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    Back in the day I used to play games like diablo 2 and lineage 1 (around 1995-2000). Anyone out there used to play?

    At first I played legit and I kicked ass since I played all the time. One day I was playing at an internet cafe and I was showing another dude some of my cool items. He said, "hey I'll give you $10 for that sword." I thought about it and decided to sell the item. Made $10 and for a 14 year old that was real money. I played more and more, always selling shit to other players at internet cafes. I even had suppliers who I was buying from and then mark up the item and sell for a profit. Made like 2k doing this. For a 14 year old I was a fucken badass since all my other friends were broke. I was like a crack dealer for game items.

    Then I decided to do the same in lineage. However, for lineage I started to sell my gold on ebay (back then ebay didn't care). Made a couple thousand more over the course of a couple years.

    Then everything went down from there. Ebay blocked virtual game items and many 3rd party gold selling websites showed up. These guys took item selling to new levels. Writing advanced bot programs, employing Chinese sweat shop labor to run the operation etc. The price of items dropped dramatically.

    So now the only way to make some decent money was to find a dupe hack or gold bug to get a crap load of items/gold and just sell all that shit as fast as possible. To say the least I don't sell game items anymore nor do I play mmorpgs anymore. But I still think back to those days.

    These days however, mmorpgs are mainstream in the US especially with 10 million+ wow players and god knows how many more playing the free-to-play games like runescape and maplestory. Even if only each player spends 10$ per year on game items that comes out to $100 million. I know some are spending nothing while others are spending alot more.

    Anyone out there making money in mmorpgs?

    Seems like these days the real money is in making/owning the actual mmorpgs because at the end of the day they're the ones who have the power to make unlimited items/gold and sell it for money.
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    Bots (autohealers, attackers etc.) can be lucrative because they need to be exclusive to remain undetectable. Warden and clones look for suspect footprints in processes but they will not find something they don't know the footprint of. Like a virus needs to be known to the scanner in order to be identified. The downside is you can't sell the bot to many clients for the above reason.

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    A friend does it the hard way. Playing all day. Good thing is he hires some kids to play for him.

    Rich kids and adults too, pays him (in his shop) to powerlevel their character for like $600 up per character.
    Cost him less than $300 to pay a bunch of kids to lvl a number of accounts.
    He says he seldom uses bots of fearing being banned from the game.

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    make a site or blog on MMORPG's like freemmogamer.com and put ads on it
    they way this site gets its visitors is thru youtube, game walkthrough's and Top 10 games..

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    Quote Originally Posted by geekkeeper View Post
    make a site or blog on MMORPG's like freemmogamer.com and put ads on it
    they way this site gets its visitors is thru youtube, game walkthrough's and Top 10 games..
    Yea you could do that but I was thinking more of in-game services, item selling etc.

    Bots (autohealers, attackers etc.) can be lucrative because they need to be exclusive to remain undetectable. Warden and clones look for suspect footprints in processes but they will not find something they don't know the footprint of. Like a virus needs to be known to the scanner in order to be identified. The downside is you can't sell the bot to many clients for the above reason.
    haha yup, I learned the hard way about those pesky anti-hack softwares. Nprotect especially.

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    Companies are a lot more aggressive now using dmca to shut sellers of the items down. If you are offshore in a place that does not care about dmca you can still promote it but it is much more competitive now.

    I did this at one point with a very popular online game and made a bunch of money at it but got ran over eventually by the offshore groups with their programmers & other cheap resources. Lots of others jumped in and it became a race to the bottom on prices then and wasn't worth my time anymore.

    If I would even consider it again, it'd really be better to get involved with a game community or clan where you can sell by word of mouth. You just can't promote freely like you used to.

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    I used to do a method dealing with Maplestory and bots. Made some good money but at that time I didn't know how to scale it cause it would have required maybe multiple VPS. I have a friend who does it now still and makes 300 a month, not much but scaled could be grand.

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    Anyone play ConquerOnline ?
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    Well just before I stopped playing a new 'industry' was emerging - contract killing of characters. In my game it was pretty easy to kill any high lvl player with 50 or so low levels attacking at the same time. It was a big issue because a death resulted in 10% loss of experience points, which meant you could also lose a level. There were many revengeful but otherwise powerless players. And it took a long time to ban a posse so they could execute 10, 20 contracts quickly before disabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solar2010 View Post
    Anyone play ConquerOnline ?
    Conquer online was a mad game about 4 years ago. Almost all of the teenagers here in our city is very addict to that game.

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    Runescape is an easy game to make money on , Just build some cash and armor etc and people will pay money for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killer2021 View Post
    Back in the day I used to play games like diablo 2 and lineage 1 (around 1995-2000). Anyone out there used to play?

    At first I played legit and I kicked ass since I played all the time. One day I was playing at an internet cafe and I was showing another dude some of my cool items. He said, "hey I'll give you $10 for that sword." I thought about it and decided to sell the item. Made $10 and for a 14 year old that was real money. I played more and more, always selling shit to other players at internet cafes. I even had suppliers who I was buying from and then mark up the item and sell for a profit. Made like 2k doing this. For a 14 year old I was a fucken badass since all my other friends were broke. I was like a crack dealer for game items.

    Then I decided to do the same in lineage. However, for lineage I started to sell my gold on ebay (back then ebay didn't care). Made a couple thousand more over the course of a couple years.

    Then everything went down from there. Ebay blocked virtual game items and many 3rd party gold selling websites showed up. These guys took item selling to new levels. Writing advanced bot programs, employing Chinese sweat shop labor to run the operation etc. The price of items dropped dramatically.

    So now the only way to make some decent money was to find a dupe hack or gold bug to get a crap load of items/gold and just sell all that shit as fast as possible. To say the least I don't sell game items anymore nor do I play mmorpgs anymore. But I still think back to those days.

    These days however, mmorpgs are mainstream in the US especially with 10 million+ wow players and god knows how many more playing the free-to-play games like runescape and maplestory. Even if only each player spends 10$ per year on game items that comes out to $100 million. I know some are spending nothing while others are spending alot more.

    Anyone out there making money in mmorpgs?

    Seems like these days the real money is in making/owning the actual mmorpgs because at the end of the day they're the ones who have the power to make unlimited items/gold and sell it for money.
    nowadays, level up services seem to be profitable if you outsource it

    wait for d3 to release and ill hook you up.

    back in the days if you played on US East you probably ran across me (xxxpasshackers)

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    I have a few "gold farming" accounts.. $0.80-$1.00 per million coins. Totally botted - but hell, it's been good money for me. Between 4 accounts I average about $15 a day selling to members of various forums. If one of the accounts happens to get banned, I just start up a new one.


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    Runescape is an easy game to make money on , Just build some cash and armor etc and people will pay money for it.

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    Some people seem to sell game accounts pretty regulary on ebay. Not sure how the rules of that work as they seem to sell the account with a free item.

    I did look into making money with entropia universe but that looked like slave labour if you are just starting out now hehe.

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    You can sell gold or cheats such as macro and stuff.

    PS: Oh yeah.. Runescape accounts sells well as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by alex_br07 View Post
    There are many ppl making thousand of dollars each month from private server like wow ,muonline and another mmorpg games.
    This one got caught out: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/...ver-operator/1

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    my brother makes 150-200 $$ daily from wow. I can join him but i wanted to do SEO but with no success =(((

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    I would say that the people making the most money in the MMORPG market (other than their creators, of course) would be the people selling cheats. As long as you can police it so that random players can't join your "cheat club", you have a good chance of it staying exclusive and undetected. The lower profile cheats you run (i.e., things that "assist" you, not things that are extremely obvious), the easier it is to maintain. A great example of a successful cheat system is the HIV Valve hacks. If you want to see the business model in action, check them out. It's not neccecarily a MMORPG, but it can be applied.

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    I've been highly interested in this for a-while, I've been wanting to find someone to JV with that has more experience with mmo botting/money making, to start botting on a massive level.
    I've heard some of the runescape gold sites pull in over $1000 a day.

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    Does anybody know where to hire people cheap to goldfarm for a flat rate? I am currently farming in a game and selling the gold all manually making $1600-$2000 per month but i want to outsource it. Also does anybody know how much i'd need to pay per hour?

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    I bot games and make around $1000 a month with it
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    One of the first ways I wound up making bank online was selling Runescape and Habbo Hotel eBooks on how to "get rich" in each game on eBay.

    I made a few hundred a week - which was a lot for how young I was back then. Then eventually eBay hardened up on it all and I was forced to find new things.

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    if you are good at programming then you can make bots , almost day by day new MMO come into existence and i believe in all games you can make real money.

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    Bots are probably the most profitable method... Will require you to be a experienced programmer of course, but they are usually low priced and monthly subscriptions with large userbase

    I know of a programmer that sells a monthly subscription for 5€ for a bot and he has over 30K costumers, so do the math, and thats monthly

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    Yes there's a lot of money to be made from cheats and bots , I used to sell legit gaming related virtual goods before but the profits are too low , I don't know programming to make a bot myself can anyone link me to some reliable sites where i can buy Bots?

    Thanks in advance

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    I also played Diablo 2 and looking foreward to Diablo 3(potential gold mine).
    Thing that bothers me is if they will make items in diablo 3 soulbind like in World of Warcraft(that means that items obtained by you cant be traded to anyone else besides your party),that could ruin the whole diablo *item selling concept* which d2 had.


    I play World of Warcraft and today 1000 gold is like 1.5euro or less 1.3e.What eniviD said boting on mass lvl is the way to go for the real money.
    When we go back at 2005-2007 1k gold in WoW was like 10+ euros and whoever had bots,mules and other gold exploits made really huge money.

    Also the gold sites buy cheap gold from us players and resell for higher.
    Today the most profitable in WoW would be powerleveling,honor grinding and getting the starter pvp set,Arena services and selling characters with special moutns,titules and achievements.There is also money from writing quality guides for games.

    Yesterday launched a new MMO called Rift,so maybe some of you should check it out,being first to offer a service is a plus always.

    Private WoW servers,WoW,Rift,Terra, and upcoming Star Wars MMO and Diablo 3 could be a good money income.

    I also heard that Blizzard is working on Marketplace service inside battlenet where people can sell their premium Starcraft 2 maps and mods.

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    interesting thread will subscribe to this. unfortunately in the money sense i never played any of these games lol so wonder how you can outsource not having any knowledge but nice ideas

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    Read quite a bit about people using bots in the MMO game EVE.

    There is some really advanced programs they use that can control fleets of ships.

    Seems to be lots of people mining away in game but also bots that run missions.

    Trouble with using this is eve is a skill based game so you would either have to be playing it already to get a character that can fly the ships or buy a character.

    Still it's interesting reading a program called roidripper seems popular.

    Actually transferring the assets from in game into real world does seem quite complicated and risky though.

    The phrase RMT EVE throws up quite a few interesting reads.

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    i've recently started Eve botting. at first glance it is a little bit hard to at least earn 5$ a day from 1 bot running 23/7. But i am making my way trough it. People's impression on Rift is not so good, i've watched the gameplay and it is the dupe of WOW =))) But people have already started to write bots =)))

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    thanks your share,I am interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by neu009 View Post
    interesting thread will subscribe to this. unfortunately in the money sense i never played any of these games lol so wonder how you can outsource not having any knowledge but nice ideas
    Like you outsource anything else you have no idea how to do... find someone who does. If we had to learn everything about our niche to compete in it, IM would be a pretty slow job. This is the sort of thing you hit up forums for usually rather than freelance sites.

    I don't know about the idea of botting things myself... I'd be interested in developing a bot, but not running one on my own system. The other end seems much more profitable in the long run.

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    back in the time when I was addicted to some MMO (2007) I was offered 800$ by a guy from Kuwait (they are full of petrol money and they rule on any MMO just by buying stuff) for 1 single drop that was like the rarest thing on the server but I denied, looking back now I LOL at it

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    I think bots can make good money but they must be scaled. The most profitable in MMORPG, in my opinion, is private servers. Some examples are WOW, RO and Maplestory.

    As long as you cover your tracks and don't reveal any real information as to who you are, you can move your players by changing the name of your private server. I know someone making 3k/mo with a private server. Any time they get a DMCA, they just buy a new VPS and direct their players to the new server.

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    hi there, good answers i must say, i don't know much about bots for now, haven't done yet, but i know programming and i love to learn, so if anyone know about bots or making money using my skills we can JV or in fact, if you are the kind of guy that know how the bussiness is moving on IM and don't know how to program, i can teach you and JV, pm me, please only serious people that want to make money online like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deen0229 View Post
    Does anybody know where to hire people cheap to goldfarm for a flat rate? I am currently farming in a game and selling the gold all manually making $1600-$2000 per month but i want to outsource it. Also does anybody know how much i'd need to pay per hour?
    Hi. I know this is an old post. But if you ever read this. I am willing to work for you. I have 34 PC for rent as my business here in our country and 10 of them are for MMORPG Piloting and some freelancing stuff.

    If you are still interested on hiring a pilot/ farmer. Just PM me.

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    i think the best way to make money off games is to create your own. you could always find people in low wage countries and pay them to level up characters that pay you.

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    This is an interesting vid on hacking them:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hABj_mrP-no

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    I've made money on a MMORPG indirectly by selling people my programs/bots that help them in-game, on another,it automatically fetches and buys items at low prices.

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