids...it's very easy, but hard to envision without actually seeing it done.

Originally Posted by shelterman

Lots of stuff to answer...I'll hit some basic concepts that you need to understand, then you need to watch some videos for the rest. It is VERY difficult to make ZR work as a free member. You need to be AT LEAST a Silver and also buy some VIP bids.

The bids that your sponsor gives you CAN ONLY be used in the auction. They can't be used as VIP Bids. You have to purchase your own VIP Bids.

To cash out you have to change settings in your back office to let your VIP points go to cash instead of repurchasing bids...it's very easy, but hard to envision without actually seeing it done.

Yeah, sorry. If some videos can answer that, I'd love to be pointed to them. I hate watch video and prefer reading, because most "info" videos take much longer than a webpage does.

But my main question was on the affiliate program was the auction sites, that's the main thing I want to get in to and if doing it with Zeekler would be better than a network (since more options later on?), I'd sign up.

I do see how having free bids to give could help though.

Originally Posted by Stupid Smurf

But my main question was on the affiliate program was the auction sites, that's the main thing I want to get in to and if doing it with Zeekler would be better than a network (since more options later on?), I'd sign up.

Not sure what you mean here...if you are asking would it be better to just be an affiliate with Zeekler vs. an affiliate with Zeek Rewards, then my answer is that there is only one way to be an affiliate...which is to be an affiliate with Zeek Rewards. Some of the others may have other imput on this, but I'd say if your preference is to earn straight commission as an affiliate from a Penny Auction site and NOT be a part of a network marketing opportunity, ZR probably isin't for you. For one thing, it's gonna be very difficult to get retail customers with Zeekler as a free member where you can't give any free bids to those prospects. Think about it, if someone trys to get you to place bids at a penny auction site that you've never heard of, what is the first thing you'd probably do?...you'd probably do a Google search for Zeekler Penny Auction or something similar. And what are you going to see? Probably no less than 2-3 affiliates offering 250-500 free bids (soon to be a max of 1000 for us Diamonds). There's no way you can compete with that.

Now, there is NOTHING wrong with being a free member, in fact, if you are unsure if ZR is for you and want to take a closer look at it before putting money into it, it may be a wise choice. However, I wouldn't recommend being a free affiliate and remaining active over 60 days without upgrading to a Prefered Member.

I've been reading up on zeekrewards for the past day now and have been very interested in their scheme. It looks very profitable but before joining I have some doubts.

1) If I register for a Silver which is $10/month. Can I cancel my subscription with the company?

2) I know that I need to join a "sponsor" before joining but what are the advantages of joining a higher ranked Zeek-er compared to a lower ranked one with less people below him/her.

3) Still confused about how the bids and cashing out $ works but if anyone is kind enough to teach me I will be most happy to learn but in the mean time, more research !

Cheers!

Originally Posted by akazzz

I've been reading up on zeekrewards for the past day now and have been very interested in their scheme. It looks very profitable but before joining I have some doubts.

1) If I register for a Silver which is $10/month. Can I cancel my subscription with the company?

2) I know that I need to join a "sponsor" before joining but what are the advantages of joining a higher ranked Zeek-er compared to a lower ranked one with less people below him/her.

3) Still confused about how the bids and cashing out $ works but if anyone is kind enough to teach me I will be most happy to learn but in the mean time, more research !

Cheers!

Just by using the term "scheme" .. I would personally rather see you not join.
Also , you are asking about how to quit before you even start ... Just not a good match for you.

Originally Posted by akazzz

1) If I register for a Silver which is $10/month. Can I cancel my subscription with the company?

Yes. You can cancel at any time.

An interesting thing about the frequency of cancellations that I've noticed in my almost 4 months with ZR...some may not believe this, but of all my signups so far with ZR, I have had ZERO cancellations of any Preferred Subscribers (signups that are Silver, Gold or Diamond). I have had a couple of Free Subscribers cancel, but none that have paid money into ZR. With that being said, I LOOK for a few to cancel as I have a few that are paying their subscription, that have only posted a few ads or even ZERO ads...can't quite figure that out...but NONE of the ones that are actively posting their ads have dropped. That should tell you something about ZR. The ACTIVE subscribers see a daily increase in their account and their trust in ZR grows daily.

Originally Posted by akazzz

2) I know that I need to join a "sponsor" before joining but what are the advantages of joining a higher ranked Zeek-er compared to a lower ranked one with less people below him/her.

In terms of "trickle down" placing people under you, joining directly under one of the "ZR Gurus" in my opinion means very little really. Example...I am directly sponsored by a "ZR Guru" with largest team in all of ZR and I haven't noticed ANYONE placed under me thru his recruting efforts. I'm not faulting him as he really has no control over placement, it's just that my place in his downline is so far down that I'll get very few placements under me thru his direct efforts.

In terms of support, well, I get numorous questions sent to me from my downline in a day and it takes a significant amount of time for me to answer them, can only imagine the number of questions MY sponsor gets in a day....would you expect personal service from a sponsor that receives a dozen emails or phone calls a day or one who receives 10-20X that?

Originally Posted by akazzz

3) Still confused about how the bids and cashing out $ works but if anyone is kind enough to teach me I will be most happy to learn but in the mean time, more research !

If you haven't already, check this video out: http://youtu.be/YJorZSX9Ru4
...I know, I know...he's one of the ZR Gurus. But, it is still good

I have read this entire thread and watched some of the videos that were posted, and it has definitely piqued my interest.

I am pretty sure that I have a firm grasp on how the affiliate side of this business works, but I do have one question. In your experience so far with this business, have you ever experienced a day where you didn't make anything from the daily profit share?

I ask this because I am really wondering why anyone would want to participate in a penny auction. I will use the following auction as an example:

I was going to post a link to the auction but it wouldn't let me.

The auction was for a Kindle Touch.

Retail Value: $99.00
End Price: $44.18
--------------------
Savings: $54.82

For any customer viewing this page, they would definitely want to jump in on this to save some money. But once you understand how this works you will most likely not want to consider doing so.

As you can see from this auction the winning bid was for $44.18, which means it took 4418 bids to win this auction. And from what I've read a bid cost $0.65 (correct me if I'm wrong).

4418 * 0.65 = $2871.70
$2871.70 - $99.00 = $2772.70

Just subtract the cost of the item and as you can see this is a really good profit for the company.

Now this is what makes me question this business model. If you see on the auction page the winner won with 411 bids. If you do the math, you will see that they spent way too much for that item.

411 * 0.65 = $267.15

Who in their right mind would spend that much to win an item valued at $99.00?

Now, I understand that some customers are given free bids when they join as an incentive (which are paid for by the affiliate so that they can get points to earn from the daily profit share). But once they realize how many bids it will take to win and do the math, I don't expect them to become return customers. Unless they are stupid and keep getting scammed and losing money.

From what I can tell by the auction above, the winning bidder either had: a lot of free bids; is stupid; or it is someone from the company bidding so they can win the bid and not have to buy or ship the item. I am not saying this is all true but it is the only options that make sense to me.

In my opinion, a business like this would need too have a lot of repeat customers to sustain itself. This is pretty much true for most businesses, and I don't really see why customers would continue to buy bids knowing they are actually losing money.

Now I am not here to be negative, and I look forward to being corrected as this does sound like an interesting business to join.

Originally Posted by shelterman

Not sure what you mean here...if you are asking would it be better to just be an affiliate with Zeekler vs. an affiliate with Zeek Rewards, then my answer is that there is only one way to be an affiliate...which is to be an affiliate with Zeek Rewards. Some of the others may have other imput on this, but I'd say if your preference is to earn straight commission as an affiliate from a Penny Auction site and NOT be a part of a network marketing opportunity, ZR probably isin't for you. For one thing, it's gonna be very difficult to get retail customers with Zeekler as a free member where you can't give any free bids to those prospects. Think about it, if someone trys to get you to place bids at a penny auction site that you've never heard of, what is the first thing you'd probably do?...you'd probably do a Google search for Zeekler Penny Auction or something similar. And what are you going to see? Probably no less than 2-3 affiliates offering 250-500 free bids (soon to be a max of 1000 for us Diamonds). There's no way you can compete with that.

Now, there is NOTHING wrong with being a free member, in fact, if you are unsure if ZR is for you and want to take a closer look at it before putting money into it, it may be a wise choice. However, I wouldn't recommend being a free affiliate and remaining active over 60 days without upgrading to a Prefered Member.

Gotcha. I was thinking of being purely an affiliate for a penny auction site. But, I am interested in ZR now. So I was thinking, going with being an affiliate for ZR to promote the penny auction for now (while posting an ad daily) and in the future get more in to the other side of the business.

The method I wanted to use, may prevent that type of loss, though could work better by having the free bids to give. Right now my time ans resources are mostly focused on some other projects, hence to start, I was going to do the affiliate side of it.

Within the last 19 days, my 150 bonus points have grown to 196 points. On workdays, daily growth is close to 2%, during the weekend it's 0.9%. I don't know if fewer people use the site on the weekend or if they have fewer auctions. In any way, I hope they fix that in the future.

The historical growth of the company is 1.74%. To give you all an idea of what that means, I attached a graph I calculated via a small program that I wrote in Wolfram Mathematica. These graphs represent VIP points that grow from the bonus points alone. Because of the weekends, your real earnings will be a bit lower than that.

Unfortunately, the uploaded version of this image is of rather bad quality, but that's the forum's fault

Originally Posted by hawynstud

From what I can tell by the auction above, the winning bidder either had: a lot of free bids; is stupid; or it is someone from the company bidding so they can win the bid and not have to buy or ship the item. I am not saying this is all true but it is the only options that make sense to me.

LOL..Dr Spock would certainly certainly agree with this statement! (sorry hawynstud, I'm a longtime Star Trek fan).

Since when did a business or any sort of pleasurable human activity for that matter have to appeal to our logic? Most of what you say is entirely correct, except for the scam statement...I don't think any of the auctions are hiding the way that they make their money (except for those that artificially run up the bids). And there is no doubt about it, these type of auctions make a LOT of profit, which as a "dyed in the wool" capitalist, I certainly have no problem with honest profit.

I'm not sure why you think that once everyone figures out what's going on the penny auction sites will all go belly up. I think most everyone that has participated in any penny auction will admit there is a bit of excitement and anticipation while bidding. Don't you think people will pay for that? I'm not saying that penny auctions are gambling, because they are NOT, but I WILL admit that they probably appeal to the same psychological aspect of human nature as gambling.

If it was pure logic that dictated people's purchases, I'm afraid Los Vegas would be a ghost town and Walmart Supercenters would be called Walmart Corner Shops.

Another misconception is that EVERYONE loses money. Believe me, just like normal auctions, there is a strategy to bidding at penny auctions. There are a few people who know what to bid on, when to bid on it, and HOW to bid on the items...they are driven by PURE LOGIC...LOL...Did I just contradict myself?

Originally Posted by shelterman

Another misconception is that EVERYONE loses money. Believe me, just like normal auctions, there is a strategy to bidding at penny auctions. There are a few people who know what to bid on, when to bid on it, and HOW to bid on the items...they are driven by PURE LOGIC...LOL...Did I just contradict myself?

Haha.. I kinda would like to get free bids now to try it out. Good sales pitch. When I have a chance, I might even research a bit to see what's the best way to try and win auctions.

And I agree completely with you. If you think logically about it, it doesn't make sense. But when it comes to human psychology, logic is the first thing to go. And that's exactly what we as marketers, want.

Shelterman,

You make some very good points. I did have one question that was not answered and was wondering if you could answer it. Have you experienced days where there was no profit from the daily profit share?

Just wanted to add that I did find a bunch of auctions where people got a good deal. I had only viewed the first one, so I should have checked out a few more before making my post.

shelterman pm me your link...if I join it will definitely be under you. Thanks for your input.

Originally Posted by hawynstud

I did have one question that was not answered and was wondering if you could answer it. Have you experienced days where there was no profit from the daily profit share?

Actually that isn't as easy a question to answer as you might think.

If you mean was there a day that the daily percentage dropped to zero? No. I haven't. However, and I hate to bring this up as it will be confusing to those unfamiliar with how ZR works, but to answer this question honestly I have to...if a member has no referrals at all and is receiving no other income into his/her account other than pure profit share, the daily percentage only has to drop to about .8% or so before there ceases to be a profit. The this is due to the 90 day retirement of VIP points. This will of course vary from account to account as everyone's account is different because everyone's downline is different.

I just bring this up to illustrate that that there isn't a cut and dry answer for that question.

Even with a bit more than .8%, it's not profitable. That's why the weekend really ruins a lot of it. If every day were 1.9% like the weekdays, zeek would be an absolute gold mine. If you put in 1000$ on the first day and let it grow, and after 120 days you start to take out 10% of our daily profit you make 4-8$ a day. By the end of the year, it's 10-20$ a day. I mean hey, that's not bad, and you will have your money back by then and are in profit - and after 4 years at the same percentage, you'll make 1000 a day. But man, you could have way over a 100 a day after the first year if they'd fix the weekend.

I'm not sure what you mean by "fix the weekend". While I'm certainly not privy to the ZR Retail Profit Pool algorithm, they tell us that it is based on a percentage of daily profit that the company earns on any given day. Assuming this is true, I'm sure their profit is influenced by the number of auctions scheduled for the day and the bidding activity on the items (remember, the more bidders bidding on an item the more money Zeekler makes).

I guess what I'm saying is that there may not be anything to really "fix" about the weekend. It always has been and ALWAYS WILL be less profitable than the weekdays merely due to societal aspects...people's habits and schedules are different on weekends, hence less time to sit at their computer bidding at the Zeekler auction

Something else that you may be overlooking, just due to your relative newness to ZR, is that the daily percentages AS A WHOLE have increased pretty significantly over the last year...even the last few months. An increase in the the daily average would have the same effect to our individual profit as just increasing the weekend percentage wouldn't it?

These are just things maybe we should consider.

Hi again .

Does anyone have access to a spreadsheet , would love to know how much $1k would be after 180 days at 100% repurchase ?

Thanks in advance , appreciate it alot .

Originally Posted by Symbio

Hi again .

Does anyone have access to a spreadsheet , would love to know how much $1k would be after 180 days at 100% repurchase ?

Thanks in advance , appreciate it alot .

Silver Subscription: $5814

Gold Subscription: $6352

Diamond Subscription: $6411

I would've posted screenshots, but ZR is looking down on that...too bad, it really helps one in the understanding of some of the more difficult to understand aspects of the RPP. At least it does for me.

Hi Symbio,

If the daily percentage were to remain the way it is now, and assuming you start as a Gold member, those 1k turn into 5949 after 180 days. However, those are points, not dollars. You can't get them out of your account. You can only take x percent out of your daily profit share. Those 5949 points grow by 113 to day 181, so if you'd take out 100% of that, you'd have 181$ that day. Taking the full 100% is inadvisable, though, because of the 90 day rule. ~75 points expire that day, so your points would decrease. The best thing to do is to take out a small percentage each day, like 10% or so, and let the rest sit.

Originally Posted by shelterman

Silver Subscription: $5814

Gold Subscription: $6352

Diamond Subscription: $6411

Whoa. Okay, next post says that isn't real money.

If I understand it currently, lets assume you are making 1.1% daily profit share, at $6411, you only get $70 to reinvest or you can some of it out?

Okay, my math seems bad and nothing like Bariaska's. What would be a safe assumed number for the daily profit share?

Originally Posted by shelterman

I'm not sure what you mean by "fix the weekend". While I'm certainly not privy to the ZR Retail Profit Pool algorithm, they tell us that it is based on a percentage of daily profit that the company earns on any given day. Assuming this is true, I'm sure their profit is influenced by the number of auctions scheduled for the day and the bidding activity on the items (remember, the more bidders bidding on an item the more money Zeekler makes).

I guess what I'm saying is that there may not be anything to really "fix" about the weekend. It always has been and ALWAYS WILL be less profitable than the weekdays merely due to societal aspects...people's habits and schedules are different on weekends, hence less time to sit at their computer bidding at the Zeekler auction

Something else that you may be overlooking, just due to your relative newness to ZR, is that the daily percentages AS A WHOLE have increased pretty significantly over the last year...even the last few months. An increase in the the daily average would have the same effect to our individual profit as just increasing the weekend percentage wouldn't it?

These are just things maybe we should consider.

It's just that I wish they'd do something to get more out of the weekends. I'm not sure if there are fewer people or fewer auctions. You'd think people had more time on the weekends. Well, I guess that's just me.

I'm glad to hear it has increased noticeably. Although that's actually quite obvious, since Zeekler has been exploding in popularity. I hope to see a further increase and that the level never drops. As I'm just beginning, I don't have much that I can put in, so it'll be a while until something significant comes flying back at me. And I have little hope in terms of referrals.

Correct me if I'm wrong...the more people that join zeek rewards the less % daily interest for everyone? shelterman I PMed you btw.

how i can signup with them? please help

Originally Posted by Stupid Smurf

Whoa. Okay, next post says that isn't real money.

If I understand it currently, lets assume you are making 1.1% daily profit share, at $6411, you only get $70 to reinvest or you can some of it out?

Okay, my math seems bad and nothing like Bariaska's. What would be a safe assumed number for the daily profit share?

at that point, I will be taking out 10% and let the rest sit, I think. Remember, the profit you make on one day will expire 90 days later. So those 70$ vanish from your account on day 270. This is why you shouldn't take out much. It's really 70 minus the points that expire that day, see? Besides, you want it to grow. After 4 years, you will be making around 1000$ a day by taking 10% out. That is if the percentage doesn't change from today, of course. Go into this as a long term thing, not something quick. You will have taken out around a quarter million after those 4 years. And that's without referrals, of course.

By the way, if you join under me, you'll be part of one of the biggest teams and get all the tools and everything you need

Dawn just announced today that we will soon be receiving free bids to use in the Zeekler auctions with our monthly subscription payments. These are NOT VIP Sample Bids that go into your VIP Points Balance. These are the $1 VIP Bids (% signs) to be used in the Zeekler auctions only. We cannot give these bids away. We can only use them ourselves.

Here's the breakdown:

Silver--> 20 Zeekler VIP Auction Bids monthly
Gold--> 100 Zeekler VIP Auction Bids monthly
Diamond-->250 Zeekler VIP Auction Bids monthly

The date of implementation will be announced as soon as the coding is complete. Please make sure you are subscribed to ZeekRewardsNews.

ZeekRewards just keeps getting better and better!

Silver is $10 a month, so you'd be getting more bids than you could buy for $10 as a retail merchant? Same with the other two levels?

Originally Posted by Stupid Smurf

Silver is $10 a month, so you'd be getting more bids than you could buy for $10 as a retail merchant? Same with the other two levels?

The bids referred to in my above post are strictly a perk for preferred subscribers. The bids can't be used for any other purpose than bidding on items that WE want to purchase...they're a gift to us.

Also, just to be clear, the monthly subscription on each level DOES NOT purchase VIP bids. In other words, the $10 monthly subcription for Silver doesn't purchase $10 in VIP Bids for that month. To purchase VIP Bids, you have to purchase them separately.

I KNOW this can be confusing at first...it was for me too. Sometimes when I throw this information out, I forget that we all are not on the same level of understanding.

Maybe I wasn't clear, but that's not what I was asking.

A silver member will get 20 free bids to use in auction. Silver membership is $10 a dollar. 20 bids, if paid for, would cost more than $10, correct?

That was the question.