Straight up question - Your local Hairdressers/Barbers, Plumber, Electrician wants a website. Using wordpress, how much would you charge them? Obviously you can make it look as decent as possible with relevant plugins, etc.

What would you charge for doin 'em a site?

Cheers

For basic site 5 page no special features id charge £300-£500

3-500 plus monthly reoccurring hosting.

Think of all the premium services you can upsell:
Social media marketing (fb/twitter etc..)
SEO
ORM

Charge for all of these, heavily.

I charge 750.00 USD when I build a WP site but that I only do it for a specific financial services industry.

10 pages, the usual plugins and some specialty stuff but nothing to wild.

Awesome stuff! Cheers guys. All i needed!

Seriously, how much time does it take to set this up? I'm no wordpress guru, but that seems a lot of money for a wordpress site.

Check my thread in the web dev section. A guy I know is paying $500 for a WP templated site, $750 for "blog integration" and $3200 for the Copywrite.

Originally Posted by Nick1

Seriously, how much time does it take to set this up? I'm no wordpress guru, but that seems a lot of money for a wordpress site.

It does not take long at all... people are not paying you for your time but rather your time coupled with your expertise.

Originally Posted by Getwhatchuwant

BTB Not tryng to steal a niche, just get some ideas. I just picked up my 1st SEO client, same guy who I mentioned on this thread getting his site redone. He is a financial advisor, do you mind me looking at some of the sites you did?

I'll ask some of those guys if they do not mind me sharing their sites with you. I'd be uncomfortable doing that without their OK.

Originally Posted by BassTrackerBoats

I charge 750.00 USD when I build a WP site but that I only do it for a specific financial services industry.

10 pages, the usual plugins and some specialty stuff but nothing to wild.

BTB Not tryng to steal a niche, just get some ideas. I just picked up my 1st SEO client, same guy who I mentioned on this thread getting his site redone. He is a financial advisor, do you mind me looking at some of the sites you did?

Originally Posted by BassTrackerBoats

I'll ask some of those guys if they do not mind me sharing their sites with you. I'd be uncomfortable doing that without their OK.

No problem, just want to make sure for the money my client is paying for his redo that he is getting a good value. Also he hinted at offering my services to HIS reps, he is partners in a registered investment advisory as well as operating his own office. So if I can do well for him, he wants to white label website builds and SEO to me. But for that I need to A) rank him (which I think I can do) B) find a good site building teammate to outsource to, I dont do website builds.

Originally Posted by Getwhatchuwant

No problem, just want to make sure for the money my client is paying for his redo that he is getting a good value. Also he hinted at offering my services to HIS reps, he is partners in a registered investment advisory as well as operating his own office. So if I can do well for him, he wants to white label website builds and SEO to me. But for that I need to A) rank him (which I think I can do) B) find a good site building teammate to outsource to, I dont do website builds.

That could be some nice side cash for you. I don't do website builds either but I am on this forum with Finance guys and somehow it came up that I was a nerdy geek with no life and offered some free advice to a couple of guys.

One thing led to another and I was asked to build sites for some of them... easiest 750.00 a pop that I could ever generate.

Make sure you borrow some interest rate calculators etc for your clients' sites as those make the site look cool to that crowd.

its all about the layout and the type of client.
i started offering websites from 50/mo with free templates and now i sell 4500 websites with premium templates plus 300/mo for seo plus ranking fees

I usually charge around £400 for cash jobs and around a £1000 if the customer wants an invoice etc..

i usually bundle basic onpage seo, forms, maps, cufon'd text and all stock photography.

It can be a real pain in the arse sometimes, especially if they've not got their content together - I've actually had to write the content for a couple of sites too.

Make sure you get a basic contract sorted and get 50% of the payment upfront to protect yourself...

Make sure you get a basic contract sorted and get 50% of the payment upfront to protect yourself...

You are only going to get flak from the small timers on this. There is a great argument to get past that too.

Originally Posted by BassTrackerBoats

That could be some nice side cash for you. I don't do website builds either but I am on this forum with Finance guys and somehow it came up that I was a nerdy geek with no life and offered some free advice to a couple of guys.

One thing led to another and I was asked to build sites for some of them... easiest 750.00 a pop that I could ever generate.

Make sure you borrow some interest rate calculators etc for your clients' sites as those make the site look cool to that crowd.

Have you done Seo for them too? Like "city name, 401 K" "city name, Financial Services" ?

If so I may have to pick your brain a bit, if you dont mind.

Originally Posted by davids355

For basic site 5 page no special features id charge £300-£500

You say you'd charge that? Have you managed to sell sites for this price? A plumber was here the other day and he doesn't have a website and still uses the Yellow Pages to advertise. He asked me to quote for building him a site and I said I'd do it for £99!!

It's only an hours work for me so thought £99 was good money. Maybe I need to look at upping my prices LOL

Originally Posted by dotcomdesigns

You say you'd charge that? Have you managed to sell sites for this price? A plumber was here the other day and he doesn't have a website and still uses the Yellow Pages to advertise. He asked me to quote for building him a site and I said I'd do it for £99!!

It's only an hours work for me so thought £99 was good money. Maybe I need to look at upping my prices LOL

Yes have sold lots of sites around that amount. Have seen a few offerings around £100 but they are normally junk - not saying yours are but you should probably charge more. Wordpress might be five minutes to you, but to a plumber a website is a complete mystery - just like a boiler fault is to me

I think it's better to charge a low, monthly rate. So instead of a one-time fee of $700 I would charge like $50/month maybe. If I make 20 websites then that's $1000/month. You can justify the recurring fee as maintenance, security, hosting, and minor changes.

Wordpress basic install is 150, goes up rapidly from there. They pay for you to know what your doing. I also charge for hosting, they get backups, updates everything they need -- except seo services. I do onsite seo when they get the site, anything else is extra.

Wordpress basic install is 150, goes up rapidly from there. They pay for you to know what your doing. I also charge for hosting, they get backups, updates everything they need -- except seo services. I do onsite seo when they get the site, anything else is extra.

Originally Posted by Getwhatchuwant

Have you done Seo for them too? Like "city name, 401 K" "city name, Financial Services" ?

If so I may have to pick your brain a bit, if you dont mind.

No I have not. These guys want a site so they can have a presence on the internet... so they can have on their card - xyzfinancecompany.com and look legitimate. They don't care about organic traffic for the most part.

For all:

Don't go in cheap...you undermine your own credibility. Negotiate like any business and you will come out ahead.

When you up-sell show the VALUE of what you have to offer and they will buy everything you've got.

JQ

This thread is somewhat related to the current disscussion and may help some of you make some cash building WP sites:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...lars-week.html

Originally Posted by fuzzy_corleone

I think it's better to charge a low, monthly rate. So instead of a one-time fee of $700 I would charge like $50/month maybe. If I make 20 websites then that's $1000/month. You can justify the recurring fee as maintenance, security, hosting, and minor changes.

I find the opposite works better but that may be a UK thing.

I give them an upfront cost (around £250-£350) for a 5 page site (not wordpress) and a low annual hosting fee (around £15). This doesn't include any SEO apart from getting them indexed through G Webmaster tools.

I pay £80 for my annual hosting and make 3x that back from the sites I have on there.

Any amendments/updates after delivery are charged at an hourly rate of £20. SEO is mostly outsourced through BHW/fiverr and roughly they pay in £ what I pay in $ (so roughly 1/3 of what they pay is my profit for very little work), except for the fiverr stuff which I mark up more.

I find I get a lot of referrals this way and it builds up good will and recurring work.

Originally Posted by jonnyquest

For all:

Don't go in cheap...you undermine your own credibility. Negotiate like any business and you will come out ahead.

When you up-sell show the VALUE of what you have to offer and they will buy everything you've got.

JQ

I think you have to know your client and know your market.

A lot of small companies aren't yet willing to pay £300+ for a website when they can't see the benefits it will give them, however hard you sell it.

Pitch at the right price and you'll get them.

I'm currently working on my 5th website for a single customer because I pitched at a price I knew he could afford.

Optionally find other web companies in your area and make sure you are cheaper than them. If your customer does their homework and searches around for your competitors and you come up cheaper then that should seal the deal.

If you are doing it from scratch charge $500 and if you are using a premium theme charge at least $250 for a 5 page site.

I was going to ask the same exact question but I decided to do a little searching first and I'm glad I found this thread. My idea was the same, target local businesses like lawn guys, plumbers, locksmiths etc.

I have some specific questions that haven't been answered in this thread and I would love to have some insight on from other members actively doing this sort of thing.
First of all i'm not talking about creating super high quality custom sites. I am talking about making inexpensive yet professional looking sites for people who are not tech savy and are mostly in the manual labor business. You know the sort of people that the extent of their company advertising is CL ads. So I'm not talking about creating super crazy websites.. something simple yet effective.

A site that has photos of their employees, products or services, client recommendations etc. Something that they can put on a business card or a work truck. Simple..


So Here goes some specific questions I have..

Wordpress or simple HTML sites? and why

Charge Annually, monthly or one time fee?

Is $250 for a simple 5-10 pg Wordpress site with free theme too much? Not Enough for this type of clientele?

I currently have shared hosting with 1and1 and can have 25 databases which will be for the WP sites. Is this something that would be sufficient? I don't expect these pages to eat up too much bandwidth... i hope!

Upsells will include google places, facebook fan pages, email list management, Twitter etc.

I plan this little side hustle to generate some cash to go on small road trips on my days off so I don't plan to get rich or work crazy hours doing this but It will be nice to make some extra dough. For my day job i'm actually an award winning photojournalist and I work for a national publication. As you know the newspaper biz is crap right now so every extra dollar helps!

I was hoping to offer some premium services to higher end clients such as photojournalist style photos of their employees in action, corporate portraits, slideshows, product photography and other photography related services.

Am I on the right track?

Thanks in advance as this site has been a huge help.

I think you're on the right track, compared to me anyway! I'm planning something very similar. I already have a seasonal brick and mortar business and I want to something to tide me over during my off season.

I'm looking at charging a one time fee of £199 ($300) for a WordPress site build of 5 simple pages. WordPress only for ease. SEO will be offered on a monthly or one of fee priced on what I'd pay on here. A mark up of 300% should be fine. I'll be offering Google Places too and a Facebook page.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by The H5N1

I was going to ask the same exact question but I decided to do a little searching first and I'm glad I found this thread. My idea was the same, target local businesses like lawn guys, plumbers, locksmiths etc.

I have some specific questions that haven't been answered in this thread and I would love to have some insight on from other members actively doing this sort of thing.
First of all i'm not talking about creating super high quality custom sites. I am talking about making inexpensive yet professional looking sites for people who are not tech savy and are mostly in the manual labor business. You know the sort of people that the extent of their company advertising is CL ads. So I'm not talking about creating super crazy websites.. something simple yet effective.

A site that has photos of their employees, products or services, client recommendations etc. Something that they can put on a business card or a work truck. Simple..


So Here goes some specific questions I have..

Wordpress or simple HTML sites? and why

Charge Annually, monthly or one time fee?

Is $250 for a simple 5-10 pg Wordpress site with free theme too much? Not Enough for this type of clientele?

I currently have shared hosting with 1and1 and can have 25 databases which will be for the WP sites. Is this something that would be sufficient? I don't expect these pages to eat up too much bandwidth... i hope!

Upsells will include google places, facebook fan pages, email list management, Twitter etc.

I plan this little side hustle to generate some cash to go on small road trips on my days off so I don't plan to get rich or work crazy hours doing this but It will be nice to make some extra dough. For my day job i'm actually an award winning photojournalist and I work for a national publication. As you know the newspaper biz is crap right now so every extra dollar helps!

I was hoping to offer some premium services to higher end clients such as photojournalist style photos of their employees in action, corporate portraits, slideshows, product photography and other photography related services.

Am I on the right track?

Thanks in advance as this site has been a huge help.

Originally Posted by The H5N1

So Here goes some specific questions I have..

Wordpress or simple HTML sites? and why

I do simple HTML just because it's what I'm used to and I find it easier to amend to fit with any specific colour requirements etc but WP would be fine too if they aren't too fussy.

Originally Posted by The H5N1

Charge Annually, monthly or one time fee?

I charge one time fee plus annual fee for hosting and rough hourly charges for updates.

Originally Posted by The H5N1

Is $250 for a simple 5-10 pg Wordpress site with free theme too much? Not Enough for this type of clientele?

I guess it depends on how much you value your time and how much your client is willing to pay.

For a 5 page WP site $250 is reasonable, if they want more pages work on a $50 per page scale. 5 should be adequate for most small businesses...Home Page...Gallery...Services...Contact Us...Links

Originally Posted by The H5N1

I currently have shared hosting with 1and1 and can have 25 databases which will be for the WP sites. Is this something that would be sufficient? I don't expect these pages to eat up too much bandwidth... i hope!

Should be. I have 20+ on my 160GB a month b/w hosting and I'm nowhere near exceeding that. Just keep an eye on it through your control panel. I did host a forum for someone once which was getting spammed to death and that was using a fair bit of b/w. Also make sure you optimise any images.

Originally Posted by The H5N1

Upsells will include google places, facebook fan pages, email list management, Twitter etc.

Don't forget SEO. I do the VERY basic for free, ie if they google "Dan's Gardening Services" they find their page. Anything else such as ranking higher for "Gardening Services Boston" costs them. I work on a rough multiplier of 1.5 so if it costs me $10 it costs them $15.

You could also manage their google ads (if they go in that direction) etc for a similar mark-up.

Thanks everyone! That's why I love BHW!!!!