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  1. 06-20-2008, 05:49 PM #1
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    Default === Guaranteed Money Making Guide - 100% workable, you can slap if you it doesn't :) ===

    Guranteed Money Making Guide - 100% workable


    Hey guys, here's my first guide on BHW. Being in the info marketing business, I've come into contact with hundreds of different methods to making money online. Some WhiteHat (which I teach and sell), and some BlackHat.... Which honestly would hurt my reputation if I taught or sold them to my list. So here's where you guys stand to benefit. Hehe.

    Ok so here's the basic mindset for this method. I've come to a conclusion that "pirates" however cheap as they come, are unable to get over one big manly flaw, SEX. And my tests have proven, that pirates PAY on a higher consistency than the average online porn surfer. This translates into much higher conversion rates, with a much larger somewhat untapped market.

    Here's basically what I did:

    Step 1:
    Get (or ahem purchase) dating guides (ebooks/videos/seminars) online. It's best to get guides that concentrate on "getting sex/dates online via dating sites". Scrape them and summarize them into an ebook less than 5 pages long. Too long of an ebook will decrease conversion rates.

    Step 2:
    Reword the ebook mentioning the dating sites that seem to work best for your methods. Add in 2 of your recommended dating sites' affiliate URL in the beginning and end of the ebook (more about which dating site to choose at the bottom of this guide).

    Step 3 (Crucial):
    Simply submitting the ebooks with titles like "How to get sex online" or "How to find horny women online" is going to get you banned. Torrent/P2P sites hates free stuff, and I'm sure the few of you who have tried this would know best. So to combat this, you want to change your title and description to something like this... "$3997 Underground Online Dating Guide - Only sold to 10 people" or any variation to this. Basically you want everyone to know that the ebook WASN'T FREE, and it costs a bomb to get such an exclusive guide. Remember to make up a guru name like "Mr. Playboy".

    Step 4:
    Start submitting the ebook to top torrent sites, p2p like limewire, rapidshare/megashare forums (this works very well) and finally private torrent sites (if you have access to them).

    Step 5:
    Change or rearrange a few sentences or paragraphs in your ebook, then change the title to something different. The basic content and affiliate link remains the same. Repeat Step 4.

    Step 6:
    Repeat Step 5 and 4 every few days.

    Step 7:
    Watch your affiliate stats grow exponentially.

    Now I've tried a great number of adult dating sites, so here are two of my best performing STATS and results:

    Disclaimer: These are my stats from various testing which I don't track. So you should be able to get even higher conversion rates which turns to higher per signup $$$:

    #1 - Iwantu
    7 uniques per FREE signup ($7.10 per free signup)
    71 uniques per PAID signup ($50 *35/week* to $100 *279/week* per paid signup)
    By far my best performing dating site, choose the Pay per Profile for starters and once you see more and more traffic, start using the Pay per Signup campaign instead.

    #2 - AdultFriendFinder
    5 uniques per FREE signup ($0.35 per click)
    55 uniques per PAID signup ($100 per paid signup)
    My 2nd best performing affiliate site, only Pay Per Order is worth using.

    Now although AFF converts at a higher percentage than IWantU, the amount of traffic I get on IWantU is substantially higher, even when I placed the IWantU affiliate link AFTER AFF on my ebooks. I would assume that most downloaders of my ebooks already have a current account with AFF. Ultimately IWantU has much higher profits. Don't bother trying Rev/Percentage sharing, they have consistently only got me 1/4 to 1/3 the profits of per signups. Not worth it.

    This guide is pretty staight forward as you can see. Try to use a valid proxy while submitting your ebooks. I don't want to gloat about how much I've earned from using this method, but let me assure you that you shouldn't have any problems seeing 4 digits per day once you get the hang of this.

    I've now moved on to other methods, but being a human being, still appreciates a thanks now and then and the ever so obvious webmaster referrals commissions.

    If there are any questions or comments, just post here (the PM system doesn't really work on Firefox for me).

    Cheers!
    Last edited by The Lazy Pig; 06-20-2008 at 06:02 PM. Reason: Added: Rev/Percentage comment.
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    Default Re: === Guaranteed Money Making Guide - 100% workable, you can slap if you it doesn't :) =

    Alright, don't have time to read all.. But what I have read so far is pretty good. Thanks for the info.

    Much appreciated.
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    sounds like something worth trying thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by procrastinator View Post
    Alright, don't have time to read all..
    lol .. what an apt forum id
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    def going to try this out. good info.
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    nice

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    I gave you thanks and wanted to say thank you personally as well. I never knew how to stop getting banned by the P2P and torrent people...

    boomboomer... that's hilarious!
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    Thanks button no working, hahaha.

    Glad you guys liked this.
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    thanks man, im a lazy pig myself!!
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    How do you upload to Torrent/P2P sites?

    Also, is there a list?
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    Great idea!.. I think it also can work for others niche..
    Thanks..
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    your blackhat tactic is awesome, how about your whithat, make some contribution?
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    Thanks for the share with the community!
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    This is a good share but you may want to consider removing your 2 affiliate links and just put the vendor's url. I have not gone through the rules of BHW but I think it is against the rule of posting affiliate link. Correct me if I am wrong.
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    Great share.
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    Lazy Pig Lazy Way To Riches?
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    Great share, but be warned... You are going to hear Holy Hell when a mod sees your affiliate links posted. It's against our TOS.

    Go back and edit the links to the simple urls and you will have a great post.
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    Oh, I didn't know it was against the TOS. I can't seem to find the edit button around my post, weird... Can a mod help me change the link to a non affiliate link or "activate" edit button, was working previously (perhaps I edited once too often).

    kayzne - The biggest one right now is mininova, so do a search on Alexa or even on Google for the top torrent sites and I'm sure you'll find plenty.

    annua - Whitehat eh, too many to list, ask and you shall receive.

    barsha - Nope, never heard of it either, weird...

    Once again, my apologies, didn't know having an affiliate link was against the TOS. My bad.
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    Yes i can help you with that....there thats better
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    Thank you very much

    You said you moved on to other methods, is it because this one was starting to be less effective ?
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    Thanks havokb8

    Nope Akoula, this one was working just fine when I left it few months ago. The experiment was simply a method to earn money, so it's definitely not something you want to quit your job to do. I guess what I'm saying is I try to concentrate more on "business" operations rather than "get rich quick" methods.

    Also, the last time I checked, I was the only one doing this, so you guys should have little or no competition... ahem... yet.
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    Thanks for sharing this Lazy Pig.

    Just one question.
    How many of these ebooks did you produce and sent into the world, i am interested in this because i see other niches/sites like webcams where you can pull this stunt to.

    Write a ebook on how to get a black/white/redhead girl out of there clothes in the free chat room or something
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    this is the same as the ebooks on how to scam the casinos.
    did that, but that didn`t work out well, where to many poeple doing that allready.

    never thought about this twist. give it a shot again,

    the beauty is, these books can keep getting commision months after you release them.

    great post, thnx
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    Default Re: === Guaranteed Money Making Guide - 100% workable, you can slap if you it doesn't :) =

    I saw this idea five months ago, and people said it was profitable then too. I searched all the online torrent sites for "online dating," "dating guides," and other variations, and found no search volume, so I didn't do it.

    Funny, I'm still not finding any search volume. In my experience, zero demand is supposed to equal zero supply.

    If someone does it and has success let me know, and perhaps I'll waste a few hours on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davers View Post
    I saw this idea five months ago, and people said it was profitable then too. I searched all the online torrent sites for "online dating," "dating guides," and other variations, and found no search volume, so I didn't do it.

    Funny, I'm still not finding any search volume. In my experience, zero demand is supposed to equal zero supply.

    If someone does it and has success let me know, and perhaps I'll waste a few hours on it.
    I think you'll find the OP was "letting you know"!

    May be if someone else lets you know, you can get someone else just to let you know again, in case it stopped working?!

    Just have a bloody go you lazy bastard.

    Saying hat though i'm too lazy myself, so pot-kettle-black etc., etc.
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    Been trying at this all day. No luck... Just a few clicks.. Any suggestions?
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    So this method doesn't work? Makes sense to move on to other things. 4 digits a day is not enough to quit your day job? Ya, if I was Bill Gates.
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    thanks for the guide
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    The first time I tried this, without mentioning the cost of the ebook (newbie move), I earned about $600+ in total on both dating sites. I sent about 3 variations of these suckers out, and although successful, got me banned from almost all the torrent sites pretty quickly. Although to note, that I'm still seeing traffic from these 3 ebooks today.

    Thought about it, changed my titles to "paid", used new proxies, posted them about once per 2 days, saw profits come in like crazy.

    fuzion1, I don't understand why its not working for you, perhaps your title for your ebook isn't attractive enough? Or maybe you just gotta be patient. Make sure you don't put too much content on your ebook and keep emphasizing on signing up to the dating sites.

    This method works. I honestly don't see how it won't judging from my experience. There shouldn't be any problems getting at least 200 downloads on mininova itself, not to mention the viral effect.
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    Hey Lazy Pig,

    One of my e-books has been downloaded like crazy! But i guess my content in it is just not good enough. People are not clicking on it, or they have seen this too many times. Could you send me a sample of your e-book? Seriously, one of my e-books has gone viral overnight.... But im just not getting why they are not signing up.
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    Check out the attachment. These were the ebooks that got me banned from the torrent sites. The ones with just 2 pages worked best for me. Going back to my stats for the ebooks I got banned for, I earned a total of $867.33.

    I'm not going provide the "improved" versions, and the reason is obvious. Too many copying my final version will send this method to the stinkers. So just read what I wrote in the first post and edit as stated.

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    Gracious,

    I guess mine are 1. too long. 2. don't include aff link but once. I shall revise and submit and let you guys know.
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    I did this a year ago with 2 penis enlargement ebooks and made about $250 with 2 torrent posts
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    What more can I say than cheers mate!

    Only bloody worked!

    Made a crappy e-book, uploaded it at 3am went to bed woke up and found this:
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    congrats

    you guys could upload this with some porn movies
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    Quote Originally Posted by mentalist View Post
    What more can I say than cheers mate!

    Only bloody worked!

    Made a crappy e-book, uploaded it at 3am went to bed woke up and found this:
    Puts a big fat grin on your face doesn't it?
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    holy crap! I think this might actually work.
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    Thanks - Giving it a try
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    Just had a quick go at putting one together, uploading it to a few places now
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    Hmmm... for some reason I got banned from MiniNova. It's no biggie when I was doing PPI but for an e-book it seems crazy. Not sure why I was banned but I'm still unbanned on other torrent sites. Any idea why I've been banned for this gray hat method?
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    lol some of you people are uploading the ebooks that the OT said got him banned
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    And thus the reason not to share them in the first place.
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    i will give this a go too! thanks a lot!
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    I'm giving this a go. Uploading to a bunch of places before I goto sleep.

    Lets see wassup with this here.
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    Very Nice, think Im going to give this a try.
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    Heh not doing so good so far.

    Getting downloads... no converts yet.

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