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Sudden drop of sales.
I work with Clickbank and thought maybe you experience something like this, too. In weeks before I had more or less regular sales and even had 5 days straight with at least one sale each day, but now for last 6 days there have been NO SALES at all! Altough the traffic to my sales pages/sites has been increasing. What could be wrong? There weren't any drastic changes in sites for sales to drop this steadily. I mean. I am getting around maybe 1000 uniques a week for my all sites combined and usually have sales but not this week. BTW how do I get more serp traffic to my sites? I've worked on backlinks but still most traffic comes from direct promotion on yahoo answers or forums which I need to do each day.
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
I've noticed a slight decrease in sales with some of my campaigns. I'm guessing that it could be due to the economic slump that we are experiencing.
However, certain Clickbank products are doing just fine especially the health related products.
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
its inevitable, even my online store experienced decrease in sales
my BF's adult site also, lesser subscribers
order refund and cancellation here and there
lets stay positive, im pretty sure by next year it will return back to normal
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
Yeah, its pretty hard right now, but I guess that if we can manage to struggle or even get good income in these hard times, then it will be a very good feeling when economy improves and we get big spike in sales. BTW - Snowwhite, you are pretty sure next year will be better, but what makes you think so? Change of president? Because from what I've heard, in my country the economical crysis is no where near end. Of course my country people would never buy from my sites, I need good economy for english speaking countries he he
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im actually not sure, I just want to practice positivity. Law of attraction. Im hoping and positive that by next year, economy will somewhat recover. Obama being the new president wont really help that much with regards to the plummeting economy, but the people will.
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
Clickbank are experiencing massive payment processing problems, i get customers emailing every day saying 'we are unable to process your order' and its just getting worse, then you get a flurry of sales within like 2 minutes and then it goes dead again for 6 hours. They really need to get there act together or affiliates will drop like flies.
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Clickbank are experiencing massive payment processing problems, i get customers emailing every day saying 'we are unable to process your order' and its just getting worse, then you get a flurry of sales within like 2 minutes and then it goes dead again for 6 hours. They really need to get there act together or affiliates will drop like flies.
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Indeed. This has been discussed all over the place, so it's not just us. CB has some serious tracking / payment processor issues that have yet to be fully revealed. Even Harvey Segal's forum (biggest CB cheer leading forum ever) has a "darkout" on discussing it.
If they don't get that shit fixed soon, many merchants will have found new merchant and affiliate management programs.
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I also started reading it and it really seems so. That sucks so much because I just started getting good sales and that felt so nice and now BAM! Anyway, maybe someone could recommend similar affiliate sites to clickbank? There's is CJ but it's too professional and hard for me. Need some good CB alternative, maybe I could even substitute my existing CB products with new ones.
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
My Google tracking tells me 2 sales were made(I had my tracking placed on the thank you page) but in my CB account I had 0 sales. I use to make $2000-$3000 a day with CB and as of today I make $30 a day if I am lucky. CB can go fuck themselves.
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from 2000-3000 a day to $30???
haha... something must be really wrong
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My Google tracking tells me 2 sales were made(I had my tracking placed on the thank you page) but in my CB account I had 0 sales. I use to make $2000-$3000 a day with CB and as of today I make $30 a day if I am lucky. CB can go fuck themselves.
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EXACTLY my situation too. I even setup Prosper*202 and tracked incoming and outgoing IP addresses to my site. I also track the timestamp of the outgoing click (affiliate link) to the merchant thank you page's timestamp and it is all within 1 or 2 minutes. All from the same fuckin IP! Prosper*202 and Google Analytics both show conversions, yet CB shows jack shit.
So someone tell me how the fuck that person can click on my affiliate link, go to the merchant's page, then bounce, click on another affiliate's link, and buy the product all within 1 or 2 minutes?
I passed Clickbank the IP addresses of my confirmed purchases, and asked them to determine whether an affiliate ID is attached to any one of them. I haven't gotten a response yet. If I see the same affiliate ID on all of them, I'm gonna smoke that fucker. If I see no affiliate link, I'm going to the merchant and asking what the fuck. IP addresses, timestamps, and tracking pixels don't lie, so something doesn't add up.
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There is a thing out there called Adware-- think Zango style apps-- that people have downloaded... Now when they go to make a purchase-- they are getting cookied by pop-up virus-- This is one explanation of the two hundred I could come up with-- As a person that has dumped 1k now into clickbank promoting exclusively with adwords and making little profit-- I have come to conclusion that clickbank is dead-- except for the select view using these darkworld tactics-- and anyone claiming to be making a killing with clickbank are just living in a fairytale land- far far far away from planet reality. Maybe it makes them feel good saying they have made enormous sums of money. But their clickbank accounts tell a different story--
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Ok, so the question is - is there a substitute for CB and does anyone know one?
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
Id like know too  just found great niche with lots of cheap clicks and the product sales page is nice too ,using direct linking atm since i would not rather buy domain just for it incase it flops.
Im hoping clickbank would fix their broplems soon
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I already registered at click2sell.eu, it's terms are much more suitable for me as it pays paypal and is a EU company, however lack of products is a big - and I can not find products that would replace the ones I already have at CB.
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
Meh hops & sales decreasing. Seems like there has been a few problems over the last few weeks, I thought a pretty big company like CB would be prepared for anything, gonna have to find a short-term alternative. I've noticed that any of the sales I have made have been paypal sales, where as a few weeks ago it was all card transactions for a number of weeks, now it's all paypal, strange or co-incidence?
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Ya I've seen a huge cut in my online sales. Been staying up 20 hours a day trying to figure something out. My car payment is behind and the other day they put a 5 day eviction notice on my door, so I to am feeling the sting of all this. The country has been in financial disaster for a long time, but.. I knew when they started coming out on tv saying "we are broke" that all the sheeple would stop buying, and sure enough they did.
If anyone has some solid ideas on how to earn some money, please share. I tried ewhoring last night for cam sites. Got a lot of guys poppn in at me on chat forums.. oh I feel so dirty, what a bad slut I am. talked to about 15 or so guys but no sales. Really like to figure out a way to market those live cams without talking and feeling like a dirty whore. But since CL has their duche bad panties in a wad not sure if I could still use them to my advantage.
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
That's why I stop spending money on Clickbank and just let my organic websites give me sales every once in awhile. I've been saying this for a long time, for years CB system is fucked up and every time they have an 'update' it just gets worse.
They're doing better right now... but look out the moment they update their system again... we'll again have lower sales.. Bah..
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Kingbrend, what other affiliate marketplaces do you recommend?
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These can be natural fluctuations. Eventual you will probably have a large increase as well.
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These can be natural fluctuations. Eventual you will probably have a large increase as well.
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Nop, because then traffic and hops would decrease, too, but they have only increased because I had worked on getting more traffic.
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What pisses me off is they never seem to have a problem processing the refunds lol
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This has to do with economy right? Low income = less profit for us.
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This has to do with economy right? Low income = less profit for us.
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Yeh thats what it seems like, but also clickbanks tracking is off as well..
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There is a 2 page thread about this on Warrior, not sure if this is the problem but looks like it might be. Apparently some affiliate ID's are not showing up at the bottom of their pages so they are not getting credit for any sales etc. I know mine have not been showing up. Clickbank have said they are aware of the problem.
I hope this link helps you guys. i have emailed clickbank this morning and waiting for a response.
Change the ** back into tt. Change w3 to www and change c0m back to com.
h**p://w3.warriorforum.c0m/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/27654-check-your-affiliate-link-if-you-promoting-strip-fat.html
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OMG!!! i just read the thread there.... its madness... No wonder my sales on those 2 days were crap... i thought my campaigns were dying off but apparently its not... wtf...
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OMG!!! i just read the thread there.... its madness... No wonder my sales on those 2 days were crap... i thought my campaigns were dying off but apparently its not... wtf...
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I have sent them an email i will post their reply when i get it.
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Hi Guys, not sure if anyone is interested in my reply from clickbank but thought i would post it anyway. They didn't actually mention anything about the problems they have been having, not sure why as they have admitted it before. Their response anyway was:
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Please double check your hoplinks to ensure they are in the proper format.
The affiliate hoplink must be set up in the following format to track commissions properly:
http://AFFILIATE.PUBLISHER.hop.clickbank.net
"AFFILIATE" must be replaced with the affiliate's ClickBank nickname and "PUBLISHER" with the publisher's ClickBank nickname.
You can verify that your links are set up correctly by following the steps outlined below:
1. Enter your hoplink into a new browser window.
2. Click on one of the publisher's ClickBank order buttons.
3. Scroll to the bottom of the ClickBank payment window. You should see your account nickname listed as the affiliate.
This proves that your link is set up correctly and ensures your account will be credited with any commissions earned by referring paying customers to this publisher.
For further information on how hoplinks work, please see the following: http://www.clickbank.com/hoplink_faq.html
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EXACTLY my situation too. I even setup Prosper*202 and tracked incoming and outgoing IP addresses to my site. I also track the timestamp of the outgoing click (affiliate link) to the merchant thank you page's timestamp and it is all within 1 or 2 minutes. All from the same fuckin IP! Prosper*202 and Google Analytics both show conversions, yet CB shows jack shit.
So someone tell me how the fuck that person can click on my affiliate link, go to the merchant's page, then bounce, click on another affiliate's link, and buy the product all within 1 or 2 minutes?
I passed Clickbank the IP addresses of my confirmed purchases, and asked them to determine whether an affiliate ID is attached to any one of them. I haven't gotten a response yet. If I see the same affiliate ID on all of them, I'm gonna smoke that fucker. If I see no affiliate link, I'm going to the merchant and asking what the fuck. IP addresses, timestamps, and tracking pixels don't lie, so something doesn't add up.
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I'll help you smoke that fucker!! Cuz if that's the case it ain't just your commissions he's been stealing!!
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Well...Most people also worried that they MIGHT lost their job...due to retrenchment or the company might closed down suddenly...
People are just panic...it is naturall...and therefore...must save more money for the future..just in case there is NO more income coming in...
Budget is the word..
For SURE...economic downturn now affects many people...and we cant stop it..The only way is to UPGRADE ourselves with more skills and look for other money making opportunties...
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I think that the fucks at Clickbank are shafting us personally. I get sales every day..And i mean every day. Then 4 days nothing. I write to complain and next day sales start coming in.
Be honest, if you were Clickbank why not take the commission yourself every now and again??
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I think that the fucks at Clickbank are shafting us personally. I get sales every day..And i mean every day. Then 4 days nothing. I write to complain and next day sales start coming in.
Be honest, if you were Clickbank why not take the commission yourself every now and again??
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I dont think they are actually taking peoples commisions just not being able to take peoples payments that want to purchase
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
I see the same problem for over a month now.
For the last year i have the same traffic and about 20 sales a month.
in the last month or so i have 4 sales a month, although traffic just goes up.
I thought it's the economy, but now I see the problem is in clickbank.
I don't like their service for a long time, but they have the best UI (at least it's the easiest for me)
I used to get their sh#t because of the UI, but now i think it's too much.
Is their any other affiliate broker with a similer UI?
I tried CJ but it's not as easy to find good products...
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That's the reason I took a break from promoting Clickank. I was getting frequent weekly sales, then for the last three months I haven't seen a single sale though the traffic has not died down. I had to just turn my attention to other things.
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same ere although at first i was getting normal sales etc. then it went very very quiet when clickbank changed a few things. then i went to other products. tested one and im still getting sales from that to this day. but i also think sometimes us affiliates are not getting the commissions we should be getting..
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EXACTLY my situation too. I even setup Prosper*202 and tracked incoming and outgoing IP addresses to my site. I also track the timestamp of the outgoing click (affiliate link) to the merchant thank you page's timestamp and it is all within 1 or 2 minutes. All from the same fuckin IP! Prosper*202 and Google Analytics both show conversions, yet CB shows jack shit.
So someone tell me how the fuck that person can click on my affiliate link, go to the merchant's page, then bounce, click on another affiliate's link, and buy the product all within 1 or 2 minutes?
I passed Clickbank the IP addresses of my confirmed purchases, and asked them to determine whether an affiliate ID is attached to any one of them. I haven't gotten a response yet. If I see the same affiliate ID on all of them, I'm gonna smoke that fucker. If I see no affiliate link, I'm going to the merchant and asking what the fuck. IP addresses, timestamps, and tracking pixels don't lie, so something doesn't add up.
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I am in the same boat as everyone else who has commented on the problem with Clickbank.
My sales has completely plummet yet my very targeted traffic has almost doubled.
I'm not sure if someone is cleverly stealing my sales or Clickbank is not properly registering the affiliate sales.
QUESTION:
Is there a more reliable alternative to Clickbank such as Paydotcom?
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After reading this thread I looked at my CB redirect page for a 5 day period from November 8-13th. This is my page that jumps right to the CB checkout. These were the stats:
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You tell me. 358 people clicked the buy button and not one of them converted?
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So how many hops did your Clickbank's states says you got?
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I am very concerned about the issue with Clickbank and our affiliate hoplinks.
I am going to set up brand new accounts with new hoplinks and see if this resolves the problem.
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I personally just look at the shaving that's going on as a tax I have to pay for not having a boss.
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you guys can't expect the same things to be hot in a poor economy. Niches change, people's interest change. People might not be as interested in ringtones, dog grooming etc when they are having a hard time paying the bills.
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re-evaluate your niche/item for sale and update it for what's going on ....
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LoL....yeah suddenly all of my 6 niches dry up along with all the other niches that others in this thread are promoting!!! Amazing coincidence would'nt you say????
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
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Originally Posted by tonlilah
you guys can't expect the same things to be hot in a poor economy. Niches change, people's interest change. People might not be as interested in ringtones, dog grooming etc when they are having a hard time paying the bills.
jmo
re-evaluate your niche/item for sale and update it for what's going on ....
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Well said... The people interest just keep changing...
The only way is to keep follow the latest trend...Product/Service.
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11-28-2008, 10:55 PM
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Re: Sudden drop of sales.
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you guys can't expect the same things to be hot in a poor economy. Niches change, people's interest change. People might not be as interested in ringtones, dog grooming etc when they are having a hard time paying the bills.
jmo
re-evaluate your niche/item for sale and update it for what's going on ....
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BS! My hops and traffic is MORE but sales are LESS.
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