Hello, i'm bnsly. Not so much a newbie but not so much a pro. Anyways, I really like offline because of fast payments and direct to paypal, check, bank,etc. Not only that it is possibly huge payments for minor work. So, I already went ahead and jumped into offline about a week ago. Not really in it yet but yeah.

So, what I have already done is start on this method :

Code:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/offline-marketing/155794-guaranteed-10k-month-online-offline-hybrid-method.html

Sounded simple enough so I bought 4 domains for it and started doing some minor SEO work for one. We'll see where that gets us later because ranking takes time.

In the mean time, i've begun working on building mobile sites. I have read a WSO and i've been told mobile sites are big now. I'm hardly fluent in any coding language so i'll use some custom builder or maybe buy a theme.

You can find that WSO here :

Code:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/396447-get-wso-523386-instant-offline-avalanche-attn-offline-marketer-stop-what-you-doing.html

Big ups to Solar for the share.

So here goes my Day 1

I've just started working late at night and have gotten e-mails together. I'm contacting by e-mail because i'm too scared to cold call. I don't want to get into why but e-mail does bring in some responses so i'll just have to scale up the e-mailing to get more responses. I've decided to get a pre-made theme and sort of resell it to a client, which i think works. All the themes look really sleek so i'm sure the design won't be a huge problem.

I've used mostly google places to get e-mails (visiting websites > contact us > if lucky get e-mail etc.) I'm trying my best to stay away from franchises and sites with already killer designs. My plan is to grab around 50 e-mails today and e-mail them tomorrow.


I hope you enjoy reading this as much as I enjoy working on it (hopefully).

EDIT: Oh and any tips/comments are welcomed. Oh if you say calling is better, I know.

You're off to a good start. Best of luck to you!

Originally Posted by KraftyKyle

You're off to a good start. Best of luck to you!

Thanks KraftyKyle. Appreciate the kind words.

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Also, i've just gathered 50 e-mails(literally), I have a lot to catch up on tomorrow, have to send these 50 and then gather another 50 and then send those 50 to get on track. If you're wondering about the site, it's been indexed. I wrote my own 200-300 word article on it and bought 500+ Social Bookmarks and 100 Blog comments as said in the thread. Well just the blog comments. I did some looking around and it's not even in the top 200? Haha, i'm sure I should wait. Anyways, that's it for me today .

good luck OP, also make sure that you drop into every conversation you can with friends/family/potential clients what you are offering

I am just starting off too and got my first offline client from a conversation in a bar

Best of luck to you! I recently moved to the offline game as well so I love reading these journals and I actually plan to make one after I have some results. I hope to hear nothing but success as you seem to be on a solid track for a solid start.

Thanks guys . I'm currently at school right now so i'm limited to what I can do. Also, if anyone has any good methods or WSO's they can link to, it wouldn't hurt to link it to me! I have a lot of extra time on my hands with waiting for SEO and just scraping and e-mailing. Let me know if you have a good method for me to do, more money doesn't hurt

I've been searching and I've found some stuff I want to try

Code:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/offline-marketing/389227-build-5-000-month-consulting-business.html

and also a method involving selling Google Plus business pages to businesses. Sell for maybe $50 hopefully get a response

Originally Posted by bnsly

I've been searching and I've found some stuff I want to try

Code:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/offline-marketing/389227-build-5-000-month-consulting-business.html

and also a method involving selling Google Plus business pages to businesses. Sell for maybe $50 hopefully get a response

I know you want to spread out and do a bunch of stuff all at once but i really think its a good idea to do ONE thing, get some results THEN add another if you want to.

Hope your emails go good today. Please dont forget this journal like so many others do, and keep us up to date on the good and the bad. It helps us and it helps you!

Good luck!

Originally Posted by Gwendoleea

I know you want to spread out and do a bunch of stuff all at once but i really think its a good idea to do ONE thing, get some results THEN add another if you want to.

Hope your emails go good today. Please dont forget this journal like so many others do, and keep us up to date on the good and the bad. It helps us and it helps you!

Good luck!

Yeah i know. That's what i do a lot ! I get distracted on one bigger method and seriously screw around etc. Yeah it's just a little plan for later. I've just started sending out e-mails and I have a lot of HW today so I won't be able to scrape more.


Quick Update: All e-mails have been sent! Waiting for responses now.

Congrats on taking action. That's the most important step. I'm trying to put together something similar. Working on a low cost introductory offer and hoping to backend some larger seo deals.

I think that happens to a lot of people here. What level of school are you in? I'm trailing behind you. Been looking up places for the last few hours. not alot have email addresses though which is disappointing and I am surprised at how many Places dont even have a website. Glad you found enough for a good start!

good luck mate! I've also jumped into the offline world, just keep moving forward.

Originally Posted by Gwendoleea

I think that happens to a lot of people here. What level of school are you in? I'm trailing behind you. Been looking up places for the last few hours. not alot have email addresses though which is disappointing and I am surprised at how many Places dont even have a website. Glad you found enough for a good start!

High School! And yes it's rough. Takes me a loooong time to get 50 e-mails. On the bright side, i've received 1 e-mail that wants to look at the demo (which is me iframing a live preview of a theme on themeforest) and one who asked a question. She seems interested.. I guess.

Anyways, i'm going to go iframe the theme on my site. Does anyone know if it's ok to like resell themeforest themes?

EDIT: I actually received 8-9 e-mails however 1 was an automated response 2 were real interested people and the rest were failure notices. Oh well. If I can close this one person, that's not bad I want a new laptop for skyrim!

@ Everyone else : Thank you! I appreciate the kind words.

I too am interested to see how this goes for you. You're doing well. Keep up the good work.

Thanks again guys. I checked my e-mails this money for any "I'm Sold!" e-mails but no responses. I sent them a demo with a live preview of the themeforest theme iframed so that the themeforest is nowhere to be seen. Then , since i couldn't wait for nameservers to allocate and buy a site, I used pastehtml and just pasted my html there. It worked perfect, I hope I can sell it to that one person who seemed REALLY interested. Here's how she responded.

"Henry, I'd love to see the demo and here more about the mobile site...sound good.
Thanks,
~~~ Name
~~~ Company
"

BTW, i'm not henry. Fake name. Anyways, i hope she'll respond by 6 PM like last time!

EDIT: Nothing new on site , SEO takes long. BMD gig done though. W8ing for results. By the way, no new e-mail from yesterday. E-mailing 50 today. Since i'm getting paid thru paypal. I'm moving to another state/ area.

Might take a while for everyone to read the emails.

Just for clarity, You are doing the mobile site thing now right?
and, instead of harvesting leads from manta, you used Google Places?

If so, how were you able to get the names of the owners or head person to address in your emails?

And instead of sending the potential buyer to the preview page provided by Duda..for the mobile site - you made your own site and iframed it there instead? Is that right?

Hope you get some more responses and looking forward to your further replies. have a great morning!

G.

Originally Posted by bnsly

Thanks again guys. I checked my e-mails this money for any "I'm Sold!" e-mails but no responses. I sent them a demo with a live preview of the themeforest theme iframed so that the themeforest is nowhere to be seen. Then , since i couldn't wait for nameservers to allocate and buy a site, I used pastehtml and just pasted my html there. It worked perfect, I hope I can sell it to that one person who seemed REALLY interested. Here's how she responded.

"Henry, I'd love to see the demo and here more about the mobile site...sound good.
Thanks,
~~~ Name
~~~ Company
"

BTW, i'm not henry. Fake name. Anyways, i hope she'll respond by 6 PM like last time!

EDIT: Nothing new on site , SEO takes long. BMD gig done though. W8ing for results. By the way, no new e-mail from yesterday. E-mailing 50 today. Since i'm getting paid thru paypal. I'm moving to another state/ area.

Originally Posted by Gwendoleea

Might take a while for everyone to read the emails.

Just for clarity, You are doing the mobile site thing now right?
and, instead of harvesting leads from manta, you used Google Places?

If so, how were you able to get the names of the owners or head person to address in your emails?

And instead of sending the potential buyer to the preview page provided by Duda..for the mobile site - you made your own site and iframed it there instead? Is that right?

Hope you get some more responses and looking forward to your further replies. have a great morning!

G.

Hi ,

Yes it was the mobile thing. Yeah I just used google places to get e-mails, places links to their website more often than manta but it usually doesn't have an e-mail. Most of the time the e-mails were not accompanied with names so I just put the store name "Hey John's Pizza". This time i got extremely lazy and put "Hey!". No I did not use duda this time. I was told by a friend that Duda is sort of bad, and I used Duda before with another person. This person had a site that looked like it came from 1999 and said that the Duda design was bad. So I stopped using Duda. What i'm using is a theme that is sold on

Code:

Themeforest.net

and just using the live preview. I'm sure it's legal to resell these themes once you buy it, well buy it once every time you resell I think. They carry many themes for mobile sites, and they're good and cheap!

Now i'm not 100% sure this is legal, i'm 90% sure it is. I mean it's basic re-selling , which is pretty much a huge rip off for them. Well, most mobile sites are anyways so I don't see an issue with that. If any body knows if this is illegal or something is wrong with it, let me know.

Yes I did iframe it, It's nothing fancy just a simple html <iframe> with the thing adjusted a bit so that only the phone shows. And thank you, good luck with you to. I'm not following the WSO 1 for 1, but i'm using the concept. Also, you can use manta it works well. When it links to site, but that's maybe like 40% of the time you'll actually get a site.

If anyone needs help iframing , I can give you some tips and pointers! It's pretty simple you just might need a pixel ruler lol (if you want to hide certain stuff like logo's etc)


UPDATE: Still no responses from my last post. I'm sure the interested people (which is like 1-2 people) have a designated response "time" if you will, that they respond to e-mails. They both responded around 6-7 PM PST So i'll post my next update at 8 PM . Thanks for all the support and I hope whoever is also taking a plunge into offline will succeed too!

EDIT: I took a look into the terms for buying my theme which is a very cheap mobile theme on themeforest, perfect for restaurants. Here's the terms :

Regular License Examples

The Regular License could be used for any of the following:
Single website (commercial, personal, or non-profit).
Single website for a client (commercial, personal, or non-profit).
Single intranet site project.

The regular license is 5 bucks and I'm using the single website for my client for commercial i believe? Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think this is legit.

Sigh, no responses. I'm an impatient person, but the person who seemed the most interested, replied withing 10 minutes of me first sending it. Now she doesn't respond. Oh well, I'll wait one more day. Maybe some more e-mails will help :P. I really want to automate this but, have to buy a program.

Just keep going! Dont give up! Try getting the owners email if u can, as I think you might be sending to more general emails and maybe not reaching as many 'buyers" as you should. at least thats my theory.

Originally Posted by Gwendoleea

Just keep going! Dont give up! Try getting the owners email if u can, as I think you might be sending to more general emails and maybe not reaching as many 'buyers" as you should. at least thats my theory.

Definitely, getting the owner's e-mail is rough. Usually it's those info@xxxx.com and stuff i'm e-mailing. How are you doing on it by the way?

Me, I'm still harvesting info. This Manta thing takes flocking forever! I have about 30 at the time of this writing (2:00pm MST) so today I am going to separate out the ones that I can email and the ones I can Facebook and the left overs that require a (middle of the night) phone message and do that. Then its back to harvesting. Im getting my 16yr son to help with it today as well. So hopefully I can ramp this up soon!

Originally Posted by Gwendoleea

Me, I'm still harvesting info. This Manta thing takes flocking forever! I have about 30 at the time of this writing (2:00pm MST) so today I am going to separate out the ones that I can email and the ones I can Facebook and the left overs that require a (middle of the night) phone message and do that. Then its back to harvesting. Im getting my 16yr son to help with it today as well. So hopefully I can ramp this up soon!

Well i'm not sure what i'm doing is technically working LOL. Right now, it's pretty slow. It's taking that lady forever to respond so I hope she responds today. If not then oh well, I can still wait. The e-book says it takes time for responses. I was lucky enough to get one so I guess it doesn't hurt to wait till the end of the week. I hate waiting.

Dont we all! esp when it comes to money. I was wondering. What did you use to send your emails with/from? Did you just send from a personal email, did you use a business website add (you@yourwebsite.com) or?

Originally Posted by Gwendoleea

Dont we all! esp when it comes to money. I was wondering. What did you use to send your emails with/from? Did you just send from a personal email, did you use a business website add (you@yourwebsite.com) or?

I used yahoo. Gmail banned me last time i think so I didn't use them, i'm not sure for you though but i just used yahoo.

Good luck to you, bnsly

The best advice I can give to you at this point in time is stop using emails. Ever day people get emails, trying to solicit them. If they make it past the users spam filter, and if they even get opened you still have a small chance of being taken as seriously as you want.

If you can't cold call, send a later, or show up and try and get some face time. You need to stand out to convert. If your approach is targeting clients (rather than advertising in order for them to find you) then you need to stand out of the fray.

So, Bnsly, how did this week go? Did you send out any more emails or get any more responses from the ones you originally did? So far it looks like you have sent out 50 emails and gotten one response. Is that right? thanks!

Hey man I've got a couple leads doing the same thing. I'm giving them the weekend, then I'm going to call them next week. I read about saying something like, "Is price the only thing keeping you from moving forward with our services, because I can work with you on that". Etc. I've got one warm lead that seems a little shy about getting past email, and when I contact them on the phone I'm going to make sure I emphasize that I'm not a salesperson, i'm just into the technology behind these business solutions, and I think my products speak for themselves. I sent a price sheet over email and haven't heard from since so I think I'm gonna call back and emphasize making a deal with them. Some of these people seem really interested then shy away, I don't get it.

I've been on but i haven't been posting. Apologies. I was on the brink of giving up but i didn't. Anyways, I think e-mail is literally the worst way of contact. I guess i should start cold calling now or sending post cards.. Really, i've changed my offline focus to the hybrid method for advertising dentists etc site.. Only problem is, I have literally no clue how to do SEO. So maybe an SEO specialist might wanna point me in the right direction. I have one currently but it's on Pg4 and it doesn't look like its moving. Should I continue with that, or should i move on and find another place. Any SEO specialists look at my keyword http://i.imgur.com/Pc9HK.jpg . Should i continue with that niche?

Code:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/offline-marketing/155794-guaranteed-10k-month-online-offline-hybrid-method.html

Method there. Anyways, I'm not sure if I should keep rolling. What should I buy? Onehourbacklinks? I've social bookmarked and that's about it, ranking 4th page. Let me know what I should buy, short on cash so I'm keeping a low budget.

This time im actually cold calling because I know the product i'm selling which is ad space! So whoever wants to give me tips on ranking, i'm ALL EARS! Trying to keep a small budget around 10-20 bucks to finish up the ranking but i might go 30 sorry i'm cheap. Comp is above or here

Code:

http://i.imgur.com/Pc9HK.jpg

Trying to rank this within a couple of weeks 1-2 at least. Need to get something ASAP! Or if you can rank it, i'll give you cut of the sale if any body wants to , kinda desperate to rank it ATM.


TLDR ; I believe Offline is pretty crappy with email. The interested lady has yet to respond back so I think she's done. Cold calling gives more faster repsonses. Also, i need help to rank my site with the competition above. You can be a good person and give me tips or some boosts (or rank it all) or you can work with me and we'll cut a share for the site once it ranks and we sell and advertising spot.

Last post for the night : Maybe instead of pre ranking it, I should say i own a domain and i'm good at SEO.. then with that they can pay me so I use that to rank it. NOt sure if thats a good idea because possibility of scam but... you don't know until you try huh.

On the average it takes 5 to 6 exposures to an advertising message before your target audience responds. You might want to set up a series of emails to send out to hammer home your message. You can add text messaging them to the arsenal if you've got the time and resources. You mentioned a mailer, yup that's another shot at them but it's not free but if you've got the funds it's a good medium. But you need to research each method and learn how to do it right, like writing emotional response ad copy for your mailer, etc.

Personally I wouldn't do the directory listing thing. I've ran across some of those on the first page and didn't see any business listed in the site which tells me the site owner was not able to get any takers. If I could get a site to rank on the first page, I'd try to sell it to one dentist, then sell the package of GPlace listing, monthly maintenance , etc. But that's just me, it might work for you or others, I'm not trying to talk you out of it, you need to make you own decision.

As for seo, look around here and learn how to do some free methods of ranking your site. I'd get the site to rank first before I'd try selling anybody anything on it.
GL to you.

by the way, you cant resell themeforest stuff...

Unless you have our prior written consent, you must not directly or indirectly license, sub-license, sell or resell or provide for free the Work or offer to do any of these things. All of these things are referred to as Resale.

but you can just create a themeforest account for each client and buy in their name and youre fine the blackhat way