So I just awoke this morning to find out I'd just had £16k of my hard earned money completely disappear!

How did this travesty occur? Well for the past two months I've been on a massive ewhoring mission, dedicating 12-14 hours a day creating fake escort profiles on the site adultwork.com, throughout the process I'd used various means to avoid detection, all the usuals like using proxies, taking screenshots of obscure russian women to obtain images etc etc. However at precisely 11:11 am I recieved a ton of emails tto my numerous accounts saying profile after profile had been suspended!

I've lost all the money that the profiles had earned through sale of "private image galleries" over the last couple of months. I'm now highly suspicious of AdultWork as I can't for tthe life of me figure out how they managed to suss out all these fake profiles (around 400 in total) AT THE SAME TIME! Do they just automatically take your money and run after a certain time? I just don't know.

If ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE can help me figure this nightmare out, I will be extremely appreciative and hopefully cross your palm with silver if I ever manage to cash out on this damn site! Please help im at my wits end!

Mungus

16k is a lot of money, sorry you lost it.

may be they got you by your affiliate link?

Did you delete the cookies, flash cookies between 2 account creation/login?

What type of proxies did you use: transparent, anonymous, elite?

Thanks for the replies guys- I wasn't using any affiliate links Howard_Hughes I was earning money by letting guys subscribe to my private picture galleries which is allowed on adultwork.

Honeybird, I was browsing "In Private" all the while I was making and logging into the profiles, I presumed that this would save me having to repeatedly delete my cookies? I could be wrong though. I was using elite proxies for the most part, the strange thing is having all the accounts banned at the exact same time, when I can't think how adultwork could possibly have linked all the accounts together so strange.Oddly enough ,one of my accounts survived, im just trying to establish why this one is so special, it holds the key to big money.

if you didn't cookies then that's probably what did you in

Originally Posted by mungus

Thanks for the replies guys- I wasn't using any affiliate links Howard_Hughes I was earning money by letting guys subscribe to my private picture galleries which is allowed on adultwork.

Honeybird, I was browsing "In Private" all the while I was making and logging into the profiles, I presumed that this would save me having to repeatedly delete my cookies? I could be wrong though. I was using elite proxies for the most part, the strange thing is having all the accounts banned at the exact same time, when I can't think how adultwork could possibly have linked all the accounts together so strange.Oddly enough ,one of my accounts survived, im just trying to establish why this one is so special, it holds the key to big money.

That particular one would i think would be the original one. But still 16k is big money dude. I'm really sorry for what happened.

Sorry to ask that question, but you're collection 16k and didn't payout at all before?

That's not pretty smart if you're working with blackhat tactics and fake accounts in my opinion.

But as already said before, cookies might be an issue if you don´t delete them.

Thanks Haridada, unfortunately that wasn't my original one so I'm still stumped trying to figure out why it's still running.

Guys the reason I didn't cash out was because each individual profile needs to have a minimum of £50 clear credit before you cash out, and because adult work take one third of your balance as a fee, the real sum you need in each account is closer to £90, so across all of the accounts I did actually have alot of money however they hadn't yet reached the threshold, given a couple more weeks or so I would have been able to cash out fine, thus adding to my frustration

As with everything, adsense, clickbank, affiliate programs, all the money earned on these is not worth anything unless it's in your bank.

sorry im confused about the whole cookies thing too, are you saying if I browse incognito (im using chrome) i stilll need to manually delete cookies etc?

See if you have a flash cookie from adultwork using this:
http://www.ghacks.net/2007/05/04/fla...kies-explained

Thanks Monrox, had a ton of flash cookies, none I could see related obviously to adultwork but there was a lot of random ones where it wasn't clear where they came from so it could well have been belonging to adultwork, i'l try set up a few slowly and let you guys know over the next few days if they are staying put

I would guess you were reported by customers for selling pictures you don't own obtained from the net for free.

All it would take is a few complaints about the content you were selling to get them to take a closer look. Also, as you get close to the cashout threshold perhaps they have someone manually reviewing the accounts to make sure everything is above board.

Lastly, it could have been a technical fuckup linking all the accounts together like you mentioned before.

Best of luck in getting this figured out and giving it another shot.

Thanks MrE,

Ill definately be giving it another shot, I think you've nailed it with regards to the customer complaints thing, unfortunately adultwork don't really give you any feedback once they suspend your account so it tends to be guesswork as to why you've been banned but I've had a look at a few site reviews for adultwork and alot of genuine escorts have been complaining about getting their profiles taken down due to complaints even after they have properly verified their accounts with ID and shit . It's pretty heartbreaking but im gonna stick at it, its been the closest i've come to banking big (in my terms anyway) in my 3 year "career" in IM so hopefully there's a way round it, thanks for the support blackhatters!

cc cleaner is the best thing you need - also a virtual machine cos they can track you from other means-

good luck mate im sure youll get there eventually you have a winning formula - just cash out more often - like in the weakest link -

If you can make $16K tricking horny guys into buying shit you can surely make that much doing more legit stuff. Take your talents and energy and put them into legit money makers. It will be one less thing you will have to worry about, and will save you a lot of stress.

Just my 2 cents.

I have a feeling that the site is shady and didnt have the intention to pay most there members in the first place

Originally Posted by nice1

cc cleaner is the best thing you need - also a virtual machine cos they can track you from other means-

good luck mate im sure youll get there eventually you have a winning formula - just cash out more often - like in the weakest link -

Yup. Ccleaner is a must have.. I've also fallen in love with virtual machines... Currently running 4 of them right now.. theyre fantastic.

OP sorry to hear about what happened. Best of luck to you in rebuilding what was lost. Although your accounts were deactivated it sounds like you have a winning formula to duplicate your success.

Kharma is a bi-atch.

any way they linked you through your tax/payout info?

Thanks! I've never used cc cleaner or virtual machines before so il get involved with those, seem like a must have cos im convinced they couldn't of tracked the source of my actual images unless somebody happened to recognise every single girl I'd used all at the same time! Not likely.

"any way they linked you through your tax/payout info?"

They couldn't have buddy, I used an extremely elaborate method to avoid such things, this infact accounted for about 80% of my workload from the beginning.

If you can make $16K tricking horny guys into buying shit you can surely make that much doing more legit stuff. Take your talents and energy and put them into legit money makers. It will be one less thing you will have to worry about, and will save you a lot of stress.

I agree with you, but unfortunately in times like these I really don't have any options ,I've tried and failed with hundreds of ideas some legit, others less so, so when I find something that works Im gonna stick to it. The way I see it, I don't feel bad for conning horny guys out of a couple of bucks to see some pictures, at the end of the day, I don't believe for a second these guys actually care whether the images are genuine or not, we all know how easy it is to get some scud for free so if they're gonna be the suckers who pay for it them I'm happy to bank off them.


I have a feeling that the site is shady and didnt have the intention to pay most there members in the first place

Yeah, that's still a major concern of mine and I can't seem to get to the bottom of it. I've spoken on saafe.info forum to some genuine escorts who use the site and even they are completely undecided about the legitimacy of the site, it seems to be 50/50 horror stories/success stories on AW.

eh its okay i had to pay 15k for a lawyer just recently

The Tax Payout would be the Biggest TIP...I do the same on a network ive been using for almost a year and every month or 2 they ban all my accounts and im sure it has to do with a credit card sweep or common denominator of the likes .. Thay all must be getting paid to the same account because having enough accounts to sum up 16k in payouts but not having the 90# threshold on each seems a bit cumbersome. Youd have to have a few diffrent payment methods which all would cost to have and no way do you have a seperate bank account for each profile.. 1+1=2 seems pretty apparent ..If this is not the case how were you going to funnel all that money to the same account through many diffrent accounts. MY assumption is that if cleaning cookies was to much work for you then creating separate paypal accounts or the likes for each would have been equally bothersome.. Good Luck in the Future and Plan ahead .

You Lost more than 16k in Virtual payments ..My Guess is you are just Promoting the Site.It costs just to get featured to get hits as well as all sorts of other stuff.. I just reviewed the site as you were dumb enough to reveal a site technique that others could monopolize on.IMPO you are just trying to drive traffic to the site..Its a smart site but not for a general blackhatter..I appreciate the Lead though..and youre welcome for the hit. Just to clarify without hitting threshold and having enough accounts that were completely filled out would equal 320 accounts ..Come on guys MANUALLY..we are all smarter than that 16k/50=320 im done on this thread I was going to help but its a apparent spam thread..

I have had this happen to me more times than I care to admit to. Really nothing can be done. It took time for me to not be so pissed. I had to quit AM altogether because of it.

Affiliate managers are just as shady and blackhat as the affiliates. No honor among thieves.

Sorry guy.

The Tax Payout would be the Biggest TIP...I do the same on a network ive been using for almost a year and every month or 2 they ban all my accounts and im sure it has to do with a credit card sweep or common denominator of the likes .. Thay all must be getting paid to the same account because having enough accounts to sum up 16k in payouts but not having the 90# threshold on each seems a bit cumbersome. Youd have to have a few diffrent payment methods which all would cost to have and no way do you have a seperate bank account for each profile.. 1+1=2 seems pretty apparent ..If this is not the case how were you going to funnel all that money to the same account through many diffrent accounts. MY assumption is that if cleaning cookies was to much work for you then creating separate paypal accounts or the likes for each would have been equally bothersome.. Good Luck in the Future and Plan ahead .


You honestly think I'd bother setting up hundreds of seperate payment accounts, the reason I was happy sharing this method was because filtering the payments is the missing link that I'm not willing to share,if any one here can figure here can figure it out then good luck to them. There are already tons of people doing what I'm doing on this site and it would take more than you and your pedigree chums to "monopolize" the site. From site analysis, it averages 35k hits daily, 98% of the traffic is UK based and about half the profiles are fakes, but the pervs on the site know this and still continue to pay for the private galleries. I've been tempted to buy the occassional one myself while working on the site and I KNOW THEY'RE FUCKING FAKE! It's the great unknown my good man, and when people are put in a position of tempation to "see more" their animal instincts take over.

And by the way, PAYPAL and all the other usual suspects don't even enter the equation, im surprised this wasn't one of the first things you noticed when you "reviewed" the site.


You Lost more than 16k in Virtual payments ..My Guess is you are just Promoting the Site

cynics and nae sayers can lovingly suck my fuck.

Who benefits if I promote the site on here,seriously?!

Show me their affiliate scheme, or show me a link that I've given you guys to one of my escorts.

" Hey! why not check out one of my fake profiles guys and pay for my fake gallery for credits that I can't even cash out!" Clearly, you've had me sussed from the outset sherlock. :/

It costs just to get featured to get hits as well as all sorts of other stuff.. I just reviewed the site as you were dumb enough to reveal a site technique that others could monopolize on.

I've been doing this for months, I've evaluated the site fully and I realise that giving away my method will not in the slightest way cause this site to become saturated with fake profiles, simple fact is, it's already full of them and has been since it's inception. Use your brain man, do you honestly think I'm that stupid?!

IMPO you are just trying to drive traffic to the site..Its a smart site but not for a general blackhatter..I appreciate the Lead though..and youre welcome for the hit.

Why?! I honestly can't see the benefit, unless I'm the site owner then how can I possibly benefit unless the good people of BHW happen to stumble upon my fake profiles and purchase the private galleries I created, (THAT HAVE NOW BEEN SUSPENDED MIGHT I ADD). I'd hate to be the one to calculate the odds of that happening. Youre free to take that lead and run with it, because I doubt your attitude will get you very far but I wish you luck with that anyway.

Just to clarify without hitting threshold and having enough accounts that were completely filled out would equal 320 accounts ..Come on guys MANUALLY..we are all smarter than that 16k/50=320 im done on this thread I was going to help but its a apparent spam thread..

Remind me never to use YOU to launder my ill gotten millions. If tha'ts the extent to which the creativity of your payment manipulation skills reach then I don't hold out much hope for you in being successful in this method. I spent a long time planning this before I got started. Anyone with the slightest trace of a brain cell would instantly come up with the same plan as me within 5 seconds of landing on the adultwork site. You honestly think each of the 35,000 or so daily visitors don't think about creating fake profiles for profit themselves?!
The trick lies in actually getting up off your arse and doing it on a huge scale whilst making it manageable. Given the fact that my BH knowledge is relatively limited, I came very close to cashing in and I can assure you I will from this site and I have absolutely no qualms or regrets about putting this method on the site . I sincerely hope a few blackhatters can have success out of this method because if it wasn't for some very kind individuals on this site I wouldn't have come close. As for your help, I sincerely doubt you have anything positive to offer.

I had a genuine profile on adultwork, and it has been removed due to some idiot complaining, but this idiot is a stalker i have had for the past three years, i had advised adultwork of this previously, and people who register on adultwork as a service seeker can have aliases and also aliases can be removed, they said they had several complaints, but i suspect it is the same person, i never had any problem like that whatsoever until this person came on to the scene, as far as i am concerned my clients were all happy and no previous problems reported at all, and had all good feedback also. But it seems that i got no say in this at all, and they just removed my orofile and i lost all my credits, and the e mail they send you to let you I think this is a totally unfair system, and i have heard of this happening before to other girls, and only read the other day on google that this happened to another girl because some punter got a bee in his bonnet and decided to report her, like i said this can be done by the same person, but be made to look kike it is several people if someone is clever about how they do it. there are some nasty vindictive people out there, and in that industry are more at risk of coming accross such people. i think that something should be done about this as it is totally unfair.

To have such a lot of profiles suspended so quickly, they must have some sort of profile usage scan across the website. It seems you were very careful for the last two months, to build income in the amount of accounts you possessed without alarming the website owners.

Maybe some dissatisfied user went on an account flagging spree and got all your accounts banned.

Maybe you missed something that could be traced by the website owners, that appeared across all your profiles that got banned.

Who knows seems very strange that profiles got banned so close together, would of expected 2 or 3 bans not the whole lot in one swift blow.

Originally Posted by shaddelick

I have a feeling that the site is shady and didnt have the intention to pay most there members in the first place

the irony of this post is pretty awesome.

Dude, bad luck of the draw - sorry to hear.

But here's an idea ... after you've managed to find the holy grail, you can make use of your gained wisdom, having learned the hard way!

Heck... write a book even!

Originally Posted by mungus

Thanks for the replies guys- I wasn't using any affiliate links Howard_Hughes I was earning money by letting guys subscribe to my private picture galleries which is allowed on adultwork.

Honeybird, I was browsing "In Private" all the while I was making and logging into the profiles, I presumed that this would save me having to repeatedly delete my cookies? I could be wrong though. I was using elite proxies for the most part, the strange thing is having all the accounts banned at the exact same time, when I can't think how adultwork could possibly have linked all the accounts together so strange.Oddly enough ,one of my accounts survived, im just trying to establish why this one is so special, it holds the key to big money.

This is a problem. You should never trust a mechanism like this, especially when a membership site uses a session based cookie. Or it could be that you re-used a proxy mistakenly a few times and the system sussed it.

Could also be a footprint you are leaving behind, like taking the exact same amount of time to create a profile? Non-human behaviour can set off alarm bells. e.g. It took exactly 3.4657221 minutes to create each of the newest 54 profiles on the site. Just brainstorming here.....

Originally Posted by Kikii

Dude, bad luck of the draw - sorry to hear.

But here's an idea ... after you've managed to find the holy grail, you can make use of your gained wisdom, having learned the hard way!

Heck... write a book even!

Yep, then sell it on DP!

This sucks, and I can think of only 2 reasons why this happened, you have been reported too many times, or the company you were working for ran with the money, and my money is on the latter one, but like others have said I would take this experience and use it to do something legit you have the skills by the sound of it and probably make better money this way.

Anyway best of Luck
Godmonkee

Originally Posted by dating101

No honor among thieves.

Well said mate..

Toatally didnt Mean to Flame the Post ..Sorry If I offended I also Am Not a Seasoned Blackhatter But i make around 32k a year right now on Adult Site Marketing .. Guess i was having a Bad Moment when i wrote on this one ..Good Luck to ya and i hope you Figured it out ...

One weakness in your system was the images, they weren't yours so the metadata on the pics can be traced back to source.

you had two major flaws

1 - you had no way of being paid - to be paid you have to take a wire with an EU/UK bank - and that would have created a flag, or you have to use payoneer for which you have to paid.

2 - most legit accounts on there are for escorts, cam and phone sex - not selling pics - no calls, no cam, no bookings and probably all the profiles were same

you were never going to be paid

they are a legit site

Sorry folks, I didn't realise there had been so many responses since I last checked this thread. Some interesting ideas floating about so thank you all.

I was actually using lpaytoomobile for payments who also have turned out to be a complete nightmare since. Although since then I have managed to bank 200 in my ACTUAL account,but definately not worth the time and effort so I just make up the occassional profile. I suspect the i;mages were my main problem and I tried the following to make them "my own"-

1. Used google translate to search "russian escorts(any country really)" , then searched google images. Tried to find grainy homemade and "real" looking images as possible.

2. I'd then take a screen shot of the image and save it.

3. I'd change the saturation and hue and pixelate the faces with photo shop.

4. I also occassionaly experimented by just taking loads of snapshots from videos of amatuer cam girls,these images stayed up a little longer but still the effect was negligble.

Other than that, I'm not sure how deep the meta data goes so wasn't really sure what else I could do to avoid detection.

If anybody is interested in JV'ing on this method feel free to PM me as I'm sure money can be made from the site in a big way,thanks again for the tips people!

hit me on skype interested

Some sites use an identification method called "browser footprinting". Everytime you visit a site your browser tells the site which plugins, fonts etc. you are using. The combination of all those settings make your browser unique...

Originally Posted by Daikoku

Some sites use an identification method called "browser footprinting". Everytime you visit a site your browser tells the site which plugins, fonts etc. you are using. The combination of all those settings make your browser unique...

Do you think there's a way around this? I've been using virtual machines and it worked for a short while, but now my profiles are being taken down almost instantly,Im pretty convinced now that they just do this to everybody who doesn't initially go through the full verification process

Originally Posted by mungus

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Honeybird, I was browsing "In Private" all the while I was making and logging into the profiles, I presumed that this would save me having to repeatedly delete my cookies? I could be wrong though. ...

FWIW: private mode is intended to protect you from people with access to your PC, not from the sites you visit. It may delete cookies when you close windows but I wouldn't rely on it.

Originally Posted by Daikoku

Some sites use an identification method called "browser footprinting". Everytime you visit a site your browser tells the site which plugins, fonts etc. you are using. The combination of all those settings make your browser unique...

exactly, i was thinking this or the cookie issue. its INSANE, once you see, what sites can tell about you/your computer once you are on there website. its very very very detailed and can you can suddenly be like a snowflake. you said you were using 4 vms, but that is 100 profs each.

also i use BETTERPRIVACY for FF and have it set to delete LSOs every hour and when ff closes. they are worthless cookies. Search and Destroy will find other types of cookies sometimes too.

im not in your industry,but curious as to how you got your multiple payment options setup! gl

Originally Posted by jstover77

If you can make $16K tricking horny guys into buying shit you can surely make that much doing more legit stuff. Take your talents and energy and put them into legit money makers. It will be one less thing you will have to worry about, and will save you a lot of stress.

Just my 2 cents.

This. Really sorry you took such a hit bro. That is terrible

Also, when I'm feeling down, I'm going to come by this thread and say, at least this didn't happen

mungus, hey why do not you contact support and ask the reason they deleted your latest profile?
You can try this too: clean cache and cookies, enable private browsing in firefox, use some socks proxy (buy from someone who sells proxies from botnet, not public, e.g. anyproxy.net, vip72.com), in your TCP/IP settings (if you have automatic selected) enter primary DNS as 8.8.8.8 (it is google), secondary DNS to anything else.
Here is the site showing details about your PC: ip-score.com (click the buttons there it will show what IP different plugins may pass).
upd:
Just read above that private browsing is used only to keep cache and history clean, not for anonymous surfing and it is really so as per firefox help. But here is a list of plugins for anonymous surfing you could try some probably: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tag/anonymous