First off I'd like to thank GobBluthJD for starting this thread. After reading through it I decided to try it out. I've just finished writing my first book and will be uploading it to amazon in a few days once its been formatted. Whilst I'm waiting for it to be formatted I've been brainstorming possible promotion methods. What do you guys think of creating a website and promoting your own book? You could basically become an amazon affiliate for your book. Also do you think you could get a way with answering yahoo answers questions and putting a link in the answer you give? The link wouldn't be to your amazon page as that would get you banned but instead to something like a book trailer on youtube(you can get a decent trailer on fiverr). You can then put the link to your amazon page in the description of the video.
Forgot to add something. Does anyone think its worth it to get you book translated on fiverr so you can post it on for example the german or Spanish versions of amazon?
I've just finished reading a kindle book guide. It suggested you should get backlinks directly to your amazon salespage. Has anyone tried this before and had any success?
As far as I am aware you can use your amazon affilate link for sales on your own book - so when you put links out there make sure they contain the genre keywords and your affiliate code. Easy.
I don't like the book trailers on fiverr. I made a movie trailer using animoto for a book in 2011, it took about an hour - you can find it here:
The book has not yet been promoted on KDP but sales are picking up based on the promotion of the latest book.Code:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRPWj1lpNRw
If you use fiverr to translate your book they will most likely use software and I would not expect he qulaity to be very good. Head over to Odesk and pay the little extra to get it translated. Remember Amazon is not as big in all countries.
Update: Sales on current book following promotion have just topped 300 in just under 5 days - All UK - Price £2.50 + VAT.
#681 Paid in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Paid in Kindle Store)
Hi guys! First of all, I'd like to thank Gob and everyone else for the great info provided. I've already published a couple of non-fiction how-to ebooks, but now I've decided to go the erotica route. Sadly though, my first erotica book did not get accepted. I've tried contacting them about it, but apparently they don't give you the details... just the generic 'read our quality guidelines' reply. I've read it three times and still can't find the problem. Grammar, spelling and overall quality shouldn't be a problem, because I've had other books published there with no hassle whatsoever. I mean, I can guess what the problem is... the sex scene does tend to include some rather harsh expressions and curse words, but hey, that's how it naturally progresses sometimes, right? Either that, or the fact that the main 'intercoursing' actors are both 17 years old. If it's just that, I can change a sentence and have it fixed. If it's the other thing... then that's both sad and depressing, because I feel severely limited as an artist if I can't have harsh scenes in there. Not to mention I'd be guessing anyhow as to what's prohibited and what isn't and would be limiting myself in ways not even required, just to make sure my work gets accepted. I feel the overall quality would suffer that way. It really wouldn't hurt them to add a sentence or two explaining things like Ezine articles does, so you don't have to stumble in the dark. And by the way... what do they mean by 'no pornography allowed'? How can erotica exist without it? I do hope this refers to the graphics and things of that nature and not the text itself. Thanks for the clarification. If anyone has any ideas about this, I would really appreciate them right now. Publishing your first work of fiction and not passing the review phase can sure bring a man down. (pardon the editing. it's my first post and 'enter' apparently doesn't work as far as paragraphs are concerned.)
Haha Street-smarts, that is an obviously violation and it is sensitive anywhere on the internet. (Especially English community) :P
Hmm, I should have imagined this to be the reason, although it seems minor. Silly me. Alright, thanks... I'll be resubmitting the book after editing this out. Fingers crossed it goes through this time.
What's the best way to get added to the skype group - not sure i can PM yet...happy to just my Skype ID if its easiest...
Do you guys add anything to your pen names back stories, besides the amazon bio? Like create a website under a pen name, in case people google it. I think it might add value to your authority.
I've also had this idea, I don't know if it's feasable:
step1 - create a website
step2 - create a book part1
step3 - put the book part1 on amazon. Add links to your website at the end of the book
step4 - sell book part2, part3, etc, how many you want on your website
That way 1) you're not selling the book that's on amazon (ie: that's against the T&C) but you're 2) bringing people to your website and 3) getting 100% of the money you're making from selling the subsequent parts on your website instead of the 70% from amazon.
That's what I'm aiming at. I'm writing my first ebook now (a sort of strategy/how to for a specific niche) and will put it on amazon. Then put the "advanced" book on my website that will be linked in the ebook. Will report if anyone's interested, might take some time though!
Thread bookmarked. I will start working on it very soon.
Lol I just laughed my ass off... I went to open a kdp account, until I remember that a couple of years ago I had already opened an account that I had completely forgotten about - but more importantly, I found my old, hilariously ridiculous ebook that I had published 2 years ago (just to see how the whole kindle thing worked). Much to my surprise, this 10-page book that I wrote as a joke had received a 5 star rating and has actually sold a couple of copies a month - which wouldn't be much, except the topic of the book is so hilariously stupid that I didn't expect anyone to ever buy it... Also, I didn't promote it and there wasn't even a kdp select program then as far as I remember. But people bought it for a laugh...
I guess I forgot all about Kindle then because also at that time my seo stuff started taking off and I shifted my focus there 100% - but this definitely makes me want to do this kindle stuff even more, this time for serious.
I'm tempted to release a book now! Cheers for the post bro
From there, you'll want to search through the Kindle book store to find books in your keywords that generate an acceptable number of sales. The sales figures may be converted from the Amazon Best Seller Rank you see on each product listing. There are many free charts for this, we developed our own for Zon Sidekick but the information is out there. Loosely speaking, books with <=25k are a good starting point.
It's important to note that we've found keywords with a good "spread" of sales to be ideal for publishing a new product. This typically means that shoppers aren't finding what they're looking for and/or are willing to purchase multiple books (this can sometimes be verified through the "customers also purchased..." fields) and provides you with a greater chance of success when publishing a new book. If you'd like some more advice on picking a topic to write about (you really can do this) then feel free to shoot me a pm. My software automates this entire process and I talk about this stuff all the time with my customers, we'll be releasing a great public knowledge base soon but for now I'm just a PM away.
nice post, thank you for sharing!
Does this really work? I mean the Kindle store is full of shitty ebooks which don't sell (and nobody needs).
I've checked the Top 100 Paid of each cat but there are only Kindle versions of commercial (printed) books.
I agree -- there is also now an "indie published" list of top sellers at the NYT.
I just put up two erotica short stories. I'll try to submit to some promotional sites tonight and update with how it goes. Is there a name for the Skype group? I can give reviews.
I've changed the 17 thing to 18 and my book got accepted. Not only that, it made a sale on the first day (no promotion whatsoever), which has never happened to me before with non-fiction books! And if you're writing content yourself, fiction is waaay more fun to do than non-fiction, at least for me anyway. I've been a writer hobbyist for as long as I can remember, but the hassle of having to deal with brick and mortar publishers has always been a stopper for me. KDP seems to be the 'promised land' for us writers.
My goal is to write 1k words per day. I could crank it up some more, but my productivity rate seems to be spiraling downwards after the mentioned quota, so it's kinda not worth it to push myself above the limit.
Anyway. Do you think it's realistic to expect around 10 sales per ebook per month as an unknown author?
I think that expecting 10 sales per month is an ok goal to start with. It all depends on the quality of your book. Did you start it with the few days free promotion? If you did, you might get a few 4 or 5 stars reviews which would really help to make sales in the future.
In any case, good luck!
So yes, your claim is completely untrue.
But hey, I'm glad you think that Kindle is impossible to sell on. Less competition for guys like me.
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And for the record, I started with cookbooks, but they only make up about..10 of my 103 books (so far)
I wrote already that the Kindle store is FULL OF CR/\P RELEASES. I would love to see some more success stories here but i doubt it.
I wonder why focus only on Kindle... If a books sells well in the Kindle store it will on the Apple store too. Also a printed version (books-on-demand).
Btw this "method" isn't for me because i'm not a native english speaker/writer and the kindle sold not well in my country .-/
Anyway I don't get why speaking about it on BHW. It's not blackhat, not even IM. Better to post your success story on self-publishing forums.
This thread will just make few people loose their money on odesk ( but some people on odesk will win ), make many crappy books on kindle store that will disappoint buyers and make amazon control more the KDP autors.
OP have been very lucky at start and it make him focus and work hard to become very skilled at self-publishing. Some people will have success on it, mainly ones who like writing ( or at least reading ).
But for most of us, non-fiction people, writing e-book for warriors forum or clickbank will bring you more than 10 times your bucks per book. If you affiliate sell product it's 100 times per sale...
Don't forget that amazon will pay only a 60 after end of the month and they can ban your account at anytime for anything ( no respect the guidelines, fake reviews, to big refound ratio, even if their is too much gramtical or formating error in your book... )
I don't say it's not possible and your clearly say it's not easy in the OP but during the thread I think not everybody understand that is more a personal experience. I don't think the OP will ruin his magik method at XXXXX$ by spoonfeed publicly for few +rep and thanks on BHW.
Incredible ongoing work you have done with this thread. Great job!
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First , thanks GB for creating this post , it has really opened my eyes for a great passive income opportunity. I have a question about using public domain books , if you basically do a translation of a book to a foreign language and than add some original pictures to it ,is that legally sellable on kindle ? ,
Hi, everyone. First, let me add to the heaps of thank-yous to Gob Bluth for posting this great thread. May your development never be arrested.
After reading the entire thread over 3 days, I thought I would post a few thoughts from a somewhat unique perspective. I actually wrote a book a few years back and have been a KDP publisher for almost two years. I never logged in very often to see how many sales I was making, but turns out I was making about 2 sales a day for the last year and a half.
I made some mistakes that I'll share with you so you can avoid them. Despite that, I was extremely motivated by this post and now have a goal, between me and my main partner in the ad agency I run, to get 100 Kindle books published within a year. We are both pretty prolific writers and it's very doable (I've digested all the ghostwriting advice here, but for now plan to write our own stuff). I've created a public spreadsheet about what I think we can expect revenue-wise with four tabs: each has projections for 2 sales per day per book, then 4, 8 and 16 (wishful thinking, but something to shoot for).
(I tried to insert the link to the document here, but I'm brand new to BHW and I don't have that permission yet. If anyone would like it and can tell me how to get it up here, I will! It's a very motivational docuemnt. )
My biggest mistake at the beginning was to post the book for 99 cents, locking myself into a 30-cent royalty, rather than pricing at $2.99 and getting a $2.10 royalty. Don't ask me for a great rationale for why I did that...I guess at the time I was thinking who cares, it's not going to be a big moneymaker anyway, and I knew I could sell more and get to the top of the best-seller list easier that way. In retrospect, it was pretty dumb, and I just proved it last week by switching to the 70% royalty at a $2.99 price point. My sales have dropped off by about 30% (although it's only been that way for a week, so this isn't necessarily indicative of any trend...it's summertime, and sales could bounce back to normal anytime). But even if my sales permanently drop 30%, I've still tripled-quadrupled my income on the book thanks to the higher royalty rate.
Borrows are often as good as sales. KDP has something called the KDP Select Global Fund, and basically it's a giant pool of money every month (for July, I believe it was $1 million). Every time your book is loaned to someone else, you get a stake in that pool of money. Each month, they add up all the borrows, and split the money equally among the publishers. So, for ease of math, let's say that KDP books were loaned 500,000 times in July. That means you'll get $2 for every time someone borrows your book. That's basically the same as a $2.07 royalty on a purchase, so that's pretty awesome. I don't know any particular way to encourage lending of your book once it's purchased, but if anyone else does, I'd love to hear it.
Do not underestimate the size of the Amazon world. I know that sounds fuzzy, but the truth of the matter is, the size of the potential audience is dizzying and really impossible to comprehend. Don't be quick to think no one will be interested to read about your topic -- if you address a human problem/concern with your book, there will be an audience for it. Here are the populations of the 10 Amazon country sites you can sell Kindle books on:
USA: 315 million
India: 1.2 billion
UK: 63 million
France: 65 million
Japan: 127 million
Germany: 80 million
Spain: 47 million
Italy: 60 million
Brazil: 193 million
Canada: 35 million
And of course, more are coming. Amazon China already exists, and once Amazon gets their system together to support other character sets, the market will explode even further. Yes, it's true that in some of these countries, much of that population is very poor and won't be buying Amazon Kindle books this year...but they're coming online quickly. And of course, you don't need all of them to buy your book to make yourself a comfortable income -- just the tiniest sliver.
I would echo a couple of the earlier sentiment in this thread: Everyone knows how to do something, and there are people out there who would love your instruction on how to do it!
Thanks, and good luck to everyone!
Also the Kindle Fire HD costs much more in Germany (~$265) than in the US ($159).
Btw why does this thread only focus on Kindle? Why not iTunes and other ePub readers too?
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Guys, how many words should be an erotic story in order to price it at 2.99$ ?
This is a great thread and I'm really excited to get started with self publishing on the Kindle. Having read blogs from Amanda Hocking and J A Konrath, it seems that being prolific was a big part of their success with fiction publishing. Would you agree with that? Since I am doing all the writing myself, it will be a very tall order to produce several 60K plus word books in a short space of time.
A more constructive way of handling that question;
- Does anyone else publish on iTunes, Google Play, other readers, etc etc?
- How did it work out, especially compared to kindle (if you've published on Kindle as well) ??
Because the title of the thread is: Guys: Kindle is the Ticket!Btw why does this thread only focus on Kindle? Why not iTunes and other ePub readers too?
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