Hey Guys,

I just wanted to let you know how excited i am because i about to start at the Blackhat University.

I've finally found a school where i can come out and make some money.
I took an MSc in computing and commerce and dumped it along the way, because i got disinterested with not making any money and having any fun.

When i graduate with my black hat, i will let you know how i got on.

all the best brothers..and sisters..

Rudy

yea, at blackhatuniversity.com

ad at the top.

I did the Open University now i going to be doing Black Hat University!

yep, i am serious.

I want to learn from Black Hat World at the Black Hat University.

Having been on this forum for a while i feel the black hat in my bones.

But rather than hacking around trying to pick up pieces here and there, i want to go to the university when Diamond Dave and his experts can teach me in a more formal and structured way.

I want to learn how to build traffic and also some really good make money schemes. I'm not very disciplined and i think that is to do with not finishing my university education.

I want to learn from the guys at the very top and you can't say that the people who founded this forum would not be at the very top.

Well, i'm really looking forward to learning a lot.

best
Rudy

Yes, There was a redirection one day when they were having some DB problems. I clearly remember it because i was terrified that day because i tough BHW was closed forever

posted from the membership thread.... "I'm confused BH University & the other BH membership site...both sold here at BHW...& Diamond Dave is the owner here right....so why is he offering another site @97 month....doesn't make sense to me...why can't you all work together?"

It is a mentorship program. Think of it like a handholding program which will take you from "zero to hero".

OK I see so BHU is a mentoring 1 on 1 site @$97 a month, the other BH membership site @$50 is cheaper because its not so hands on?

I am hoping the Diamond Dave is going to teach people at a basic level and maybe about some the art of black hat. To be honest i cannot afford to pay $97 per month and i will have to make money fast in order to be able to keep paying to be in the University.

I will only ever pay money for help from BHW, cos they are the real experts. I don't believe all the other programmes are the real deal. BHW has given me so much for FREE and i feel they are geniune because they are not just trying to get something for nothing.

This is the coolest site on the web and i am very grateful to DD and all at BHW.

If anyone has any information on the programme or a good way to get some money together for it let me know. I'm off to try and scavenge some money to get into the programme. I cannot think of a better degree - than a BHW degree. Imagine putting that on your Resume?

Best,

Rudy

Originally Posted by rudyvise

I am hoping the Diamond Dave is going to teach people at a basic level and maybe about some the art of black hat. To be honest i cannot afford to pay $97 per month and i will have to make money fast in order to be able to keep paying to be in the University.

I will only ever pay money for help from BHW, cos they are the real experts. I don't believe all the other programmes are the real deal. BHW has given me so much for FREE and i feel they are geniune because they are not just trying to get something for nothing.

This is the coolest site on the web and i am very grateful to DD and all at BHW.

If anyone has any information on the programme let me know. I'm off to try and scavenge some money to get into the programme.

Best,

Rudy

Rudy you have all you need here on BHW to learn the basics of Black Hat marketing. I would recommend that you read this forum everyday until your eyes hurt. I have been at it now for aroound 6 months and let just say its worth the effort. BHU from what I understand so far is not for NOOBS. I joined because I want to take my business to the level.

Hey Dellzip, I have spent quite a lot of time in BHW and learnt so much about the black hat concepts, but i have been unable to really get my teeth into a project. I just keep going around in circles. I've bought adsense websites from Ebay, had a go at selling sex toys by uploading articles to torrents, downloaded every tool and video understand the sun. Even bought articles off folks on here to do with ewhoring and created articles for associated content.

But somehow i still can't get started making money.

Do you think BHU will give a very structured form of training that i can build on. Or will it be too advanced for me?

best

Rudy

Originally Posted by dellzip

Rudy you have all you need here on BHW to learn the basics of Black Hat marketing. I would recommend that you read this forum everyday until your eyes hurt. I have been at it now for aroound 6 months and let just say its worth the effort. BHU from what I understand so far is not for NOOBS. I joined because I want to take my business to the level.

What I believe is nothing is ever to advanced. Its all about bad you want it. I have the same issue with a lot of my project Im all over the place and It took a while for me to find a few niches to make some real money. If you have the desire and the will to learn I say go for it. I have had CS since the day it came out its a great product. And I know for a fact this will be also...... DD and Cory will make us a TON of cash

@ cosminautRU

blackhatuniversity from cory and dave and the membership wich nevarc, smitty and havoc are promoting are 2 really different things.

its confusing cause they are promoted and launching at about the same time, i can understand that...


the other membership is more about other tactics white and blackhat, including a lot of cpa as i understand.
i think they both are covering other things.

judging on the people running both memberships, i think both of them are real cool aditions to bhw. and i think both offer the same sort of support and help.
you just have to choose your flavor.
or check them both out for a month, and then decide wich you wanna continue with.

i have faith in both the sites, and i don`t think you can go wrong with either of them.

and for being to advanced, if you focus youself on 1 thing, you won`t believe how much you can learn 1 one week.
in that one week you can learn al the basics of the tactic that you`re going after. just put yourself down to that one thing and all wil be well.
don`t go around trying out the next big thing everybody is talking about. there`s always another big thing waiting aroundthe corner.you really can`t do all the tactics talked about here. just not posible.

Guys,

This is my thoughts.

Black Hat University is going to be big.

Why?

Question? Do you know what happens when the world crashes in a heap and people start throwing themselves out of windows? When the bad guys get tougher and the good guys get to go and sit in the corner?

Yes, thats right. Its time for the underground movement.
Only the toughest, most independent, most willful will survive.
And i intend to be one of them - with the help of BHU.

DutchRebel Thanks for the explanation & I think that its a good idea to join the 2...You are SO spot on about the focus on the one thing...reminds me of my favorite YES song "Going for the One". I have seen great success in my life when I apply that principle.

IS BHU open right now? (to learn & apply the tools & tips) as it will be a great start to learn things before the other BH site opens next month...

all im saying is that making money with these techniques, there is no celing to how much you will make and i most certainly woudn't charge my "friends" 97 dollars a month so they could join me. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...es/redface.gif

is the membership open yet? $97 for a month... if they have 100 members they will be earning $9700 a month just by maintaining the forum and make sure pple earn money... ha interesting isn"t it...

Yes richjerk85,

I understand that the guys at the top are some of the best black hats out there. Of course i don't know for sure, but to set up a forum like this - they must be pretty good.

Ok, people might say well you can set-up a forum but it doesn't mean you are the leanest, meanest, smartest, wealthiest black hat. But i guess i will give it a try and see if it is for me.

You see, i don't know any black hats who have made a lot of money and by the nature of their work, they can't really market themselves. And then you wouldn't necessarily believe them anyway. So i guess BHU is a good place to start. But i am always open to suggestions.

bye!
Rudy.

Still can't work out if you mentoring with this training or is it just forums, like is on BHW?

Rudy

I am going to be waiting on both forums. If they are successful, I will then join.

So far, I haven't heard much about either one, good or bad. Give it a little time and the answer will reveal itself.

They may or may not be worth their price. Who knows? Somebody will write a review soon.

Okydoky justthinking.

I hope there is some mentoring involved.

You know thats the thing that is missing in a lot of cases. Take me for example: I have a thinking disorder where i cannot concentrate very well and i have low confidence in my ability.

So i sit down and read ebooks an stuff and at the end i think: Well what do i do now and then a day or two later i have forgotten what i was reading so i go on to something else. Like a F* goldfish.

Now people might say that i am in the wrong business, but i am a successful business man in a different area (selling tech companies), so i know i must be fairly intelligent.

But with internet marketing you seem to need a lot of ability to focus on the right things, see them through and be disciplined in your thinking.

What i personally need is someone who can mentor me and can keep on top of what i am doing.

Is this the BHU - or can anyone suggest anything?

Thanks guys,

Rudy

Originally Posted by justthinking

I am going to be waiting on both forums. If they are successful, I will then join.

So far, I haven't heard much about either one, good or bad. Give it a little time and the answer will reveal itself.

They may or may not be worth their price. Who knows? Somebody will write a review soon.

Just like any other sale offer, l would need to see real video proof of success before l thought about it after they are blackhatters, also makes you think twice about revealing any bh methods in bhw for free if they are charging now.

can't get in now,just before i got some money in my paypal account.
i hope good news comes very soon

I think BHU has already been launched and closed its membership to their site two days, I would like to know if I should join when they open the membership doors again, so people who are already in BHU plz give us ur reviews and if u think its worth $97/month??

Is this guy serrious? people always make things way more important t than they are

Well i was just hoping because i haven't made much money on my own, so i was thinking that the top guys might be able to help me along abit.

Rudy

Originally Posted by hogatoga

Is this guy serrious? people always make things way more important t than they are

Originally Posted by Donalmartin

Yes it is closed and yes u should try and get in when it re-opens. It is a great site.

Are u registered with BHU Donalmartin?

I signed up as a member and I still don't find something that could generate me money, there's some good posts but I'll wait some days more to see what's going on there but I'm sure there're lot of people making good money there.

obviously this is a spoof cause you all take this so seriously

Why would it be a spoof? I believe that there are some people out there who have spent many years breaking their backs trying to find the formulas that are going to make them a sustainable and glorious income.

Their knowledge becomes invaluable to those who do not have these success formulas. So i think its a big thing that the top people at BHW are sharing this knowhow. Too right it shouldn't be free.

At the moment i cannot pay my way in to the university, but i am hoping in time that i will have the money. Then i am going to learn like never before and be thankful for the knowledge. Because i know this knowledge comes at a cost to the bearer and i know it will help support my family.

So no spoof, just what i feel in my black hat heart.

Originally Posted by hogatoga

obviously this is a spoof cause you all take this so seriously

Originally Posted by pankun

I signed up as a member and I still don't find something that could generate me money, there's some good posts but I'll wait some days more to see what's going on there but I'm sure there're lot of people making good money there.

Sorry to hear that. Im surprised that there is a person honest enough to state that on this board

pankun, can't you mention this to Diamond Dave? I'm sure there is something for everyone in BH University. I don't know i haven't got in yet. But it seems that with the right support this should be an incredible resource. It is a brilliant idea and i am going to be studying black hat programming outside so when i get in i have a much idea of what the hell they are talking about.


Rudy

Originally Posted by pankun

I signed up as a member and I still don't find something that could generate me money, there's some good posts but I'll wait some days more to see what's going on there but I'm sure there're lot of people making good money there.

i have heard that you can get all the information you need (if your not comp noob, that is) at php.net i have been learning a lot of stuff on there but moreover i seem to have come up w/ more questions than answers

Maybe they need a foundation course or something before you get in.

Point is i don't want to go to university for 3 years and not make any money. Whats the point, just so you get a crispy piece of paper and a funny hat and cape...

No, black hat univ should be different.. I wanna make some green stuff before getting my BHU degree.

Rudy

Originally Posted by fatjack'sblackhat

i have heard that you can get all the information you need (if your not comp noob, that is) at php.net i have been learning a lot of stuff on there but moreover i seem to have come up w/ more questions than answers

ROFLMAO
I just cant stop laughing when kids around come and tell me
I am hacker and I will do hacking and I know blackhat stuff.

but for f**K sake first tell me what is blackhat stuff?
U dont need a degree to do blackhat stuff you really want to dive into the world
then please stop being a kid and get yourself a book on how to program in java, i recommend How to Program in java its a huge book around 2000 pages, learn it, take your time and then do other stuff..

you just have to be creative to come up with an idea, no person can teach you blackhat stuff, its all about ideas and executing it, anyone can build a blog but the guy who builds it and then brings in 100-200 USD a day is someone different.

My point is if you wanna really learn some hardcore stuff,

Learn Java
Install Linux "Debian a good distro" learn some shell.
learn TCP/IP -"tons of torrents online just search CCNA" that cisco course will teach u inside out.

and then come here and yell out loud.

I KNOW something, bcoz other than that everything u do is joke.
I went to university and did comp engineering 4 yrs and i still think i donno anything...

I've been in computers since the very first pc ernesthemingway.
I installed Netware systems, Cisco and Unix and all that stuff.
I ran games companies and made a lot of money in my own web CMS company.
I write books about Matrix Hackers and all that stuff. www.intrench.com

But i am just a dreamer really. I romance over what Black Hats do because i don't have the concentration to do it myself. But i have always been the friend of the hacker, even though i have not been accepted.

But this year i want to stop being everyones friend and helper and so i was planning on undertaking a VB.Net black hat programming course with Headspin.

One day i will be the real deal. You are right ernesthemingway.
I have been a joke.

Rudy

Originally Posted by ernesthemingway

ROFLMAO
I just cant stop laughing when kids around come and tell me
I am hacker and I will do hacking and I know blackhat stuff.

but for f**K sake first tell me what is blackhat stuff?
U dont need a degree to do blackhat stuff you really want to dive into the world
then please stop being a kid and get yourself a book on how to program in java, i recommend How to Program in java its a huge book around 2000 pages, learn it, take your time and then do other stuff..

you just have to be creative to come up with an idea, no person can teach you blackhat stuff, its all about ideas and executing it, anyone can build a blog but the guy who builds it and then brings in 100-200 USD a day is someone different.

My point is if you wanna really learn some hardcore stuff,

Learn Java
Install Linux "Debian a good distro" learn some shell.
learn TCP/IP -"tons of torrents online just search CCNA" that cisco course will teach u inside out.

and then come here and yell out loud.

I KNOW something, bcoz other than that everything u do is joke.
I went to university and did comp engineering 4 yrs and i still think i donno anything...

Well, after a few days I can say that there's lots of good quality posts, in the last days it's been a lot of movement at BHU and a lot of content is available. Don't expect to find a step by step guide on how to upload a site via FTP, but there's a lot of ideas and methods to try, and other members are kind enough to share what they've done.

Is the membership $97 worth?. Yes, it is, maybe it could be sold at a higher price.

Originally Posted by rudyvise

I've been in computers since the very first pc ernesthemingway.
I installed Netware systems, Cisco and Unix and all that stuff.
I ran games companies and made a lot of money in my own web CMS company.
I write books about Matrix Hackers and all that stuff. www.intrench.com

But i am just a dreamer really. I romance over what Black Hats do because i don't have the concentration to do it myself. But i have always been the friend of the hacker, even though i have not been accepted.

But this year i want to stop being everyones friend and helper and so i was planning on undertaking a VB.Net black hat programming course with Headspin.

One day i will be the real deal. You are right ernesthemingway.
I have been a joke.

Rudy

Ur not a joke Rudy
all I am saying blackhat is not all about programming and hardcore technical stuff, i look at online marketing differently, its all about coming up with different ideas that work. Which is not easy.

but gl..

are the doors still open can people still get in?

I know its all about money making ideas that work and i must say i am pretty unimaginative there. I think my imagination got tired along the way.

Of perhaps i was never good with money.

The only thing i would say ernesthemingway is the real good thing about learning to program black hat is that it enables you to reduce the costs of BH and also optimize the work you do.

I like the idea of capturing some good BH processes and replaying them back. Maybe only making a small amount of consistent money. I am not that versatile where i can have hundreds of money spinning ideas - so i'd sooner find a few good ones and automate them.

Rudy

Originally Posted by ernesthemingway

Ur not a joke Rudy
all I am saying blackhat is not all about programming and hardcore technical stuff, i look at online marketing differently, its all about coming up with different ideas that work. Which is not easy.

but gl..

The website mentions there will be software/scripts available on the bhu website, can anybody who's signed up to it shed a little light on what this is?

A degree course on BH .... That would be cool!

Programming itself won't make you a "hacker" or to be able to blackhat. Most people on here do fine and can't even program.

However, being able to reverse engineer a server so you can find a buffer/stack overflow to dump data is something most "hackers" can't do and wish they could, whilst most programmers would easily be able to find a way ...

My thoughts?

Learn VB/vb.net. spend 6 months soaking up every bit of code, building systems, even try and contribute to some OS projects.

Once you're comfortable, move onto JAVA. get used to OO languages, librarys etc. this takes about a year. Try and build everything you think of, and if you can't, you need to carry on learning java.

Once you know java inside out. Learn C. not C++, just C. this will be easier since you know alot of java & vb. Its just diffferent syntax etc. But since its cross platform and has direct hardware access, its more powerful than java.

Once you've spend a year or 2 programming with C, you need to learn ASM. This will take about 3 years,no joke. Understanding this thoroughly you will need a really high level, indepth understanding of operating systems and their management processes, and how everything works together.

However, once you can happily understand ASM and convert beetween C & ASM & Back, you can do anything.

You can go, dis-assemble your favourite application, crack it, find exploits, utilize them, anything.

I understand basic ASM & can do the rest. I have a very in depth knowledge of operating systems and ALOT of the math behind every. I still struggle. I can crack basic applications, but nothing serious.

Theres the next few yeears of your learning sorted. Go have fun with it.

PS - Learning to reverse engineer anything from ASM will make you VERY VERY rich, VERY VERY quickly. Its highly illegal, and people will pay through the nose for some secrets competitors software uses.

I know someone who charged extortionate ammounts ($8) per line of code. Most of his work was 2,000-3,000 lines. he would do each one in a week ...

Jammie, If you can create a programming course that makes people money, then you made it. People say that it takes 5 years to get to here or here.

People don't have that long. With a focused course, people want to be doing Black Hat of every kind within months.

So the approach must be to cut out the irrelevant stuff and draw up a fast track course that covers only what is required.

Now there is a problem for an ace programmer to solve.

Suggest
Step 1: Design poster apps
Step 2: Design back end code - proxy checkers
Step 3: Auto Site Builders
Step 4: Design cooking stuffers
Step 5: sniffers and other protocol analysis / (http:/adsense/adwords api etc)
Step 6: code crackers

That sort of thing. Can you and headspin get together on this maybe?

This looks like VB.Net with maybe a little C, followed by a short course in ASM and debuggers - maybe o.l.ydlb
Rudy

Originally Posted by jammie

Programming itself won't make you a "hacker" or to be able to blackhat. Most people on here do fine and can't even program.

However, being able to reverse engineer a server so you can find a buffer/stack overflow to dump data is something most "hackers" can't do and wish they could, whilst most programmers would easily be able to find a way ...

My thoughts?

Learn VB/vb.net. spend 6 months soaking up every bit of code, building systems, even try and contribute to some OS projects.

Once you're comfortable, move onto JAVA. get used to OO languages, librarys etc. this takes about a year. Try and build everything you think of, and if you can't, you need to carry on learning java.

Once you know java inside out. Learn C. not C++, just C. this will be easier since you know alot of java & vb. Its just diffferent syntax etc. But since its cross platform and has direct hardware access, its more powerful than java.

Once you've spend a year or 2 programming with C, you need to learn ASM. This will take about 3 years,no joke. Understanding this thoroughly you will need a really high level, indepth understanding of operating systems and their management processes, and how everything works together.

However, once you can happily understand ASM and convert beetween C & ASM & Back, you can do anything.

You can go, dis-assemble your favourite application, crack it, find exploits, utilize them, anything.

I understand basic ASM & can do the rest. I have a very in depth knowledge of operating systems and ALOT of the math behind every. I still struggle. I can crack basic applications, but nothing serious.

Theres the next few yeears of your learning sorted. Go have fun with it.

PS - Learning to reverse engineer anything from ASM will make you VERY VERY rich, VERY VERY quickly. Its highly illegal, and people will pay through the nose for some secrets competitors software uses.

I know someone who charged extortionate ammounts ($8) per line of code. Most of his work was 2,000-3,000 lines. he would do each one in a week ...

I just went over and registered at their forums but cant see a damn thing on it.... its all non viewable for me and i aint reveived a comfirmation email either :S

that sucks was wondering what all the fuss was about and now looks like i will never be able to see

Afraid you are too late for the first intake. I understand that Diamond Dave is going to reopen for the next intake at some point.

Not sure when.

PM Diamond Dave maybe.

Rudy

Originally Posted by lewi

I just went over and registered at their forums but cant see a damn thing on it.... its all non viewable for me and i aint reveived a comfirmation email either :S

that sucks was wondering what all the fuss was about and now looks like i will never be able to see